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Scientology lies about accomplishments in Ireland, Mission in Dublin, and Ocean FM radio interview

Discussion in 'News and Current Events' started by CommunicatorIC, Jan 14, 2014.

  1. Scientology lies about accomplishments in Ireland, Mission in Dublin, and Ocean FM radio interview.

    Mike Rinder: Miscavige’s Irish Faux Pas
    http://www.mikerindersblog.org/miscaviges-irish-faux-pas/

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  2. Quentinanon Member

    When doesn't a cult spokeshole lie?
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  3. aegerprimo Member

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  4. RightOn Member

    what? they lie?
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  5. Radio Nation Ireland: Ocean FM deny ‘amazing’ Scientology link
    http://radionation.ie/2014/01/ocean-fm-deny-amazing-scientology-link/

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  6. Anonymous Member

    Whenever the deranged dwarf uses the expression "... in a nutshell..." I giggle!

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  7. The 'fluffy' section of journal.ie called The Daily Edge just published this fluffy piece...

    no mention of Pete or human rights abuses, no mention of the looney cult:

    http://www.dailyedge.ie/ocean-fm-scientology-video-1265351-Jan2014/

    HE MANAGEMENT of Ocean FM have expressed amazement after the radio station’s branding appeared in an international promotional video for the Church of Scientology.
    Footage of an interview in a studio with an Ocean FM logo was used as part of the promo for Scientology’s ‘Truth About Drugs’ campaign, screened at a conference in Florida.
    However, the station – which broadcasts to south Donegal, Sligo and Leitrim – has said they had no involvement in the clip, calling their inclusion “bogus” and saying that it is being investigated. A statement reads:
    The studio is NOT that of Ocean FM, and the ‘presenter’ conducting the interview is not known to anyone at Ocean.
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    A still from the video, showing the Ocean FM branding
    As the promotional footage plays, a voiceover highlights the campaign’s success in Ireland, saying:
    With Truth About Drugs spokesmen hitting national airwaves, from Ocean FM to BBC Radio, and thereby impacting nearly 270,000 listeners [...], that’s how the Mission of Dublin accomplished an 85 per cent drop in drug related crime.
    Speaking on Ocean FM this morning, a representative of Scientology Ireland said the footage – first highlighted in Ireland on Broadsheet.ie – had been a “re-enactment” of an interview on the station.
    Sabrina Shortt said her brother Kristian Shortt – a well-known anti-drugs activist in Donegal, and a member of the Truth Against Drugs campaign – had been interviewed by the station last summer about his own experiences with drugs, and the footage was a recreation of this. She said:
    We’re not in the habit of recording every interview that we do, so we decided to do a little promotional video. The video was a re-enactment.
    She added:
    What I would definitely like to apologise for is, we definitely should have gotten permission that we were doing a re-enactment.
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    Truth Against Drugs volunteers deliver leaflets to a garda station in the video
    Sabrina Shortt said that the video was not primarily about the Church of Scientology, but was intended to highlight the work of the Truth About Drugs campaign.
    Other clips show Truth About Drugs volunteers delivering leaflets to various locations in Dublin, and to Carndonagh garda station.
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    Very very TERRIBLE reporting. FAIL. Go back to Journo school. Fact Check. Any kind of research at all.
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  8. koki Member

    just listened the radio show....wouw.
    Zabina was in corner... lulz.
    and Bravo for that interviewer... he did not let her continue with lies..
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  9. News Talk 106 - 108 FM: Church of Scientology admits part of Irish video was 'reenactment'
    http://www.newstalk.ie/Church-of-Scientology-admits-part-of-Irish-video-was-reenactment

  10. RightOn Member

    ha ha love it
  11. Comments and texts in will be the best part!
  12. Yahoo UK: Irish radio station ‘amazed’ at inclusion in international Scientology video
    http://uk.news.yahoo.com/irish-radi...sion-scientology-video-112635622.html#uZr4MpU

