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Scientology says: "Sexual orientation is not a criteria for membership in the Church." We have ?s

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  1. The Church of Scientology says: "Sexual orientation is not a criteria for membership in the Church." We have questions


    https://twitter.com/ScientologyTV/status/1387879716669911043



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    Note: The Creed of the Church of Scientology does not say anything about sexual orientation. The Church of Scientology's reasoning is non-sequitur.

    In any event, we have questions.


    Sexual Orientation Questionnaire for the Church of Scientology.

    1) Does the Church of Scientology perform gay and lesbian weddings? If the church has not done so to date, is the Church of Scientology willing to perform gay and lesbian weddings?

    2) Does the Church of Scientology support adoption by gay and lesbian couples?

    3) If the Church of Scientology supports adoption by heterosexual individuals, does the Church of Scientology also support adoption by gay and lesbian individuals?

    4) Can a gay or lesbian person become and remain a member of the Church of Scientology in good standing without being required to be celibate, without being required to eventually become heterosexual, and while continuing to have gay or lesbian sex subject only to the same ethical requirements applied to heterosexuals?

    5) Can a gay or lesbian person become and remain Clear in good standing without being required to be celibate, without being required to eventually become heterosexual, and while continuing to have gay or lesbian sex subject only to the same ethical requirements applied to heterosexuals?

    6) Can a gay or lesbian person become and remain OT 8 in good standing without being required to be celibate, without being required to eventually become heterosexual, and while continuing to have gay or lesbian sex subject only to the same ethical requirements applied to heterosexuals?

    7) Can a gay or lesbian person become and remain a non-Sea Org staff member in good standing without being required to be celibate, without being required to eventually become heterosexual, and while continuing to have gay or lesbian sex subject only to the same ethical requirements applied to heterosexuals?

    8) Can a gay or lesbian person become and remain a Sea Org member in good standing without being required to be celibate, without being required to eventually become heterosexual, and while continuing to have gay or lesbian sex subject only to the same ethical requirements applied to heterosexuals?

    9) Can a gay or lesbian person become and remain a member of the clergy of the Church of Scientology in good standing without being required to be celibate, without being required to eventually become heterosexual, and while continuing to have gay or lesbian sex subject only to the same ethical requirements applied to heterosexuals?

    10) Is it TRUE that the Church of Scientology does NOT perform, endorse, advocate or accept the validity of any form of gay or lesbian conversion therapy, or any form of therapy or spiritual practice or technology intended, designed or that has the purpose of changing a gay or lesbian person's sexual orientation from gay or lesbian to heterosexual?

    Ver. 3.0

    NOTE: In Version 3.0 above, I revised question number 10 to (perhaps awkwardly) include a double negative. I did this so that the Church of Scientology will pass as not discriminating against gay and lesbian people if and only if all of the questions are answered "yes." I believe that overall the questionnaire is less confusing that way, and less likely cause question number 10 to be answered inaccurately.

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    Background:


    VIDEO: Why You Can't Be Gay In Scientology.





    Scientology Homophobia


    https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-homophobia/


    Screenshot_20210219-151108_1613772710321.png .


    Scientology’s Homophobia: Even the Church’s Token Gay Guy Was Disgusted


    https://www.villagevoice.com/2012/0...even-the-churchs-token-gay-guy-was-disgusted/



    Screenshot_20210219-151648_1613773066120-1.png .

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  2. candide2020 Member

    I remember a painter in paris celebrity center ,they wanted to change his sexual orientation ... after a lot of years and cash he was still gay but then he choosed to be free and gay outside the cult
  3. This is an update to a story that I posted several days ago. Given the Church of Scientology's recent Twitter response regarding homosexuality, I decided to check their other Twitter responses on the subject. The results are below.

    The big news is that the Church of Scientology admits that it does not perform gay weddings.

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    The Church of Scientology says that gay people are welcome in the Church. Again, we have questions.

    https://twitter.com/Scientology/status/1085380137669976064

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    NOTE: The Creed of the Church of Scientology does not say anything about sexual orientation. The Church of Scientology's argument is non-sequitur.

    https://twitter.com/Scientology/status/1033406015855681536

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    https://twitter.com/Scientology/status/938165223885758464

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    NOTE: The use of the word "also" is an admission that Hubbard also instructed as a matter of religious doctrine that homosexuality was a "perversion" when he wrote in the nineteen-fifties and sixties. The question is, why should we believe that anything in Scientology religious doctrine regarding homosexuality has changed?

    Nonetheless, the Church of Scientology admits that it does not perform gay weddings.

    https://twitter.com/Scientology/status/1084947089967046658

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    In any event, we have questions.

    Sexual Orientation Questionnaire for the Church of Scientology.

    1) Does the Church of Scientology support adoption by gay and lesbian couples?

    2) If the Church of Scientology supports adoption by heterosexual individuals, does the Church of Scientology also support adoption by gay and lesbian individuals?

    3) Can a gay or lesbian person become and remain a member of the Church of Scientology in good standing without being required to be celibate, without being required to eventually become heterosexual, and while continuing to have gay or lesbian sex subject only to the same ethical requirements applied to heterosexuals?

    4) Can a gay or lesbian person receive Auditing (Scientology Pastoral Counseling) without being required to be celibate, without being required to eventually become heterosexual, and while continuing to have gay or lesbian sex subject only to the same ethical requirements applied to heterosexuals?

    5) Can a gay or lesbian person become and remain Clear in good standing without being required to be celibate, without being required to eventually become heterosexual, and while continuing to have gay or lesbian sex subject only to the same ethical requirements applied to heterosexuals?

    6) Can a gay or lesbian person become and remain OT 8 in good standing without being required to be celibate, without being required to eventually become heterosexual, and while continuing to have gay or lesbian sex subject only to the same ethical requirements applied to heterosexuals?

    7) Can a gay or lesbian person become and remain a non-Sea Org staff member in good standing without being required to be celibate, without being required to eventually become heterosexual, and while continuing to have gay or lesbian sex subject only to the same ethical requirements applied to heterosexuals?

    8) Can a gay or lesbian person become and remain a Sea Org member in good standing without being required to be celibate, without being required to eventually become heterosexual, and while continuing to have gay or lesbiann sex subject only to the same ethical requirements applied to heterosexuals?

    9) Can a gay or lesbian person become and remain a member of the clergy of the Church of Scientology in good standing without being required to be celibate, without being required to eventually become heterosexual, and while continuing to have gay or lesbian sex subject only to the same ethical requirements applied to heterosexuals?

    10) Is it TRUE that the Church of Scientology does NOT perform, endorse, advocate or accept the validity of any form of gay or lesbian conversion therapy, or any form of therapy or spiritual practice or technology intended, designed or that has the purpose of changing a gay or lesbian person's sexual orientation from gay or lesbian to heterosexual?

    Ver. 4.0

    NOTE: In Version 4.0 above, I revised question number 10 to (perhaps awkwardly) include a double negative. I did this so that the Church of Scientology will pass as not discriminating against gay and lesbian people if and only if all of the questions are answered "yes." I believe that overall the questionnaire is less confusing that way, and less likely cause question number 10 to be answered inaccurately.

    *************************


    Background:

    VIDEO: Why You Can't Be Gay In Scientology.



    Scientology Homophobia

    https://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-homophobia/ .

    Screenshot_20210219-151108_1613772710321-1.png

    Scientology’s Homophobia: Even the Church’s Token Gay Guy Was Disgusted

    https://www.villagevoice.com/2012/0...even-the-churchs-token-gay-guy-was-disgusted/

    Screenshot_20210219-151648_1613773066120-2.png

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