Scn does China

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  1. Anonymous Member

    Scn does China

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  2. Anonymous Member

    Re: Scn does China

    One wonders how one totalitarian regime will react to another totalitarian regime trying to gain a foothold in its country.
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  3. Anonynamefag Member

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  4. Anonymous Member

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    China doesn't take too kindly to foreign missionaries, especially from cults. They regularly deport religious workers who enter the country posing as "English teachers".
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    [ame=""]YouTube- Chinese Scientology Volunteer Ministers in Kinmen[/ame]
  6. Anonymous Member

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    Just play China the tape where Ron mentions Chinks.
  7. Anonymous Member

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    The place in video is an island right next to China (PRC), correct, but it belongs to Taiwan (ROC). TW scn is suffering as people go to ANZO for advance service and know what's happening there. Now the CCHR style press releases do not mention CCHR, not even the author's name, who claims to be a doctor. They have been working hard on translations, but I have no idea how they could achieve anything in PRC. There's only an APS English school in Shenzhen.
  8. Anonymous Member

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    Taiwan uses Traditional Chinese. Mainland China uses Simplified Chinese. So they probably won't be using the same book for both countries. It is, however, pretty easy to translate from one to the other as it's just a matter of substituting one set of signs with another with a computer.
  9. Anonymous Member

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    For Mainland China, they'll probably be using the same tactic as in Japan: Branding themselves as definitely not a religion and not a cult either.

    We do have Chinese chanologists, by the way. At least there are some anti-cult/anti-CoS blogs running in Chinese.
  10. Anonymous Member

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  11. DeathHamster Member

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    But but but, according to Scientology, "Taiwanese" is a separate language from Chinese! (mainly to support their Most Translated Author that the Guinness Book people swallowed.)

    "The languages in which books by L. Ron Hubbard are available include Afrikaans, Albanian, Amharic, Arabic, Armenian, Azeri, Basque, Belo Russian, Bengali, Brazilian, Bulgarian, Chinese, Croatian, Czech, Danish, Dari-Farsi, Dutch, Estonian, Farsi, Finnish, French, Georgian, German, Greek, Guarani, Hausa, Hebrew, Hindi, Hungarian, Icelandic, Indonesian, Italian, Japanese, Kannada, Kazakh, Khmer, Kirundi, Korean, Kyrgyz, Latvian, Lithuanian, Macedonian, Malayalam, Mexican, Mongolian, Nepalese, Norwegian, Polish, Portuguese, Punjabi, Romanian, Russian, Samoan, Serbian, Sinhalese, Slovak, Slovenian, Spanish, Swahili, Swedish, Tagalog, Taiwanese, Tamil, Thai, Turkish, Ukrainian, Urdu, Uzbek, Vietnamese, Xhosa and Zulu."

    I wonder which Chinese they plan to translate it into? Mandarin, Cantonese, other dialects...
  12. Vir Member

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    Written Chinese is a symbolic language. The same characters can be spoken differently by Cantonese and Mandarin speaking Chinese, but they both understand the same written language.

    As mentioned, on Taiwan they use a different, but similar, set of signs to write that language. Counting Traditional and Simplified Chinese as two different languages in terms of translations shouldn't really count unless everyone else were doing it. As far as I know, it's just a matter of clicking a button and swapping the signs.

    Now, when it comes to audiobooks, they would actually need to have different versions for Cantonese and Mandarin - and they'd be justified as counting them as two different languages too, if audiobooks count for translation numbers.
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  14. Anonymous Member

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  15. urbanhawk Member

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    well this could be good or bad. Either they gain a foothold in china or we get to laugh in their faces when they are distroyed.
  16. Scatman Member

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    Scientology was banned by the national government of the PRC over a decade ago. The people in that government are well aware of how scientology really operates.
    And by the way, anyone who has studied Buddhism knows that a comparison of similarities between Buddhism, a real religion, and scientology, a crime syndicate predicated on fraud, is laughable.
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  17. LR Ache Member

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    Dox of ban would be nice, to counter scilon current translation push.
  18. Scatman Member

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    That is from my personal knowledge of historical events. If you require dox, I suggest you write the Embassy of the PRC in Washington, D.C.
  19. willhaven720 Member

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    Falun Gong, take two...
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  20. Anonymous Member

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    Contact the Embassy. Tell him a cult much more destructive and harmful than Falun Gong is trying to make inroads into the country.

  21. DeathHamster Member

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    I wonder how the US State Department will react to being PA'ed into that fight.
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    I have a few ideas... And I'd love to see leaks of relevant internal memos if/when it becomes an issue.

    But seriously, I suspect the Translation Project is more fake-expansion. Scn is the sort of group who'd do a translation project for books they knew wouldn't sell, and claim that it's evidence of "explosive growth"
  23. Anonymous Member

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    As long as publics could be made to "donate" for it yeah.
  24. Scatman Member

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    That is not happening. The PRC government is now the largest single creditor holding U.S. government securities. In admiralty, debtors have no rights.
  25. FUCK Member

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  27. SeenTheLight Member

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  28. anonysamvines Member

    that should be funny but it isn't
    is it shoop or real?
    and if real more info please
  29. SeenTheLight Member

    It's real, but I don't have more info.
  30. Anonymous Member

    Why is her certificate in English?
    Me wonders if she was born in China, but lives somewhere else.
  31. anonysamvines Member

    good pick up anon
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  33. anonysamvines Member

    would be good for chinese gov't to be alerted to this, to do with as they will.
    Good find anon
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  36. Anonymous Member

    Leaks are leakee, however no one wants the Crap
  37. Anonymous Member

    And the number of people actually receptive to LRH?
  38. Anonymous Member

    They have OT8's from mainland China already, but probably got it in US and live in US. If they are talking about 1st ever clear, it would be talking about made in China. The guy who went there to make that was also the 1st ever to leave and denounce the church, on RightOn's list.

    The Chinese basics was late for at least a year. They sold it to newbies without revealing the full price. Then they demand the rest of the money. If you don't give it to them or want a refund, you will be interrogated by the whole mission staff. Of course if you don't want to be a Scientologists, you have no worries. So, they even frighten the rare raw meats into leaving.

    The infamous Chinese office dealing with cults already translated some critical articles on Scientology. France and Germany are often referenced for their methods in dealing with cults.

    Dianetics was translated back in 1983. It was sold out and then banned. Somehow it was classified as psychology therapy in libraries, probably Scn was not, and never, recognized as a religion. For this historical reason, Chinese versions of Dianetics is not classified as religion in Taiwan, but the English version is. This classification of the central library is used throughout, including elementary school libraries. (yes, they have donated Dianetics too.) I actually reported to RTC about the "insult". But I think DM like it because it suits them - to be whatever they want to be.

    They have one Scilon teaching English in Shenzhen. Now they are expanding?
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  39. mongrel Member

    I just love their obsession with numbers as somehow proving the "global expansion". Feed the deluded ronbots anything and they'll lap it up like dog vomit.

    1.3 billion may be the population of China, but they most certainly do not all have the same "native tongue". Major linguistic groups of china cannot communicate at all in their native languages. It's like saying Spanish and Italian are the same because they're both Romance languages.
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  40. Anonymous Member

    The written language is "unified" long ago. Just the writing style is different through generations. After the communists took over, all schools are provided by the state and all children speak Mandarin. Even in the remote Muslim regions along the silk road as seen in National Geo documentaries. :eek:
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