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"Scientology gives refunds: spokesperson"

Discussion in 'Senator Xenophon And Scientology' started by Belladonna, Nov 18, 2009.

  1. Belladonna Member

    "Scientology gives refunds: spokesperson"

    Please merge this if I am re-posting the written version of a video that has been posted.

    Scientology gives refunds: spokesperson - Yahoo!7 Sunrise

    7 Sunrise
    Scientology gives refunds: spokesperson


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  2. Re: "Scientology gives refunds: spokesperson"

    Yep! Totally a religion there: Satisfaction or your money back!*


    *not really
  3. Re: "Scientology gives refunds: spokesperson"

    Good luck with that.
  4. Asshole Member

    Re: "Scientology gives refunds: spokesperson"

    Religion!
    Now 30% less money!*











    * in your pocket
  5. Sponge Member

    Re: "Scientology gives refunds: spokesperson"

    Direct link to the video of the 7 Sunrise morning show....
    Yahoo!7 Sunrise - Video
    (the donation subject comes in at around 4m35s)
  6. Belladonna Member

  7. Asshole Member

    Re: "Scientology gives refunds: spokesperson"

    This isn't ESMB.
    While I'm at it I'd also like to inform you this isn't a celeb gossip site either.
  8. Belladonna Member

    Re: "Scientology gives refunds: spokesperson"

    Oh thanks. Before you straightened me out I was lost and confused. I will defer to your definitions from here on out. XD
  9. Re: "Scientology gives refunds: spokesperson"

    We need to educate reporters to add onto the end of this line of questioning: Are there any conditions to the refund?
  10. FreakE420 Member

    Re: "Scientology gives refunds: spokesperson"

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  11. WTF Member

    Re: "Scientology gives refunds: spokesperson"

    Usually "may not be trained or processed ever again"...also will want a paranoid and "full of holes" quit claim signed. Paranoid OSA is paranoid.
  12. _You_ Member

    Re: "Scientology gives refunds: spokesperson"

    costamparefundrelease20w.jpg

    Research re Scientology Contracts, Church of Scientology

    scroll down to the section Church of Scientology, Members, Leaving/Refunding for more waivers
  13. Etain Member

    Re: "Scientology gives refunds: spokesperson"

    That's funny, I've yet to hear of the Catholic Church refunding donations to former followers.

    Oh, yeah. They really sound more like a religion now. :rolleyes:
  14. _You_ Member

    Re: "Scientology gives refunds: spokesperson"

    In the catholic church, you dont actually get anything back for the donations... one could certainly argue that is the case in scientology as well.
  15. _You_ Member

    Re: "Scientology gives refunds: spokesperson"

    Pardon supreme ignoramasssess, but that waiver, is that legally binding in any way? If you were able to prove your mesothelioma from the asbestoswinds, or some past injury incurred while on Sci property, or etc., would that release be valid? What if you signed it stoned off your head?
  16. Ann O'Nymous Member

    Re: "Scientology gives refunds: spokesperson"

    My 2 cents (nothing new, just trying to summarize):
    - The financial relationships in scientology are of different kinds:
    -- "fixed donations" is the money given for "services"; it is the legal invention made to make them deductible in the USA, AFAIK.
    -- donations is the money given with no counterpart; might be considered as similar to corresponding activity in any other organizations (the pressure might be higher here).

    Are the non "fixed donations" also included in the refunds ?
  17. Nine Toes Member

    Re: "Scientology gives refunds: spokesperson"

    I wish Scientology gave away refunds like Dr. Tran gives away hot dickings.
  18. determu Member

    Re: "Scientology gives refunds: spokesperson"

    any more of these release and waiver forms? it would be great for the BOS

    and leave belladonna alone, she's nothing but a sexy news hound.
  19. Asshole Member

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    I demand pics to back up these claims.
  20. _You_ Member

    Re: "Scientology gives refunds: spokesperson"

    [IMG]
  21. whoever Member

    Re: "Scientology gives refunds: spokesperson"

    Well, it explicitly states that you are not stoned out of your head when signing. So I don't now how successfully you could later claim that you were.

