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  1. The Wrong Guy Member

    IAS Event 2016 protest at Scientology's UK HQ, Saint Hill



    pedrofcuk, October 10, 2016

    Protesting the International Association of Scientologists 32nd Anniversary Event at Saint Hill Manor, East Grinstead, West Sussex - the "Church" of Scientology's head office in the UK.
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  2. DeathHamster Member

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  3. Daphne Miltenburg in Heathfield, East Sussex.September 2015 · ·



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    • It is reassuring to know that the Deputy Executive Director of Narconon Uk was formally a teaching assistant (not a teacher) and a Waitress...........
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  4. The Wrong Guy Member

    Sorry I can't mention who said this today or where:

    Today I spoke with a gentleman ... He rented out his second home. However the debt he was left in due to the renter not paying rent and the cost to try and recuperate the 1,000s of pounds lost left him in debt and unable to pay his mortgage.

    It turned out that the renter was Vicky Boyce, the ED of the church of Scientology in Plymouth. The house was rented and used by members of the local org. The owner was so disillusioned he has put the house up for sale to cover the debt left.

    The most ethical group on the planet.
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  5. sceptical Member

    1. Cross Posted from Narconon thread
    2. Revealed: How thousands of London children are exposed to Scientology group in schools | London Evening Standard

      Tens of thousands of schoolchildren have been exposed to a Scientology organisation through drugs education presentations, the Standard has learned.

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      An investigation found increasing numbers of pupils, some as young as 10, at primary and secondary schools have sat through lectures inspired by Scientology and its leader L Ron Hubbard.

      In the past year alone 35,000 children have taken part in the Narconon anti-drugs programme, including more than 16,000 in London.

      Recently it emerged two schools in Camden hosted Narconon talks.

      Narconon, which does not employ doctors, is funded and run by the Church of Scientology.

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      Professor David Nutt, who chaired the government’s Advisory Council on the Misuse of Drugs until 2009, said: “We have known for years that Scientologists have been targeting schools through drugs education packages. They are the main provider of teaching aids to schools, as neither government nor local authorities put any money into this topic. It’s an outrage.”

      Professor David Touretzky of Carnegie Mellon University in Pittsburgh, who has written extensively about Scientology and Narconon, said the organisation targets pupils “any chance they get”.

      He called Narconon “a money-making scam and a source of potential new Scientologists” adding: “The first step is to get people to see L Ron Hubbard as a benevolent authority figure instead of a sociopathic cult leader. The drug education programme is just about taking that first step.”

      Many schools are seemingly oblivious to the link between Narconon’s programme and Scientology.

      More here: http://www.standard.co.uk/news/educ...to-scientology-group-in-schools-a3433041.html
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  6. DeathHamster Member

    How many stories before the schools wise up or someone does something at the national level?

    Anti-drugs charity linked to Scientology gives talks to thousands of children in Cornwall April 4, 2013, Miles Davis, This is Cornwall

    Charity with Scientology links gives anti-drugs talk in Camden schools November 10, 2016, Ella Jessel, Camden New Journal

    Group linked to Scientology visit Newington Green school August 2, 2012, Jon Dean, London24

    Parent's horror as 'Scientologist' group Narconon teaches London primary school children about drugs August 2, 2012, Michael Howie, Evening Standard

    I could probably dig lots more out without trying too hard.
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  9. The Wrong Guy Member

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    I found these online. The text accompanying them says:

    "Scientology Ltd" - was registered in the UK 2 months ago. The company number in the Articles of Incorporation is 10458711 and the Proposed Registered Office Address is 32-33 Cartwright Gardens, London, WC1H 9EH. Director/Officer is registered as Stefano Rossini.

    Only paperwork they've filed is their Articles of Incorporation with no mention of what the business will do or their connection to other UK entities like COSRECI.
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  10. The Wrong Guy Member

    Scientology's UK HQ angers residents by felling trees in conservation area | The Guardian

    People in St Hill Green, West Sussex brand church ‘selfish and arrogant’ after 22 trees were cut down, but spokesman says more trees have been planted

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    The church of Scientology has angered neighbours at its UK headquarters by expanding its facilities without planning consent and felling trees in a designated area of outstanding natural beauty.

