Seth Rich possibly behind the "hacked" emails was found dead recently...

Discussion in 'News and Current Events' started by spike anderson, Aug 3, 2016.


    DC’s Metropolitan Police Department tells Heat Street on Friday that there are “no updates” in the case. But while information from authorities may be scarce, the Internet has certainly taken Seth Rich’s story to some very dark places — despite no evidence to back up any of the reigning conspiracy theories.
    Shortly after the killing, Redditors and social media users were pursuing a “lead” saying that Rich was en route to the FBI that fateful morning, apparently intending to speak to special agents about an “ongoing court case” possibly involving the Clinton family.
    Further “investigation” dug up no such court case and there is no evidence whatsoever that Rich, who did voter outreach work for the DNC, had any knowledge of alleged Clinton misdeeds.
    More recently, Wikileaks’s thousands of DNC emails and voice mails have piqued Reddit’s interest, with Redditors combing through years of communications looking for any clue to Rich’s murder.
    Reddit’s pro-Donald Trump subreddit, /r/The_Donald posited that Rich could be the DNC’s “leaker” – the one who ultimately gave Wikileaks 30,000 emails to publish.

    This doesn't look know what..fuck it...there needs to be a call to arms. He was found with his wallet, keys, cellphone, there is no motive for his murder. I'm calling on everyone in the Anon community and beyond...this man put his life at risk to show people the truth...that elections are rigged...that the Clintons and most likely Trumps as well are pure evil.
    Find out what happened to this man!
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    Mother, Police Seeking Tips on Killing of DNC Staffer Seth Rich | NBC4 Washington


    The mother of the 27-year-old Democratic National Committee staffer shot and killed in his D.C. neighborhood last month is asking the public for help solving her son's murder.

    Mary Rich, the mother of Seth Conrad Rich, spoke Thursday afternoon on the block in the Bloomingdale neighborhood where her son was killed July 10. She and D.C. police chief Cathy Lanier asked anyone with information on the unsolved killing to come forward.

    Rich was shot multiple times on the 2100 block of Flagler Place NW. It is possible he was killed in an attempted robbery, Lanier said. The case remains under investigation.

    Rich, a Nebraska native, was a rising star in the DNC, colleagues said.


    Anyone with information on the shooting is asked to call police at 202-727-9099 or send a text message to 50411. A reward of as much as $25,000 is offered.
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  4. Quentinanon Member

    Shot multiple times means that the shooter intended to kill him.
    There are only three possible motives:
    Sexual relationship with a toxic person gone bad, bad people wanted his money and didn't get it, or revenge.
    Rule out the first two and this gets very interesting.

    And Hillary's statements about the shooting are rather interesting:
    "Clinton said in Portsmouth, N.H. “And so do the incidents that don’t even dominate the headlines. Just this past Sunday, a young man, Seth Rich, who worked for the Democratic National Committee to expand voting rights, was shot and killed in his neighborhood in Washington. He was just 27 years old.” Clinton went on to implore, “Surely we can agree that weapons of war have no place on the streets of America.”
    D.C. Police Chief Cathy L. Lanier, asked about Clinton’s comments about guns, said she would not comment on evidence, including what type of weapon was used in the shooting of Rich. Police said ballistic testing is still ongoing.
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    I watched a news video where his girlfriend reported that she heard shots while he was talking to her on his mobile phone.
    That seems to rule out a robbery where the robber demands money or goods first. The assailant just started shooting.
    So, that leaves sexual relationship gone very bad or revenge.
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    WikiLeaks’ Julian Assange Discusses Seth Rich & Sources |


    WikiLeaks’ founder Julian Assange gave an interview to Dutch television in which he discussed the Seth Rich murder case in Washington D.C. and would not confirm or deny whether Rich was a WikiLeaks’ source.

    However, WikiLeaks, as a matter of practice, does not confirm or deny its sources. The comments made by Assange – coming shortly before WikiLeaks announced a $20,000 reward in the Rich case – are drawing new attention to the homicide of the young DNC analyst.