  13. koki Member

    wait until BBC jumps in....
  14. RightOn Member

    sue their asses
    and all of Scientology is a "re enactment"
    Someone needs to point out ALL COS's re-enactments and put them all in one new video
    title:
    Scientology Likes To "Fib"
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  15. BlackRob Member

    And another mirror:

  16. Tony Ortega: Fun in Ireland
    http://tonyortega.org/2014/01/15/ch...m-eire-and-a-puerto-rican-dessert/#more-12668

    Excerpts.
  17. RightOn Member

    85% drop in crime to do their pamphlets? BWA HA HA!
  18. Dialogue Ireland: Ocean FM cover Scientology’s fraudulent use of Ocean FM
    http://dialogueireland.wordpress.co...over-scientologys-fraudulent-use-of-ocean-fm/
  19. Did you all catch the LIveline show?
  20. Malory Member

    Sp Derry/Londonderry comes under the remit of the Dublin mission even though it's in Northern Ireland? Surely the Belfast mission should be covering that?

    Oh, wait, the cult failed up here which is why I saw Michael O'Donnell in that video from Dublin.

    Suck it Miscavige - there's six counties in Ireland where your shit's not welcome.
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  21. RightOn Member

    why stop at Ireland? Take the vid apart and expose the rest!
    There has to be more in that vid that can be disproven by contacting people or areas that were mentioned?
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  22. Malory Member

    Yeah, I'd really appreciate a link to any statement BBC Foyle has to make on the matter.
  23. Yes wild o, but they'll probably talk to Pete and Tony O, not me. I'm just a plebe.

  24. That part I can do!
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  25. RightOn Member

    would be deelish. Strike while the iron is hot and while you have people's attention. Maybe the radio station would like to hear more of what was debunked too and they can do a piece on it.
    If you can also include orgs in disrepair against what is says on the vid, that would be a huge bonus.
    Must contact any organization mentioned in the vid to see if what Captain Blackheart says about their participation in anything had any truth to it. (we know it doesn't, but need to prove it)
    Dox is a must of course to disprove.
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  26. DeathHamster Member

    The stations should check to see if there was an act to reenact. i.e. were they ever on the air.

    CoS likes to slide their stories that way as part of TR-fib.
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  27. themadhair Member

    Easier said than done and the law of diminishing returns. Most of the stuff in the NY event is too esoteric to catch public attention, but let's ignore that for the moment. Most of the claims made are either uncheckable (you can't really prove a negative when it comes to figures someone made up) in principle, while many are uncheckable in practice. Take, for example, the litany of WISE claims - unless we have someone who actually works in one of the companies or who has direct personal knowledge of an individual featured in the video then it cannot be fact checked.

    All that really happened in the Dublin case was the cult made reference to an area where the critics had their shit together, and the claims were the right mix of crazy, local interest and false in a manner that could be easily demonstrate, and the story caught legs. Any specific location with a sensible troupe of critics would get the same treatment, but in general at such events the claims are either sufficiently vague that fact checking isn't possible or in a location where there are no active critics.

    I think it's certainly possible that Zabrina's brother was on air at some stage, but it was in a context where Scientology (nor their front group) were ever mentioned. A guy on air telling his tale of struggling with drugs wouldn't have any obvious connection to Scientology that the station could see. Even if this did occur it makes Scientology's retelling of the event no less dishonest imo.
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  28. DeathHamster Member

    If he was on the air, but didn't disseminate Scientology's drug message, then they're caught in another fib about it being a "reenactment".

    If pressed, they'd might eventually admit that it was a mistake and then try to curve it back. "We've checked, and yes, it was incorrect. You seem to be making a big deal out of it. Is there a reason or purpose why you're attacking my religion?"
  29. What TheMadHair said
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  30. koki Member

    cant wait for Scott's info over at Tony's.... you know - that experienced lawyer.....

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