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  1. Scientology under investigation in Kazakhstan.

    Kazakhstan Azattyq TV: In Almaty, initiated an investigation against "Scientology"

    http://rus.azattyq.org/a/27802151.html

    Google translation:

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    Almaty police has begun pre-trial investigation into the fraud on a large scale by the leadership and functionaries of the public association "Center of Almaty cultivation", reports the news agency "Interfax - Kazakhstan". According to police, the center refers to the Church of Scientology.

    "The grounds for pre-trial investigations were the complaints of former supporters of this organization of the receipt of their functionaries of large sums of money by abuse of trust in the provision of deliberately ineffectual services at an inflated price," - quoted by the press service of DIA of Almaty "Interfax - Kazakhstan". According to the Department of Internal Affairs, on Monday, 13 June at the organization's office some evidence was seized, whose names are not specified in the message.

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    "Church of Scientology" was deprived of Kazakhstan the status of a religious association after 2012 had failed to reregister.

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  3. Scientology members in Pavlodar, Kazakhstan suspected of fraud.

    Google translation.

    Mir 24 TV: Pavlodar Scientologists suspected of fraud
    http://mir24.tv/news/incidentes/14583063

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    Head of the Department of so-called Church of Scientology in the Kazakhstan Pavlodar suspected of fraud. The homes and offices of members of the public association "Pavlodar center" Dianetics "raided, the agency Sputnik , the press center of the regional department of internal affairs.

    The basis for the pre-trial investigation of the complaint was the former adherent of the organization. He told law enforcement agencies, that the leadership of the church draws money from followers, providing deliberately ineffectual services at a higher cost (cleansing courses of psychos).

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  4. If you search Google for the word саентологов (i.e., the Russian word for Scientology) and limit the search to one week, and click the "Translate this page" link,' you will efficiently find a large number of Kazakhstan web sites and news sources that are carrying the story.

    So far, they all seem to be telling the same basic story.
  5. Scientology in Kazakhstan being investigated for "fraud on a large scale."

    A bit more detail in this article. Again, Google translation.

    Caravan KZ News: Almaty Scientologists also suspected of fraud

    http://www.caravan.kz/news/almatinskikh-saentologov-tozhe-podozrevayut-v-moshennichestve-377813/

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    The bodies of the Interior conducted a pre-trial investigation into the fraud on a large scale (Article 190 of the Criminal Code of the Republic of Kazakhstan). Under suspicion leaders and functionaries of the public association "Center for cultivation of Almaty" (refers to the so-called "Church of Scientology", devoid of religion in 2012 godustatusa gluttony expert opinion on the Agency for Religious Affairs).

    The reason for the start of pre-trial investigations were the complaints of former adherents of the said organization. They paid large sums of money functionaries of the public association for deliberately ineffective services. And the cost was too high.

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  6. Interesting. Stories above mention the city of Almaty or the city of Pavlodar, which are in very different parts of Kazakhstan. From Wikipedia:

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  7. In Pavlodar, Kazakhstan a criminal case is being investigated in relation to Scientology.

    It appears there are two criminal investigations of Scientology going on in Kazakhstan, or one investigation (or two coordinated investigations) of Scientology organizations in two different and, as noted above, geographically distant cities:

    Pavlodar Center Dianetics, in the city of Pavlodar; and

    Center of Almaty Cultivation, in the city of Almaty.

    The following article concerns Dianetics center in Pavlodar. Again, Google translation.

    Zakon KZ: In Pavlodar a criminal case is being investigated in relation to Scientology

    https://www.zakon.kz/4799825-v-pavlodare-ugolovnoe-delo.html

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    Department of Internal Affairs of Pavlodar region conducted pre-trial investigation for fraud (Article 190 of the Criminal Code of the Republic of Kazakhstan). Under suspicion functionaries of the public association "Pavlodar center" Dianetics "(refer to the so-called" Church of Scientology ", lacking in 2012 the status of a religious association an expert report of the Agency for Religious RK), said Zakon.kz with reference to the press service of the Department of Internal Affairs of the region.

    The basis for the pre-trial investigation of the complaint served as a former adherent of the said organization. He reported receiving functionaries of the organization of large sums of money for ineffective service at an inflated price (cleansing courses of psychos).

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  8. Given that the Church of Scientology was "deprived" of religious status in Kazakhstan in 2012, why does the official Church of Scientology website list a Church of Scientology Mission in Alamaty, Kazakhstan?

    Code:
    http://www.almaty.scientologymissions.org/
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  9. Interesting, the lovely John and she that shall be called Irina often boast of their connections to Kazakhstan. An Irina Kudronok-Mappin is from Kazakhstan.
    I'm pretty sure the Mappins have a hand in Scientology in Kazakhstan although they keep sending me back to the basement to tuck up sell my "art" to hotel victims guests!
  10. mnql1 Member

    саентологов (in italics саентологов) means “of Scientologists” and there is an alternate spelling: сайентологов. A search for multiple words will cast a wider net:

    Нарконон OR Дианетика OR саентология OR саентологии OR саентолог OR саентологи OR саентологов OR сайентология OR сайентологии OR сайентолог OR сайентологи OR сайентологов

    Explanation:

    Нарконон (Narconon) OR Дианетика (Dianetics) OR саентология (Scientology) OR саентологии (of Scientology) OR саентолог (Scientologist) OR саентологи (Scientologists) OR саентологов (of Scientologists) OR (alternate spellings) сайентология OR сайентологии OR сайентолог OR сайентологи OR сайентологов
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  11. Scientology applying Suppressive Person Doctrine and Disconnection in Kazakhstan and against Kazakh citizens.

    While the Google translation is far from perfect, the relevant facts are relatively clear.

    Exclusive KZ: Scientologists, businessmen, deputies, prosecutors and private matter Nurali A.
    http://exclusive.kz/scientologi

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    As it became known, our publication dated June 10, "Scientology in Kazakhstan" showed the leadership of the supervisory authority, and then search warrant "self Almaty Center" was issued on June 13 in the framework of pre-trial investigation in respect of its employees.