    Assange: “Whistleblowers go to significant efforts to get us material, often very significant risks. There’s a 27-year-old that works for the DNC who was shot in the back, murdered, just two weeks ago, for unknown reasons as he was walking down the street in Washington. So…”

    Anchor: “That was just a robbery, I believe, wasn’t it?”

    Assange: “No, there’s no finding. So, ah – “

    Anchor: “What are you suggesting? What are you suggesting?”

    Assange: “I am suggesting that our sources, ah, take risks and they, they become concerned to see things occurring like that.”

    Anchor: “But was he one of your sources then, I mean?”

    Assange: “We don’t comment on who our sources are.”

    Anchor: “But why make the suggestion about a young guy being shot in the streets of Washington?”

    Assange: “Because we have to understand how high the stakes are in the United States. Our sources, ah, our sources face serious risks, that’s why they come to us so we can protect, ah, their anonymity.”

    Anchor: “But it’s quite something to suggest a murder. That’s basically what you are doing.”

    Assange: “Well, others have suggested that. We investigated to understand what happened in that situation, with Seth Rich. I think it is a concerning situation. There is not a conclusion yet. We wouldn’t be willing to say a conclusion yet, but we are concerned about it. More importantly, a variety of WikiLeaks sources are concerned when that kind of thing happens.”

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    EXCLUSIVE: Murdered DNC staffer was about to join Hillary Clinton presidential campaign, reveals father
    • Joel Rich, the father of Seth Rich, the DNC analyst murdered near his Washington DC home, says he has a hole in his life after his son's death
    • Rich said that there appeared to be a scuffle before Seth was shot
    • He said that his 27-year-old son was 'really excited' to move to Brooklyn and work for Hillary Clinton's campaign
    • Seth was talking on his cellphone with his girlfriend, Kelsey Mulka, when he was shot in the back on July 10
    • He and Mulka met when they worked at the same polling company in Washington, DC, several years ago, Rich's father said
    • Authorities offered a $25,000 reward for information about the crime
    • Wikileaks offered a separate $20,000 reward for information leading to a conviction in the murder
    • The Wikileaks reward generated speculation that Rich was responsible for the leak of DNC emails - speculation that has been vehemently denied by family and friends

    'We don't know if there's one person or two people - all we know is that there was a scuffle. Seth's watchband was torn, so somebody had tried to grab that.

    He added: 'We need more help - somebody was bruised, somebody's clothes are torn. Think about who that person is.'

    Joel, 68, also revealed to Daily Mail Online that four days before his death, Seth learned he had been chosen to work on Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign – a career triumph for a young man who spent his life dedicated to politics.

    He said: 'He'd worked on senate and house campaigns but he'd always wanted to work on a presidential campaign.

    'He had just found out they wanted him and he was probably going to be moving up to Brooklyn through the election. He was really excited about that.'

    Days later, on July 10, the 27-year-old was fatally shot in the back at 4:19am, a block from his home in the quiet Bloomingdale neighborhood of DC.

    Authorities have offered a $25,000 reward for information to help solve the crime.

    Last week, Wikileaks offered a separate $20,000 reward for information leading to a conviction in the murder, generating speculation that Rich was responsible for the leak of DNC emails. Seth's friends say that couldn't be further from the truth.


    The corner on which Rich was shot has had a number of attacks recently and police are looking into whether the murder and recent crime spree are linked.


    According to the DC Metropolitan Police Department, there were two robberies in the area in the hour prior to Rich's shooting.

    Over four days in June, a woman was carjacked and three people were robbed at gunpoint on Flagler Place, close to where Rich was shot.

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  10. RavenEyes Member

    Seth Rich has nothing to do with Anonymous vs Scientology. Why is this thread in this section?
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  12. Quentinanon Member

    But no report that anything was stolen from Rich. Torn watchband does not mean anyone attempted to steal it. Watches have to be sold to get any money which can be traced back to the victim and incriminate the perpetrator. Other robberies in the geographic area does not mean that Rich was the victim of an attempted robbery.
    How can anyone factually deny that Rich had anything to do with email leaks? Do they watch him 24/7?
    I think the explanation offered is b.s. spin.
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  13. The Internet Member

    But if I leaked a bunch of emails from the DNC, I would prefer to remove myself from those I'd just betrayed. Instead this guy goes to work for Clinton.