    Residents close to the sprawling HQ near East Grinstead in West Sussex have accused the church of “selfishly and arrogantly” carrying out “destructive development plans before authorisation” by building a coach and minibus park before securing planning permission.

    People in the hamlet of St Hill Green are objecting to noise and light pollution and what they say is the destruction of wildlife habitats, including the cutting down of 22 trees. A planning application has now been lodged for retrospective consent.

    Locals have also raised concerns that some councillors have declared gifts or hospitality from the church, including gala dinners at its St Hill Green HQ attended by Tom Cruise, Scientology’s most famous adherent, and its California-based leader David Miscavige.

    The politicians who were entertained by the church include four members of East Grinstead town council’s planning committee, the council’s mayor and two district councillors who represent the ward. The council’s planning committee is to give its view on the planning application on Monday before Mid Sussex district council makes the final decision.

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    A spokesman for the church of Scientology said the works were “a significant improvement” and that more trees have been planted than have been removed.

    Asked why it went ahead with works prior to planning consent, he said it was “an administrative mistake and we are now rectifying the matter with the planning application”.

    He added that the church has “a very professional relationship with local councillors” and invited thousands of non-Scientologists to its events.

    Among the events attended by councillors was last October’s gala celebration of Scientology’s achievements at St Hill where Miscavige addressed a crowd about “the majesty of the International Association of Scientologists” and celebrated a year of “expansion and accomplishment”.

    The weekend-long event featured a patrons ball “in recognition of the newest patrons and their commitment to supporting the humanitarian activities and organisations that are the hallmark of the International Association of Scientologists.”

    Scientology was founded by Hubbard in 1954. At its simplest level, it encourages followers to engage in counselling sessions known as auditing with a view to “going clear” of supposedly harmful patterns of the mind. Above that level followers aspire to become “operating thetans”.

    Teachings at this level are said to involve Hubbard’s accounts of cosmic events that took place millions of years ago. Former members have claimed the church operates a “disconnection” policy, which requires Scientologists to leave behind friends and families who are considered “suppressive persons”.

    Scientology has denied this. At the 2011 census 2,418 people in England and Wales said they were Scientologists, fewer than the number of people who said their religion was “heavy metal”.

    Full article: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...sidents-by-felling-trees-in-conservation-area
  11. RightOn Member

    22?
    Holy crap they suck
  12. RightOn Member

    "Scientology has denied this. At the 2011 census 2,418 people in England and Wales said they were Scientologists,
    fewer than the number of people who said their religion was “heavy metal”.

    BWA HA HA!!!!!
  13. The Wrong Guy Member

    Why has this Church of Scientology building in Old Trafford been empty for 10 years? | Manchester Evening News

    Plans were initially put forward in 2007 for a ‘change of use’, to turn the former mill into an 'Ideal Org'

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    The Church of Scientology plans to go ahead with the proposed renovation of Duckworth’s Essence Distillery, despite a ten-year delay.

    The Grade II-listed building, on Chester Road in Trafford, was bought by the church in 2006 for a reported price of £3m, but has since remained empty.

    Plans were initially put forward in 2007 for a ‘change of use’, to turn the former mill into an ‘Ideal Org’, only for these to be withdrawn. The church now hopes to ‘move forward’ with the Trafford development by next year.

    Spokesman for the Church of Scientology, Graeme Wilson, said: “In 2007, we submitted an application for change of use, and the council advised that it was best to make that submission along with the full planning, hence the retraction.

    Source: http://www.manchestereveningnews.co...ch-scientology-building-old-trafford-12474501
  14. In the UK a listed building may not be demolished , extended or altered without special planning permission from the local planning authority which typically consults the relevant government agency, particularly for significant alterations to more notable listed buildings.

    Owners of listed buildings are in some circumstances compelled to repair and maintain them and can face criminal prosecution if they fail to do so or if they perform unauthorised alterations.

    When alterations are permitted , or when listed buildings are repaired or maintained the owners are compelled to use specific materials or techniques.
  15. A Grade 11 listed building is " of particular importance and of more than special interest".