    Exclusive portal reporter recorded an interview with one of the affected Dina Tylevich. According to her, the other day, investigators seized a Scientology seven three objects "gazelle" of documents in paper and electronic media, as well as recording, "The E-meter" (similarity of lie detectors - Ed.) To the "confessions" of adherents of this cult. In total, it was seized in 2000 folders to be sent for examination. One of them was signed as "Nurali A" Scientologists hid carefully.

    For the half year stay with saentologo except for 120 thousand dollars given for getting super-powers, Dean lost in Scientology daughter Regina. Eighteen-year girl went to Scientology training in the US in May 2014 to an annual visa. When in December 2015, the couple went out of Tylevich cult daughter called him and said that he refused them because they are "suppressive person", the enemies of religion, which she chose. The girl lives in a two-year primary mission of Scientologists in the world, located in the United States (Florida, Clearwater). Regina, according to his mother, afraid to go home, because in the past year, her parents came from the Church of Scientology. Call the American mission to talk to the daughter - it is useless, calls the machine responds. Although Scientology has the right to exclude minors, if the issues with their parents "not settled", he says, they are antagonists. But in the case of Regina is different: it from the organization for some reason, do not rule.

    "I am sending Regina parcels, she wrote scouts are employees of special services abroad. They asked me to be quiet, because they have information that when parents are beginning to fight for their children, those secretly sent to numerous missions around the world, then they are simply impossible to find. Even if there is a mark in one country, it is to get permission to enter the mission, the child will forward to the next country, and so on ad infinitum. Even if to prove that the person sought has been in the mission, Scientologists will answer, they say, it is a free man and went wherever you want, without accounting to us. While those who escaped from the "Sea Organization" (US mission head Scientologists), they say that there are prohibited telephones and correspondence with relatives. Regina can not pay for their education in Scientology, and I do not send my money, so I believe that Scientologists hold it in America as a hostage "- said the mother deceived.

    How to tell the girl's mother, "the investigators showed to senior management how dangerous Scientology." "They are trying to delay to their senior politicians and well-known artists. On the sidelines of your stuff caused a great resonance. The prosecutor in the publication day gave the search warrant Scientologists. enforcement officers are afraid - after the publication of figures Almaty akim, who has no idea who the Scientologists, and they tried to use their photos with him. Baibek photographed Abdinova (head of Scientology Fund - Ed.) In 2010, and she became a Scientologist in 2011, he must have all the offensive "- shares his guesses Dean Tylevich.

    According to her, the investigator asked "not to raise the issue of the return of Regina before the investigative actions to be taken." "The investigation for some reason does not want to light the story of my girl, it is not clear - why. They keep saying, "Now is not the time", "this is our trump card", "they need to be a good catch." Sami security officers appealed to the US Embassy and our connected. Our bodies want to contact our Foreign Ministry, there have to write to America, that Regina is held in a criminal case, and then it will have to return home. In addition, Regina is in the US illegally on an expired visa, "- explained the details of Dean.

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  12. More on Scientology applying Disconnection in Kazakhstan and against Kazakh citizens.
    Again, Google translation.

    YTRO KZ: Scientologists illegally held in US 20-year kazahstanku

    http://ytro.kz/saentologi-nezakonno-derzhat-v-ssha-20-letnyuyu-kazahstanku/

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    "The worst thing is that I lost my daughter, Regina, her deception recruited to serve the Church of Scientology for a billion years, signed with me and my husband a contract. When we met with the mother of my husband Daniel, she invited us to her daughter Regina on OT is a holiday. The daughters then, in 2012, was 16 years old, she graduated from high school as "excellent" and wanted to enter the Medical Institute named after Asfandiyarova to save lives," - she said.

    According to her, the festival she met with Scientologists-the same age, they told her that Scientology year gives supernormal conscious human control and treatment of his body that did not get over 10 years of higher education.

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    "She showed films and videos about the past life and the various" miracles "taken no worse than in Hollywood, in the end she believed in all this and began to ask for training to Scientologists in the United States, the city Clearwater Florida. She's my only daughter, a very intelligent, moreover Scientologists me convinced that it is not a religion but a science, and we do not have to give up Islam " - Dean added.

    The woman said that as a result of her daughter went to America in May 2014, and after she and her husband went out of Scientology, she called and refused them.
    "Leaving, Regina received a visa for one year, it has long been ineffective, moreover, it is our nationality, which may refuse only arrived in Kazakhstan. But Scientologists do not release it under any pretext. I hope now that the criminal case, it will cause in Kazakhstan through official channels as a witness or victim - still only be returned to me my daughter! "- Says the mother deceived.

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  13. Thank you for this, it is very helpful. Using this I found the two Kazakhstan disconnection stories noted above.

    To search for future stories limited to the Kazakhstan disconnection aspect, I am adding the daughter's name - Регину. So far doing that find, and to date only finds, the two stories I found previously.
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  14. More on Scientology applying Disconnection in Kazakhstan and against Kazakh citizens.

    Google translation.

    Nur KZ: Scientologists illegally held in US 20-year kazahstanku

    https://www.nur.kz/1162311-saentologi-nezakonno-derzhat-v-ssha-20-let.html

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    "The worst thing is that I lost my daughter, Regina, her deception recruited to serve the Church of Scientology for a billion years, signed with me and my husband a contract. When we met with the mother of my husband Daniel, she invited us to her daughter Regina on OT is a holiday. The daughters then, in 2012, was 16 years old, she graduated from high school as "excellent" and wanted to enter the Medical Institute named after Asfandiyarova to save lives, "- she said.