    Anyway the cybersecurity people who investigated tell us the Russians were all up in the DNC shizzle for at least a year.

    I find Assange's behavior lately truly strange. Reminds me of Marty and Monique when they fired their attorney and dropped their lawsuit against COS. Like Marty, Assange hints at stuff without saying what he means.

    If Seth Rich leaked to Assange and Assange was concerned about this playing some role in his murder, I would expect Assange to say something like, "We protect our sources. But in this case our source is beyond harm. Thus I'm going to share everything I can with investigators concerning my interactions with Mr. Rich in the hope that his murderers will be brought to justice."
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    Judge orders expedited release of 15,000 Hillary Clinton documents found by FBI | CBS News


    At a heated hearing Monday, a federal judge pressed the State Department on when it would release the 15,000 documents uncovered by the FBI during its investigation of Hillary Clinton’s private email server.

    Initially, the State Department attorney would not answer Judge James Boasberg’s repeated questions about the number of emails recovered by the FBI. The judge urged the State Department to expedite its review of what is called “Disc 1,” which is one of two discs handed over from FBI to the State Department in late July.

    The soonest these emails will be released to the public is early October, a few weeks before the November elections.

    These are all emails that Clinton sent or received during her tenure as secretary of state, and they were not among the 55,000 documents turned over by her lawyers last year. The conservative judicial watchdog Judicial Watch has filed several Freedom of Information Act lawsuits against the State Department for material from Clinton’s time as secretary of state. The group is keenly interested in Disc 1 because the information on it relates directly to Clinton.

    FBI Director James Comey had said at the conclusion of the FBI’s probe into the use of her server that the agency had found thousands of emails on her server that were work-related and that had not been submitted to the State Department. Comey, while referring to Clinton and those she corresponded with as “extremely careless” in their handling of classified information, also said that there was no evidence that emails were “intentionally deleted in an effort to conceal them.” Rather, he said she “periodically deleted e-mails or e-mails were purged from the system when devices were changed.”

    The State Department is vetting the emails to see whether they deem any of them are private and personal before releasing the rest.

    On Friday Clinton scored a minor victory against Judicial Watch when a judge said she could answer questions from Judicial Watch lawyers in writing and did not have to be deposed. Her answers are not due until after the election.


    WikiLeaks ‏@wikileaks 46 minutes ago
    Bombshell set to hit Clinton campaign as FBI recovers 14,900 deleted emails.
    We will incorporate them into:
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    Seth Rich wasn’t just another DC murder victim – he was a meme in the weirdest presidential election of our times | The Independent

    When Democratic National Committee employee Seth Rich was murdered during the weirdest election of our times, he, his family and co-workers became the target of online sleuthers convinced they could crack a conspiracy by solving his murder.

    'Who Murdered Seth Rich?': Billboards, Ads to be Posted in Search of Killer | NBC4 Washington

    More than six months after a Democratic National Committee staffer was shot to death in Northwest D.C., billboards and advertisements are set to go up throughout the District in the hopes of finding his killer.
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  16. unless Rich gave it to someone else or anonymously in which case Wikileaks wouldnt know who the TRUE source is for sure. But, alas someone found out....or Rich was asking too many questions....
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  17. The Internet Member

    So far there is no evidence that Rich was leaking anything. There's no evidence that his murder was part of some grand conspiracy. His family are pretty upset with all the baseless speculation. So I think we should not moonbat this. If something juicy turns up later we can look into that but until then, leave this family alone.
  18. Zak McKracken Member

    I think we should do everything in our power to destroy the Clintons,
    because they are indeed the Anti Christ, no?
  19. The Internet Member

    Sadly the Clintons passed away peacefully on November 8th 2016.
  20. Zak McKracken Member

    If I find any of President Trump's 3.5 million missing votes, I'll let you know.
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    The life and death of the Seth Rich conspiracy theory

    By David Weigel, The Washington Post, May 24, 2017


    When Seth Rich’s Gmail account received an alert this week from, attempting to start a new account on a website created by the New Zealand-based Internet businessman and convicted hacker Kim Dotcom, his family knew that something was off.