    It also says you waive damages for claims for injuries "whether known or unknown," so that would probably make it pretty hard to collect for past injuries. But IANAL and maybe there would be ways to get around that.
  22. Asshole Member

    Re: "Scientology gives refunds: spokesperson"

    C'mon now. That could be anybody.
  23. ArnieLerma Member

    Re: "Scientology gives refunds: spokesperson"

    I tried to get $100 I left 'on account' at AOLA.. they even mailed me statements... when I demanded the 100$, they Lied and said it was a computer error..

    Scientology LIES
  24. Ann O'Nymous Member

    Re: "Scientology gives refunds: spokesperson"

    In Switzerland, there are contracts that are illegal even if people sign them willingly (e.g. getting rid of fundamental rights). Might be different elsewhere.
  25. anonym0us Member

    Re: "Scientology gives refunds: spokesperson"

    FIFY
  26. RightOn Member

    Re: "Scientology gives refunds: spokesperson"

    lol! Freak, always a pleasure!

    Refunds eh?
    yeah, every "religion" offers refunds for their "salvation".
  27. anon111265 Member

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    but if you were so stoned off your face that you couldnt read that, and just wanted to make the purple tiger-men stop growling at you, you would sign anything.
  28. Asshole Member

    Re: "Scientology gives refunds: spokesperson"

    I'm pretty stoned right now.
  29. Frozen Thetan Member

    Re: "Scientology gives refunds: spokesperson"

    2 years ago I got $4,000 returned and a set of new tech vols from the CofS*.

    (*not OSA OSA OSA)

    You've just gotta use the right words.

    Which, very often, makes the poisonous, Hubbard controlled swarm come out from where it's hiding.

    It's magic. Black magic.
  30. LarryBren Member

    Re: "Scientology gives refunds: spokesperson"

    Perhaps someone down there might like to share with Channel 7 or anyone else concerned a writing I did back in April 2007 about organized scientology and their "refund" policy. This gives the true story behind their refund policy that they try to enforce unless forced to do otherwise by legal or PR threat:

    scientology false advertising regarding refunds - time for Class Action - alt.religion.scientology | Google Groups
  31. RightOn Member

    Re: "Scientology gives refunds: spokesperson"

    The fact that they have always "offer refunds" should be a big red flag to the IRS.
    That doesn't show that they are a business?

    I wonder how COS handles refunds? (tax wise)
    Is that yet another right off for them?
    If so, that is pretty fucking ridiculous
  32. Zak McKracken Member

  33. Sponge Member

    Re: "Scientology gives refunds: spokesperson"

    ^This. Fo sure.

    (It could also be extended to scientology's routing out disclaimers where they again attempt to have the victim sign away all their constitutional rights).

    Labour the point that it still takes a lot of uphill effort to even get to the point where scientology has agreed to give a refund and that many may sign these disclaimers out of sheer frustration and financial desperation rather than being in agreement with them (i.e. under pressure and duress), not knowing that they can still get their money back through legal remedy by threat of court action.
  34. _You_ Member

  35. _You_ Member

    Re: "Scientology gives refunds: spokesperson"

    They don't pay taxes to the IRS so they don't need any write-offs.
  36. _You_ Member

    Re: "Scientology gives refunds: spokesperson"

    fify
  37. RightOn Member

    Re: "Scientology gives refunds: spokesperson"

    yeah I know...

    Do they have to report what they take in to the IRS yearly? (although lies of course)
    Or only when they are asked?
  38. moose Member

    Re: "Scientology gives refunds: spokesperson"

    contact these guys: Scientology PayBack Org
    They'll send you the papers and help out with demanding your money back
  39. Re: "Scientology gives refunds: spokesperson"

    Bobdobbs.png
    "Salvation, or TRIPLE your money back!"
  40. RightOn Member

    Re: "Scientology gives refunds: spokesperson"

    lol!

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