    According to her, the festival she met with Scientologists-the same age, they told her that Scientology year gives supernormal conscious human control and treatment of his body that did not get over 10 years of higher education.

    pogudx48145o3vueg.9f76ebe7.jpg

    "She showed films and videos about the past life and the various" miracles "taken no worse than in Hollywood, in the end she believed in all this and began to ask for training to Scientologists in the United States, the city Clearwater, Florida. It is I have only daughter, a very intelligent, moreover Scientologists me convinced that it is not a religion but a science, and we do not have to give up Islam "- Dean added.

    The woman said that as a result of her daughter went to America in May 2014, and after she and her husband went out of Scientology, she called and refused them.

    "Leaving, Regina received a visa for one year, it has long been ineffective, moreover, it is our nationality, which may refuse only arrived in Kazakhstan. But Scientologists do not release it under any pretext. I hope now that the criminal case, it will cause in Kazakhstan through official channels as a witness or victim - still only be returned to me my daughter! "- Says the mother deceived.

    Author: Manas Bistaev

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  15. I really feel sorry for the mother and father in this Kazakhstan Scientology disconnection case. We tend to think there is so much information now available about Scientology, but how much of that is in the Kazakh language or even Russian (assuming they speak Russian)? I think these people had no idea what they were getting into.
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  16. Will President Hillary Clinton, like her husband previous President Bill Clinton, make a point of defending Scientology against religious discrimination in Kazakhstan and elsewhere? After all, it is not like the Kazakhs have any legitimate complaints against Scientology....
  17. Two new stories indicate the alleged Scientology fraud started, or at least was first detected, in Pavlodar, Kazakhstan, and then moved, or was then detected in, Almaty, Kazakhstan. Unfortunately, neither article discusses the Scientology Disconnection issue.

    Again, Google translations.

    Daily News, KZ: Scientologists in Pavlodar suspected of fraud

    http://www.dailynews.kz/acidents/crimes/saentologi_v_pavlodare_podozrevajutsja_v_moshennichestve

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    June 15, 2016

    Pavlodar. Management of the public association "Pavlodar center" Dianetics "(refers to the so-called" Church of Scientology ") is suspected of fraud, reports IA Novosti-Kazakhstan reports citing the press-center of IAD of Pavlodar region.

    "Church of Scientology" in 2012, was deprived of the status of religious association conclusion of the Agency for Religious Affairs of Kazakhstan.

    According to police, the basis for the pre-trial investigation of the complaint served as a former adherent of the organization of the receipt of their functionaries large sums of money by abuse of trust in the provision of deliberately ineffectual services at a higher cost (cleansing courses of psychos).

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    Daily News, KZ: The suspected fraud Scientologists now in Almaty

    http://www.dailynews.kz/acidents/cr...e_podozrevajutsja_saentologi_teper_i_v_almaty

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    June 16, 2016

    ALMATY. Police are investigating the southern capital of a criminal case on fraud on a large scale on the part of leaders and functionaries of the public association "Center for cultivation of Almaty", belonging to the "Church of Scientology", reports DailyNews.kz reports citing the press service of the Department of Internal Affairs of the city.

    "The bodies of the Interior carried out a pre-trial investigation into the fraud on a large scale (Article 190 of the Criminal Code of the Republic of Kazakhstan) on the part of leaders and functionaries of the public association" Center for cultivation of Almaty "(refers to the so-called" Church of Scientology ", devoid of the 2012 religious status gluttony expert opinion on the Agency for Religious Affairs) "-. said in a DVD message.

    The basis for the pre-trial investigations have served as "a complaint of former supporters of this organization of the receipt of their functionaries of large sums of money by abuse of trust in the provision of deliberately ineffectual services at an inflated price," said the police.

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  18. More on Scientology applying Disconnection in Kazakhstan and against Kazakh citizens.

    KZ Troniks KZ: Scientologists illegally held in US 20-year kazahstanku

    http://kz.troniks.kz/publ/novosti_k...t_v_ssha_20_letnjuju_kazakhstanku/6-1-0-29215

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    "The worst thing is that I lost my daughter, Regina, her deception recruited to serve the Church of Scientology for a billion years, signed with me and my husband a contract. When we met with the mother of my husband Daniel, she invited us to her daughter Regina on OT is a holiday. The daughters then, in 2012, was 16 years old, she graduated from high school as "excellent" and wanted to enter the Medical Institute named after Asfandiyarova to save lives, "- she said.

    According to her, the festival she met with Scientologists-the same age, they told her that Scientology year gives supernormal conscious human control and treatment of his body that did not get over 10 years of higher education.

    pogudx48145o3vueg.9f76ebe7.jpg "She showed films and videos about the past life and the various" miracles "taken no worse than in Hollywood, in the end she believed in all this and began to ask for training to Scientologists in the United States, the city Clearwater Florida. She's my only daughter, a very intelligent, moreover Scientologists me convinced that it is not a religion but a science, and we do not have to give up Islam "- Dean added.
    The woman said that as a result of her daughter went to America in May 2014, and after she and her husband went out of Scientology, she called and refused them.
    "Leaving, Regina received a visa for one year, it has long been ineffective, moreover, it is our nationality, which may refuse only arrived in Kazakhstan. But Scientologists do not release it under any pretext. I hope now that the criminal case, it will cause in Kazakhstan through official channels as a witness or victim - still only be returned to me my daughter! "- Says the mother deceived.

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  19. Not that the order is crucially important, but another article states the Scientology fraud was first reported in Pavlodar, Kazakhstan, and then reported in Almaty, Kazakhstan.

    Google translation follows.

    News Kazakhstan: http://newskaz.ru/regions/20160616/12205598.html

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    ALMATY, June 16 IA News-Kazakhstan. Almaty Police are investigating a criminal case for fraud on a large scale on the part of leaders and functionaries of the public association "Center for cultivation of Almaty", belonging to the "Church of Scientology", said the City Department of Internal Affairs press service.