    Just as a matter of interest to anyone looking after the best interest of the building there's this bit of vital information .
    With. Regards to Certificates of Immunity ; if planning permission has been sought or has been obtained in England anyone can ask the Secretary of State to issue a CERTIFICATE OF IMMUNITY in respect of a particular building.


    There's also the Emergency Listing where the local authority can serve a temporary listed " building preservation notice" if the building is in danger of demolition or alteration in a way that might affect its historical character.
    This remains in force for 6 months until the Secretary of State decides whether or not to formally list the building.


    There's numerous ways to thwart the cult out of acquiring a listed building if necessary and costs nothing but a small effort to the Secretary of State or local authority.
  16. The Wrong Guy Member

    Scientology in hot water again for cutting down trees without permission

    By Tony Ortega, January 19, 2017

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    What is it with David Miscavige and trees? He seems to be in such a hurry to pave over the world in the name of Scientology, the church leader is in hot water again for cutting down trees without permission.

    The Guardian reports that Scientology is applying for consent after it already mowed down 22 trees in order to put in a new parking lot for passenger buses at its UK headquarters, Saint Hill Manor in East Grinstead, England.

    And odds appear to be that they’ll get that permission, even after such a brazen act: The Guardian notes that Miscavige and his sidekick, Tom Cruise, have been softening up local officials with posh parties and gifts.

    We won’t be surprised if East Grinstead rolls over and plays nice for Miscavige and his chainsaw crew. After all, we’ve seen it before.

    Continued at http://tonyortega.org/2017/01/19/sc...in-for-cutting-down-trees-without-permission/
  17. from The Guardian article above:

    "A spokesman for the church of Scientology said the works were “a significant improvement” and that more trees have been planted than have been removed.

    Asked why it went ahead with works prior to planning consent, he said it was “an administrative mistake and we are now rectifying the matter with the planning application”."

    Not an admin mistake - scientology does not obey wog laws as per policy

    Somebody some day will say "this is illegal." By then be sure the orgs [Scientology organizations] say what is legal or not.
    - L. Ron Hubbard, Hubbard Communications Office Policy Letter, 4 January 1966, "LRH Relationship to Orgs"
  18. How is this any different to being a "tin hat"?

    You guys are literally neo tin hat crazies. Just look up "Tin Hat" on google images, that's how the world sees this, and that's how you act, as they too are obsessed over government / corporation conspiracies hiding information, literally no difference. They use dirty radio broadcasts to block out the government and crappy tin hats to protect their locations. Anonymous use dirty internet to block out other internet traffic, and use crappy proxies to protect their location which doesn't work at all.


    Next you guys will start talking about aliens using the government to sell technology with mind control devices in them.
  19. Zak McKracken Member

    Aliens sold ME the technology I need, to implant government agents with mind control devices,
    and also the technology to prevent them from being used against me.
    And you too can have these amazing abilities and more! Salvation is now even cheaper than Scientology,
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    and guaranteed or TRIPLE your money back!
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  21. sceptical Member

    They are definitely doing something at the Manchester building as there is a bit of noise about it opening up again within Scientology circles!!
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  22. Just adding this
    About volunteer vultures in London

    /www.standard.co.uk/lifestyle/esmagazine/is-scientology-the-worlds-most-controversial-religion-having-a-second-coming-a3606826.html

    ‘I tweeted it because I was appalled,’ recalls The Guardian columnist, Dawn Foster, whose photograph of the scene went viral. ‘They had a lot of leaflets and were offering personality tests. People were shouting, “Why are you here? You’re parasites.” And, “Get out — pack up your tent”. I was there for about 10 minutes and saw about 20 people come up, all of whom told them to leave or shouted at them to f*** off. They were trying to defend themselves saying there are lots of Christians and people from the mosque, why shouldn’t we be here?’‘I tweeted it because I was appalled,’ recalls The Guardian columnist, Dawn Foster, whose photograph of the scene went viral. ‘They had a lot of leaflets and were offering personality tests. People were shouting, “Why are you here? You’re parasites.” And, “Get out — pack up your tent”. I was there for about 10 minutes and saw about 20 people come up, all of whom told them to leave or shouted at them to f*** off. They were trying to defend themselves saying there are lots of Christians and people from the mosque, why shouldn’t we be here?’
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