    Over seven frenzied days, Dotcom had become a leading purveyor of the theory that Rich, a staffer at the Democratic National Committee who was shot dead near his home in Northeast Washington last summer, had supplied DNC documents to WikiLeaks and was killed as a result. Multiple security analysts and an FBI investigation have tied the release to hackers with ties to Russia. D.C. police have said repeatedly that they think Rich was slain in a random robbery attempt.

    According to experts and Rich’s family, the emailed invitation from appeared to be an attempt to gain access to Rich’s email. Joel Rich, who maintains his late son’s Gmail account, did not click the link. Meanwhile, Dotcom was promising on Twitter to prove that the younger Rich had been in contact with WikiLeaks — and Fox News host Sean Hannity was telling his 2.37 million Twitter followers to be ready for a revelation.

    Hannity had invited Dotcom to appear on his show for what he said on Twitter would be a “#GameChanger” interview. The implication: that Dotcom would finally offer evidence of his claim that Rich had sent internal DNC documents to WikiLeaks before his death.

    All that began to unravel Tuesday afternoon, when Fox News retracted a story that had claimed the same Rich-WikiLeaks connection, telling readers that the article was “not initially subjected to the high degree of editorial scrutiny we require for all our reporting.” Fox News did not respond to a request for comment, but Dotcom wrote on his website that he would not speak further about his allegations.

    The latest revelation — that a hacker from New Zealand may have been trying as recently as this week to hack into Rich’s email — offered fresh evidence that the conspiracy theory is false. Dotcom, it seemed, may have been willing to create a fake archive of emails from Rich to “prove” his role in the DNC hack.

    “It looks like someone set up a fake Gmail account, then used that Gmail account to create the Mega account,” said James Lewis, cybersecurity expert and a senior vice president at the Center for Strategic and International Studies. “This part is pretty standard. Mega then checks with Gmail to see if the account exists, which is Mega’s somewhat cheesy way of authenticating identity. You then get to set up the Mega account. It’s a system designed to enable pseudonyms and fake identities.”, a data security company that Dotcom founded, did not respond to a request for comment.

    The episode also demonstrated how fake news can be flung from fringe media to the mainstream. A conspiracy theory that began on pro-President Trump message boards — a theory that Rich was actually a mole who wanted to expose corruption at the DNC — was fed by Russian news outlets including RT and Sputnik. The Daily Mail, Fox News’s website and a number of other mainstream outlets with large audiences churned through false information and leading questions, sowing confusion that Rich’s family struggled to combat. In addition to Hannity, former House speaker Newt Gingrich on Sunday said on “Fox and Friends” that the story was worth investigating, a sentiment he repeated in a short interview with The Washington Post on Tuesday.

    “I don’t know anything about it,” Gingrich said. “I know exactly what has been said on the various blog sites . . . I think it is worth looking at.”

    In a statement, Rich’s family told The Post that they wereinvestigating whether someone attempted to gain access to Rich’s email account. “We are outraged that certain individuals continue to try to use Seth’s name and memory to advance their political and ideological agendas,” they said. “We hope people will think twice the next time someone makes an outlandish claim to have discovered new evidence in this case.”

    A family spokesman went further, criticizing Fox News for fanning the flames.

    “We are hopeful that in the future that Fox News will work with the family to ensure the highest degree of professionalism and scrutiny is followed so that only accurate facts are reported surrounding this case,” said Brad Bauman, a progressive communications strategist working with the Rich family.

    Dotcom did not respond to an emailed question about the Mega account, but his story about Rich has altered since some attention-grabbing tweets. On May 16, he mentioned Rich for the first time, after a follower asked what he thought of the conspiracy theory that Rich was tied to the release of thousands of internal DNC documents.

    On May 19, Dotcom asked for Google to release the contents of Rich’s Gmail account, as well as two accounts that online sleuths had claimed belonged to him.