    "The bodies of the Interior carried out a pre-trial investigation into the fraud on a large scale (Article 190 of the Criminal Code of the Republic of Kazakhstan) on the part of leaders and functionaries of the public association" Center for cultivation of Almaty "(refers to the so-called" Church of Scientology ", devoid of the 2012 religious status gluttony expert opinion on the Agency for Religious Affairs) "-. said in a statement.

    According to a press release, the grounds for pre-trial investigations have served as "a complaint of former supporters of this organization of the receipt of their functionaries of large sums of money by abuse of trust in the provision of deliberately ineffectual services at a higher cost."

    [SNIP]

    Earlier it was reported that a similar pre-trial investigation is conducted against the leadership of the public association "Pavlodar center" Dianetics, "which also refers to" the Church of Scientology. "

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  20. Obviously, I've been trying to follow this story, and particularly the disconnection issue (albeit perhaps a bit obsessively). To date, the best story, and direct link, is.

    http://exclusive.kz/obshhestvo/1313...atyi,-prokuroryi-i-lichnoe-delo-nurali-a.html

    Google translation:

    https://translate.google.com/transl...roryi-i-lichnoe-delo-nurali-a.html&edit-text=

    This story is excerpted in the thread above, though at that time for some reason I couldn't provide the direct link. In any event, this is to date the best and most detailed story covering the issue of disconnection in Kazakhstan.
  21. JohnnyRUClear Member

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  22. HELP REQUESTED on Kazakhstan Scientology Disconnection Case

    Please use hashtags #ВернитеРигину #ReturnRegina #ReturnRigina #VerniteRiginu on social media (e.g., Twitter, Facebook, VK, Instagram, etc.).

    A much more detailed article on the Kazakhstan disconnection case. Help has been requested.

    Please note below are pictures of Regina (also trans. Rigina) with Security at Scientology Flag Land Base.

    Nur KZ: Parents recruited Scientologists in a billion years kazahstanki appealed to Nazarbayev

    https://www.nur.kz/1165098-roditeli-zaverbovannoy-saentologami.html

    Google translation:

    https://translate.google.com/transl...5098-roditeli-zaverbovannoy-saentologami.html

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    Dean and Daniel Tylevich parents illegally held in US Rigina Hikmatulinoy, launched a campaign in social networks # VerniteRiginu. In it, they asked the Kazakhs, President Nursultan Nazarbayev and US Ambassador George Krol, for help in return the girls to their homeland in the criminal investigation of the fraudulent activities of Scientologists in Almaty, reports NUR.KZ .

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    RIGINA TO SCIENTOLOGY. PHOTO: PERSONAL ARCHIVE TYLEVICH FAMILY

    In distributed on social networks video Dean Tylevich says that in 2013, her teenage daughter Rigina after graduation recruited Scientologists. Adherents of this cult had promised the girl and her mother taught for 60 000 dollars for Genetic Engineering and unique methods of psychotherapy.

    [VIDEO AT LINKS ABOVE OUTSIDE QUOTATION]

    According to Dina Tylevich, Scientologists come "handle" her home and work for a year then in May 2014 Dean paid the required amount, and send her daughter to the annual training to the main branch of Scientology -. "Sea Org", Florida, Clearwater .

    [PICTURE OMITTED. SEE LINKS ABOVE OUTSIDE QUOTATION]

    The girl's mother also came into Scientology, to understand what kind of science it carries. Seeing that Scientology promises are tricked, Tylevich citizen filed the fraud to the police and demanded that the clergy bring her daughter home.

    Scientologists refused to give Rigina initially demanded to take a statement from the police. But they deceived the woman no longer believes, considering that the criminal case, which featured her daughter - the only way to return home Rigina.

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    "Please repost the maximum! (Please repost to duplicate the hashtag #VerniteRiginu) In 2013, my seventeen year old daughter was treated Rigina Scientologists. They inspired her to get their medical education in the United States. Within a year, she and her new friends begged me to pay her annual education in their organization in the United States. Scientologists every day came to my home and work. I paid 60,000 dollars for her training and Rigina went to the US in May 2014, just after the 18th anniversary for the annual visa. And more than a year, it is there illegally. I, too, entered into Scientology, to understand what kind of science. I learned that it is not a science, and paranoid delusions and promises - a lie and a fraud. Then I came out of this organization. And immediately I began to demand the return of my daughter home, home. But the Church of Scientology leaders said they would not return Rigina until I'll get a statement from the police. I would never take away from the police statement because it is the only nichtochka that gives me hope to get her back home. "

    "I beg and beseech the people of Kazakhstan, President Nursultan Nazarbayev, US Ambassador George Krol and all caring people to help save my daughter, who is in America hostage this totalitarian cult. Please indifferent users of social networks support the action "RETURN Rigina!" # VerniteRiginu "- wrote on their pages on social networks Dean Tylevich.

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    RIGINA WITH SECURITY

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    RIGINA WITH SECURITY

    Dina's husband Daniel Tylevich also recorded a video message in English, addressed to foreign organizations opposing Scientology around the world.

    At the end of the video clip wife asked Tylevich Almaty Mayor to authorize a picket in front of the US Consulate General and the head office of the Church of Scientology demanding the return of their daughter because Figuring in a criminal case in the Republic of Kazakhstan.

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    RIGINA WITH SECURITY

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    RIGINA WITH SECURITY

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    RIGINA WITH SECURITY

    Portal NUR.KZ made a formal request to the US Embassy in the Republic of Kazakhstan for information about illegal stay on the territory of the United States Rigina Hakimulinoy.

    We remind that on June 13 at the "Center of Almaty self" were searched as part of the pre-trial investigation of fraud.

    Previously mother Rigina Hakimulinoy Tylevich Dean gave an interview NUR.KZ the illegal holding her daughter in the United States.

    Author: Manas Bistaev

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    Dina Tylevich Facebook Page

    https://www.facebook.com/dina.tylevich

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    Danil David Facebook Page

    https://www.facebook.com/danildavid888

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  23. Incredulicide Member

    I couldn't find this video, only a non-English one is at the Nur. kz youtube channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_DBJIgVbzbbdi6FmlNF4RQ/videos

    Anyone know where the video in English is?
  24. Parents ask the President of Kazakhstan to rescue their daughter - a hostage of Scientology.

    Zakon KZ: Parents kazahstanki R.Hikmatulinoy asked the President of Kazakhstan to rescue the daughter - a hostage of Scientologists

    https://www.zakon.kz/4800759-roditeli-kazakhstanki-r.khikmatulinojj.html

    Google translation:

    https://translate.google.com/transl...9-roditeli-kazakhstanki-r.khikmatulinojj.html

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    The action started in social networks VerniteRiginu parents kazahstanki Rigina Hikmatulinoy. Girl allegedly located in the United States held hostage by Scientology, reports Zakon.kz citing Facebook mother - Dina Tylevich .

    Parents turn to President Nursultan Nazarbayev, US Ambassador George Krol and all caring people to help rescue her daughter and bring her home.

    "I ask the maximum repost! (Please to repost duplicate hashtag # VerniteRiginu) in 2013. My seventeen year old daughter Rigina treated Scientologists. They inspired her to get their medical education in the United States. She and her new friends were begging to pay me for years her annual education their organization in the United States. Scientologists every day came to my home and work.

    I paid 60,000 dollars for her training and Rigina went to the US in May 2014 immediately after 18 years at an annual visa. And more than a year, it is there illegally.

    I, too, entered into Scientology, to understand what kind of science. I learned that it is not a science and paranoid delusions and promises - a lie and a fraud. Then I came out of this organization. And immediately I began to demand the return of my daughter home, home.

    But the leaders of the Church of Scientology said that Rigina not return until I'll get a statement from the police.

    I would never take away from the police statement because it is the only nichtochka that gives me hope to get her back home.

    I beg and beseech the people of Kazakhstan, President Nursultan Nazarbayev, US Ambassador George Krol and all caring people to help save my daughter, who is in America hostage this totalitarian cult.

    Please indifferent users of social networks support the action "RETURN Rigina!" # VerniteRiginu ", - the statement says D.Tylevich.

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  25. Mother publishes open letter to people of Kazakhstan to save daughter from Scientology.

    365 Info KZ: Almatinka appealed to Nazarbayev to save her daughter from the Church of Scientology

    http://365info.kz/2016/06/almatinka...rosboj-spasti-ee-doch-iz-tserkvi-saentologii/

    Google translation:

    https://translate.google.com/transl...rosboj-spasti-ee-doch-iz-tserkvi-saentologii/

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    Almaty resident Dean Tylevich on his page on Facebook has published an open letter to the people of Kazakhstan, the head of state, after the US and caring people from around the world to help rescue her daughter Rigina, located in one of Scientology organizations on the territory of the United States.

    As it follows from the letter of a woman Rigina came under the influence of the followers of the Church of Scientology in 2013, when the girl was only 17 years old. After that, she decided to leave for the United States to study in medical school. According to his mother, the decision girl "inspired" Scientologists together with Rigina for a year "storm" mother and daughter requests to pay tuition in the United States.

    According to Tylevich, in the end, she gave up and paid for his daughter's university. In May 2014 Rigina went to the US on a visa issued for a period of 1 year. In 2015, she did not return home, the visa was not extended. Thus, Rigina more than a year is in the territory of States illegally.

    We will provide further word itself Dina Tylevich. The style, spelling and punctuation of the original text retained.

    "I, too, entered into Scientology, to understand what kind of science. I learned that it is not a science and paranoid delusions and promises - a lie and a fraud. Then I came out of this organization. And immediately I began to demand the return of my daughter home, home -

    Rigina mother wrote in her letter. -

    But the leaders of the Church of Scientology said that Rigina not return until I'll get a statement from the police.

    I would never take away from the police statement because it is the only nichtochka that gives me hope to get her back home.

    I beg and beseech the people of Kazakhstan, President Nursultan Nazarbayev, US Ambassador George Krol and all caring people to help save my daughter, who is in America hostage this totalitarian cult.

    Please indifferent users of social networks support the action "RETURN Rigina!" # VerniteRiginu "

    In 2012, the opinion of experts of the Agency for Religious Affairs of Kazakhstan Church of Scientology has been deprived in Kazakhstan the status of a religious association.

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  26. The Wrong Guy Member

    Scientology is holding this Kazakh 20-year-old prisoner, says her media-grabbing mom

    By Tony Ortega, June 20, 2016

    Quote:

    We turn to the Underground Bunker’s Russian-language wing to help us with a story developing in Kazakhstan that has generated some excitement over at WhyWeProtest.net and elsewhere. And even with expert translation assistance, this story is a bit batty and we’d like to get it more completely sorted out.

    At this point, what we think we know is that one mother in Kazakhstan, Dina Tylevich, has taken on Scientology in a big way and is trying to get the top levels of government there interested in helping her recover her daughter, Regina Hikmatulina, 20, who Dina says is in the US illegally as a Sea Org member at Scientology’s spiritual mecca, the Flag Land Base in Clearwater, Florida.

    The story has been covered by numerous press outlets in Kazakhstan, and in some depth by the news portal Nur.KZ, which a Kazakh friend tells us is very popular there.

    Dina and her husband Danil Tylevich have appealed to Kazakh president Nursultan Nazarbayev for help, and the Kazakh press has reported that Scientology, which was denied religious status in 2012, has been raided by law enforcement recently. Whether those government raids are related directly to the campaign by Dina Tylevich is unclear.

    Dina has given numerous interviews, and she posts regularly on Facebook with her complaints about Scientology. She’s even started a Facebook group with the name “Kazakhstan without totalitarian cults” which features images of her daughter.