    Later that day, Dotcom said that he was willing to “give written testimony with evidence” that Rich had passed the DNC documents to WikiLeaks.

    That attracted the interest of Hannity, who had devoted several segments of his radio and TV show to the conspiracy theory. Dotcom then claimed that he would be able to reveal what he knew after talking to lawyers.

    But in a Tuesday message that Dotcom posted on his website, he claimed only to know that “Seth Rich was involved” in the DNC hack, and that he would give his full statement after a “guarantee from Special Counsel [Robert S.] Mueller, on behalf of the United States, of safe passage from New Zealand to the United States and back.”

    “I know this because in late 2014 a person contacted me about helping me to start a branch of the Internet Party in the United States,” Dotcom said. “He called himself Panda. I now know that Panda was Seth Rich. Panda advised me that he was working on voter analytics tools and other technologies that the Internet Party may find helpful.”

    Dotcom provided no evidence to corroborate this. “We are unaware of any contact between Seth and Kim Dotcom and are not aware of Seth ever discussing the need for an ‘Internet Party,’ ” Rich’s family said in a statement.

    Dotcom had made similarly grandiose claims before. In 2014, Dotcom claimed to have email evidence that motion picture industry executives conspired with New Zealand’s government to send him to the United States, where he could be charged with several crimes. He organized a high-profile event, “the Moment of Truth,” days ahead of the New Zealand election. His guests talked about government spying; Dotcom drew attention to the email, which the studio decried as fake.

    There would be another shot at the spotlight when Hannity and other conservative media figures asked whether Rich could be linked to WikiLeaks, thereby proving that there had been no Russia-linked hacking of the DNC. On Hannity’s show, a private investigator named Rod Wheeler, who had been paid by a conservative donor to investigate the murder, retracted his claim that Rich’s laptop was in FBI custody and contained evidence of a WikiLeaks connection. Neither allegation was true, according to Rich’s family.

    “We know that Seth’s personal email and his personal computer were both inspected by detectives early in the investigation and that the inspection revealed no evidence of any communications with anyone at WikiLeaks or anyone associated with WikiLeaks,” Rich’s parents wrote in a column published Tuesday evening by The Post.

    Yet for days, Fox News declined to correct or remove a story claiming that Rich’s “emails are in possession of the FBI, while the stalled case is in the hands of the Washington Police Department.” The story, published on May 16 by Fox reporter Malia Zimmerman, contained specific details of what had been done and what had been covered up, citing a “federal investigator” in reporting that Rich “made contact with WikiLeaks.”

    WikiLeaks’s Julian Assange had persistently fed rumors of a connection with Rich without providing evidence. He has offered a $20,000 reward for information about Rich’s killer, and he has used an interview with Dutch television, an interview with Hannity and several tweets to suggest that Rich’s case showed why WikiLeaks sources tread carefully. He has never explicitly said whether Rich was a source.

    Zimmerman did not answer emails or a phone call about her story, which Fox retracted in its entirety on Tuesday.

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    Read: Independent group releases new report on Seth Rich's murder investigation | WJLA


    A new report has been released by an independent group on the investigation into the death of DNC worker Seth Rich, who was murdered last July in DC.

    Rich's killer remains on the loose, and for months now a group of George Washington University grad students, called the Profiling Project, have been digging into the case.

    The Profiling Project released their initial report on the investigation Tuesday in press conference. Read the full report here:

    The Profiling Project is an independent, nonpartisan unit comprised of forensic experts and George Washington University graduate students who have been investigating the murder of Seth Rich.

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  23. The Internet Member

    Fishy smell. Like an OP to keep a conspiratorial feeling alive because then the Russians did not do the DNC thing.
    Family treated like shit:
  24. The Internet Member

    Oh look Jack Burkman is a PR hack who will say crazy shit in public if you pay him enough:

    Jack Burkman: ‘The Homosexual Movement In This Country’ Is Fundamentally ‘Predatory’


    By Kyle Mantyla | July 22, 2015 11:03 am

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