    Continued here:
    http://tonyortega.org/2016/06/20/sc...ear-old-prisoner-says-her-media-grabbing-mom/
  27. The Facebook group mentioned in Tony's article, Kazakhstan Without Totalitarian Cults, may be worth reviewing not only for information on this case, but also for general leaks.

    https://www.facebook.com/Казахстан-Без-Тоталитарных-Культов-720744421371614/

    For example:

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    Danil David Below, I spread the secret correspondence of the Moscow leadership of the Scientology cult. While they realize kidalcheskuyu scheme against its adherents, milking Kazakhstan Scientologists are actively underway. Come our former compatriots such asKaraganda Alexander Ivanov (responsible for raising funds for building new sects in Kazakhstan) and collected 35 000 dollars for one night to build sektanstkih institutions in Kazakhstan. These buildings in Kazakhstan will also belong to the top leadership of the sect of Scientology and not slavishly staff will work to pay off the rent, while the parishioners hand over these buildings their hard-earned money. http://forum.iriney.ru/topic/839-sekretnye-instruktcii-saentologi-priachut-imusche/?p=9447

    May 15 at 8:01pm · Edited

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  28. Mat Pesh on Tony's blog has more information. The responding comment is also interesting.

    http://tonyortega.org/2016/06/20/sc...ys-her-media-grabbing-mom/#comment-2740523554

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    Mat Pesch • 11 hours ago

    The woman that Regina is with in the picture is a long term Sea Org member in the Flag Service Organization (FSO). I think her name is Jean Alpers.
    It looks like the photo was taken at the Fort Harrison Hotel.
    I am surprised the Sea Org is holding onto Regina despite the bad PR. When I was there a little over 10 years ago the Sea Org would have offloaded Regina so as to avoid the bad PR. I worked with 2 different Sea Org members who were VERY valuable, 25 year veterans. The mother of one went to the press in Hungary and the son of the other made a stink in Clearwater. In both cases they were quickly kicked out of the Sea Org despite their protests. At that time there was a real effort to avoid bad PR. There doesn't seem to be anyone with a half a brain trying to handle Scientology's PR these days.

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    NOLAGirl (Stephanie) Mat Pesch • 11 hours ago

    Kind of gives me the feeling they're trying hard to hold onto whoever they have. Given the shrinking numbers of the "fastest growing religion in the world" :D

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  29. Quentinanon Member

    Should we hold our breath until the USDOJ indicts the scientology crime syndicate for human trafficking?
    I do remember when the staff member would be "offloaded" because an outraged parent complained to the police and media. Hubbard did not want bad PR and police investigations. Evidently, the rules have recently changed.
  30. Malory Member

    Complete and utter speculation here, but isn't it possible that Rigina could have married a fellow Sea Orger and is now staying in the country legally?
  31. Video from News 31. Click the gear icon to set auto-translation, and CC icon to see translated captions. The story discusses not only the alleged Scientology fraud, but also the Scientology disconnection of Regina from her family.

    In several cities of Kazakhstan began the investigation into fraud



    Published on Jun 20, 2016

    At gunpoint adopters. In several cities of Kazakhstan began the investigation into the fraud on a large scale. Are defendants in the public association "Dianetics" and "self Center." They themselves call themselves for psychological care organizations, but law enforcement agencies do not exclude that this is just a cover.




  32. If I understand the news articles correctly, I believe she may have been married to a Kazakh before she came to the U.S. I could be wrong.

    In any event, I doubt she is in the US illegally. I suspect she is on an R-1 Religious Worker visa, and is within her initial period of authorized stay, or that such period has been extended. Just my guess.
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  33. I'm replying to my own comment because I found the News 31 text version of the story.

    http://www.31.kz/video/show/id/13428/show/ib/lang/ru

    Google translation:

    https://translate.google.com/transl...deo/show/id/13428/show/ib/lang/ru&prev=search

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    In several cities of Kazakhstan began the investigation into fraud

    20/06/16, 22:03

    At gunpoint adopters. In several cities of Kazakhstan began the investigation into the fraud on a large scale. Are defendants in the public association "Dianetics" and "self Center." They themselves call themselves for psychological care organizations, but law enforcement agencies do not exclude that this is just a cover.

    Danil Tylevich a former Scientologist himself, but now - one of the most ardent opponents, and most importantly - ready to talk about it, not hiding his face. He believed that Dianetics - the science of life. Therefore, when the spouses are having difficulty, and have adopted daughter kleilos mathematics, he turned into one of the centers of Scientology. Since then, the "registrars" began to appear frequently in their home.

    Tylevich Danilov, a resident of Almaty:

    - Loggers - these are people who are engaged ... that sell services to you, and a lot of money. They are a special amount of training, so that they can "close" to the service of almost any person.

    According to Daniel, he and his wife gave Scientologists 120 thousand dollars. Of these, half of the amount - for the Regina training in the United States. A year later, the couple realized that the services do not bring effect, and demanded the money back. Six months ago, 20-year-old Rigina called and said that the breaks all relations with his family.

    Tylevich Danilov, a resident of Almaty:

    - She said some metallic voice, we understand that it is simply zazombirovana. Because she, on their own, it is a child who with her mother had not talked since.

    Since then, the couple try Tylevich daughter back and your money. And Scientologists, according to Daniel, announced their suppressive persons - enemies. The main weapon - blackmail, because everyone coming into the ranks of adherents, "confessed." It is possible that Daniel Tylevich rights. The Internet does have a website with impartial information about his wife. In addition, some affected by Scientologists in different cities of the country have refused to give an interview, referring to the revenge of the sect. However, the police treated people.

    BAYAN Magzumova, spokesman for the Department of Internal Affairs of Pavlodar region:

    - Conducted obyskovye events with court approval at the place of operation of most of Dianetics, as well as in the community leaders, individual functionaries.

    This year, under the searches we have got several offices in different regions. Now the sights of the followers of Dianetics police in Almaty and Pavlodar: here, in spite of the investigation, the office is still working. Seeing the film crew, the director has caused the lawyer.

    Aliyah ALMUHAMBETOVA, correspondent:

    - Typically, the doors of the public association "Dianetics" are open to all, but today they were closed to reporters. Comment officially searches CBN and DIA are refused, citing the secrecy of the investigation.

    In Kazakhstan, the Church of Scientology is officially banned for five years. But the social and educational activities to engage followers of Dianetics prevent nobody can. Therefore, the country has some of their centers. Their ban intends to Danil Tylevich now he, along with other activists is preparing an application for holding a picket demanding the closure of the organization of Scientology.In several cities of Kazakhstan began the investigation into fraud

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  34. Kazakhstan carries significant losses as a result of destructive religious organizations,

    Liter KZ: Kazakhstan carries significant losses as a result of destructive religious organizations
    http://ttp://liter.kz/ru/articles/s...elnosti_destruktivnyh_religioznyh_organizacii

    Google translation:

    https://translate.google.com/transl...elnosti_destruktivnyh_religioznyh_organizacii

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    Kazakhstan carries significant losses as a result of destructive religious organizations

    May 27, 2016, Friday, 12:50 Alina Bekirova

    Thousands and millions of tenge. Mental disorders, health problems and suicide among citizens. Undermining confidence in the public system. Incitement to hatred of all kinds. Shattered family. This is the price for the fact that many religious organizations that are recognized as prohibited in the developed world in Kazakhstan given the freedom. A prime example are the so-called Church of Scientology.

    [SNIP]


    The history of the former Scientologist

    Kazakhstanets Danil Tylevich entered into an open confrontation with the so-called Church of Scientology, and encourages him to join those who have become the victim of this cult.

    - Entering the ranks of Scientology at 24 years, I have given this organization 10 years and 140 thousand dollars in the hope of getting services. However, at the end of last year, my family and I came out of Scientology, it never received. I realized that for many years we have been deceived, pulling one of us all the material and moral resources, and in return promised mythical freedom and even unique abilities - says Daniel Tylevich. - I got to the Scientologists, like the majority, through his friend, the businessman, who advised me to read a book called "Dianetics". At that moment I experienced an emotional crisis. And it seemed to me that in this book, I found answers to some of your questions.

    What attracted me to this organization? I was attracted to the goal Scientology: their goal of "a world without crime, war, violence and drugs, where honest beings can flourish, and the able can reach greater heights." Is not it a wonderful goal? Scientologists claim that they have the technology that this good goal is easily achievable. They convincingly demonstrate this by using manipulative films produced in Hollywood studios.

    According Tylevich, Scientology built a whole system of brainwashing. Adherents do not notice that with the advent of Scientology in their original goals are replaced on a single worthy aim - the spread of Scientology. They produced persistent paranoia and phobia against all institutions of society: family, education, healthcare, government and religion, psychology, law-enforcement agencies. Supposedly all this overwhelming structures that are designed to reduce the natural ability of man.

    And the only way to survive in this chaos gives Scientology and L. Ron Hubbard technology, which allows you to regain supernatural abilities that everyone has, but are hidden under the weight of pain and adverse experiences.

    In Scientology offers to pass the so-called Bridge to complete spiritual freedom - a sequence of levels (processes and services) for the full disclosure of the individual super-powers. The total cost of the Bridge is 380 thousand dollars, not counting the "voluntary" donations to charitable projects controlled by the "church" of the International Association of Scientologists (IAS). To get access to spiritual services, every Scientologist is obliged to pay membership lifelong member of the IAU, which cost him 5 thousand dollars. This is the initial level. Next the status of "chuck MAC", the cost of which - is 50 thousand dollars. And so on, up to the status, the value of which exceeds tens of millions of dollars. I know people in Kazakhstan who have donated to charitable projects MAC for several years up to a million dollars. But instead of charity collected the money directed solely at maintaining a life of luxury and cult leaders to fight like me - renegades, whom the world every year becomes more and more. The most conservative estimate, only in 2015, Kazakhstan was taken about $ 10 million in the head office of Scientologists in the United States.

    Scientology has been in Kazakhstan for 22 years. During this time, it flowed hundreds of millions of dollars, and promised no superpowers Kazakhstan Scientologist and not acquired. And again and again people offer to pass the regular course of self-improvement.

    - What opened my eyes? I had doubts before, but Scientology trap laid out perfectly. I was part of a team of 300 people, which we clean the Internet space of the CIS of the critical information about Scientology - says our interlocutor. - In Scientology it is strictly forbidden to watch any negative information about the "church", to deal with critics. A person who violates this provision, will be assigned to "confession" lie detector, which costs 10-15 thousand dollars, and he risks losing all privileges, and most importantly - the ability to receive spiritual services to the bridge and be excommunicated, that Adept the worst. Once I broke the ban and watched the film "Obsession", filmed the famous Hollywood director, who himself has been a Scientologist for 35 years. This film is a taboo in Scientology. I did not find in it any fact lies and this was the impetus for my exit.

    Who I issued an order declaring my submarine - "Suppressive Person" (ie, I got the same list with such enemies of humanity, as Hitler and Stalin). Scientologists with such people, like me, are allowed to do anything - to deprive the livelihood, slander, eliminated physically. There is plenty of evidence around the world that the Church of Scientology is practicing this kind of persecution of its critics and former adherents. But I consider it my duty to warn of the dangers of Kazakhstan, which lies in wait for them in the face of Scientology organizations.

    According to Daniel Tylevich in Kazakhstan are Scientologists 3000, of which about 500 active preachers recruiters. The most active mission in Almaty and Pavlodar, plans to open offices in Aktau, Karaganda, Kokshetau and Kaskelen. Total in Kazakhstan currently operates 20 active Scientology structures in areas such as business education: the company «Performia», «WISE», «Business School" esto "," Vysotsky consulting "," Prodavay.ru 'offices applied education: "ABLE", "clarifies the words of Kazakhstan", "learn to self-learn", public organization "The Way to Happiness Kazakhstan", "Center for self Improvement Almaty", "Volunteer Ministers", human rights organizations: Citizens commission on human Rights " PF Korgau the HR ", and" Youth for human rights ", the auditing several field groups« I-help », as well as organizations for the rehabilitation of drug addicts and convicted Narconon and Sriminon.

    According to Association research centers religions:

    In 2012, at the II Forum of Religions in Kazakhstan "Church of Scientology" recognized commercial entity. After this, the organization is no longer considered in our religious and to be registered as such.

    On the territory of Kazakhstan Scientology mission continues to exist in the face of its structural branches and its affiliated organizations registered as public: "The center of self-improvement", "Narconon", "Performia", "Rubicon", "Esto" business school "Studema" and many others. The most widely used these structures received in years. Almaty, Astana, Karaganda, Pavlodar, Semey.
    The danger indicate facts proven in court. Here are some of them:

    1. According to the International Service "Reuters" dated 22 November 1996, a court in Lyon (France) acknowledged in November 1996, Jean-Jacques Maz'ya, the former head of the French "Church of Scientology", guilty of murder.
    Patrice Vic and sentenced him to imprisonment. The court ruled against another 14 defendants associated with the "Church of Scientology", on charges of theft to outright fraud. Patrice Vic out of the window a day after Maz'ya allegedly visited him and demanded 30 thousand. Francs (about 6 thousand. USD) for the "cleansing" process.

    2. In 2001, six years of imprisonment sentenced by the court of Tsentralny district of Khabarovsk, head of the regional center of "Dianetics" Olga Ukhov. Such a punishment it handed over the illegal business and the "laundering" of funds in especially large sizes.

    3. There have been cases of detention by law enforcement bodies of Kazakhstan in October 2008, leaders of PO "Church of Scientology" in Almaty, who are suspected of engaging in illegal business activities by extracting considerable profit, tax-free. According to investigators, members of the organization engaged in systematic unlicensed educational and medical activities, removing a significant profit, tax-free.

    4. With the approval of the public prosecutor of Almaty at known addresses belonging Scientologists raided in which seized and impounded archive, where he kept a large number of files with personal information and confidential to the persons related to Scientology, as well as imported drugs illegally entered the country and have not passed certification in Kazakhstan. The financial records of the religious association is aimed at economic expertise in order to determine the extent of damage caused to the state.

    5. In November 2008, in Pavlodar against the center "Narconon" prosecuted. It turned out that "Narconon" center of illegally providing medical services for the treatment of drug addicts. The Centre does not have the necessary licenses and permits to carry out these types of services. At the time of checking the building "Narconon" Six patients were also various preparations are not registered in Kazakhstan were found, and medical instruments. The cost of one month of treatment at the center was about 300 thousand. Tenge. In addition, various religious books and documents showing communications center with the Church of Scientology were discovered in the building. On this fact with regard to "Narconon" center opened a criminal case under article 190, part 2 of the Criminal Code (illegal business activities associated with the extraction of income on a large scale, with the damage to citizens).

    - A number of foreign and domestic experts, Scientology's claim to be the sole source of truth engenders in its members be the expression of consciousness on the principle of "friend or foe", which sometimes leads to a break with their families and friends. For sick people activities CA and individual Scientologists means unreasonable refusal of timely and adequate medical care, health deterioration in the non-professional "auditing" procedures and "purification". And in patients and in healthy people who believed in Scientology, massively raises serious violation of personal and social well-being, suffering a career or study, there are severe forms of social dependence. In fact, Scientology imposed unregulated, uncontrolled and unprofessional use of various psycho and modifications without ensuring the rights and safety of clients, as well as unqualified and did not pass inspection and licensing of educational and medical services. For competitors and opponents of Scientology are virtually all major social institutions: science, education, medicine, family, the media and any government and law enforcement agencies, which do not allow Scientologists freely break the law - says Yulia Denisenko.

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  35. Someone claiming to be Danil has posted a comment on Tony's blog.

    http://tonyortega.org/2016/06/20/sc...ys-her-media-grabbing-mom/#comment-2740784997

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    Danil David • 12 hours ago

    Tony thank you and your Russian wing for such a quick reaction and for repost of our news on BringRiginaBack item. If any news on our daughter comes out, if anyone's seen her inside please let us know. Be free to get in touch with me on Facebook.

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  36. RightOn Member

    Great title for this story:
    "FROM RUSSIA WITH LOVE"
  37. RightOn Member

    The security woman that Regina is with looks so familiar. Was she "mining" another child in one of Xander's vids?
    A little girl was looking toward Xander and then the woman took her by the arm and led her away?
    Or am I mistaken?
  38. I posted this up-thread but will re-post because it answers your question.

    Mat Pesh on Tony's blog has more information. The responding comment is also interesting.

    http://tonyortega.org/2016/06/20/sc...ys-her-media-grabbing-mom/#comment-2740523554

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    Mat Pesch • 11 hours ago

    The woman that Regina is with in the picture is a long term Sea Org member in the Flag Service Organization (FSO). I think her name is Jean Alpers.
    It looks like the photo was taken at the Fort Harrison Hotel.
    I am surprised the Sea Org is holding onto Regina despite the bad PR. When I was there a little over 10 years ago the Sea Org would have offloaded Regina so as to avoid the bad PR. I worked with 2 different Sea Org members who were VERY valuable, 25 year veterans. The mother of one went to the press in Hungary and the son of the other made a stink in Clearwater. In both cases they were quickly kicked out of the Sea Org despite their protests. At that time there was a real effort to avoid bad PR. There doesn't seem to be anyone with a half a brain trying to handle Scientology's PR these days.

    ***************

    NOLAGirl (Stephanie) Mat Pesch • 11 hours ago

    Kind of gives me the feeling they're trying hard to hold onto whoever they have. Given the shrinking numbers of the "fastest growing religion in the world" :D

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