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So, what happens if the cult is not guilty in this case?

Discussion in 'Jett Travolta' started by number 6, Jan 5, 2009.

  1. number 6 Member

    So, what happens if the cult is not guilty in this case?

    What do we do?
  2. cubby Member

    Re: So, what happens if the cult is not guilty in this case?

    call me crazy but i don't think a suit is going to be brought against the CoS for this one
  3. TheBitch Member

    Re: So, what happens if the cult is not guilty in this case?

    Not a damn thing but keep on digging. If they said the sun rose in the East, I'd still fact check that shit.

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  4. Re: So, what happens if the cult is not guilty in this case?

    Wonder who'll bring it, though.

    I don't for a second believe that they're going to find any trace of meds.
  5. Skeptic1337 Member

    Re: So, what happens if the cult is not guilty in this case?

    Guilty in what case?
  6. basil Member

    Re: So, what happens if the cult is not guilty in this case?

    There's two solutions to it all. It doesn't matter how Jett died, really.

    1) Travolta knowingly withheld medication - he's guilty and we highlight their view on medication and list the people killed because of the teachings.

    2) Travolta gave medication against the teachings of the cult - we highlight how the cult are against medication, and if he'd followed the teachings exactly, Jett would probably have died earlier, and list the people killed because of the teachings. We can also highlight how flawed the teachings are if one of their most public figures doesn't feel he can follow his 'religion's beliefs.
  7. Re: So, what happens if the cult is not guilty in this case?

    The cover story is already half written. They are saying he WAS on the appropriate meds, but of course none are in his system any more because a doctor advised he stop taking them because of the damage being caused. I predict a verdict of accidental death.

    It will be interesting to find out mor on the Kawasaki Syndrome story though.

    Edit- Either way Sci comes out smelling very bad, as posted above.
  8. Re: So, what happens if the cult is not guilty in this case?

    There is no law suit, so I dont imagine there will be an "after".

    Pretty much what Basil said though, this is going to have good implications for us one way or another
  9. amaX Member

    Re: So, what happens if the cult is not guilty in this case?

    Anonymous carries on 24/7.
  10. Consensus Member

    Re: So, what happens if the cult is not guilty in this case?

    http://forums.whyweprotest.net/298-...ta-situation-not-test-scientology-tech-35322/

    What 'case'? This isn't an experiment to determine whether or not Scientology tech is valid. We know it's not. This is a question of how much Scientology's teachings affected the outcome. Even if the answer is 'not at all', that doesn't change the fact that SCIENTOLOGY TECH IS NOT VALID.
  11. Top Grunge Member

    Re: So, what happens if the cult is not guilty in this case?

    haha, there will be no case.

    Continue fighting the good fight.

    We deff have proof now that Scientology cannot get rid of its connection to us now. Scilon in the news, WWP hits go through the roof.

    Put simply in a Jim Henson shout out.

    We are the skeksis to their mystics. Now send out the Gartham and the fucking crystal bats!!
  12. Barbedanon Member

    Re: So, what happens if the cult is not guilty in this case?

    If nothing else, this incident has shined a spotlight on the "church" and its methods they never could have wanted. It's far worse than the South Park episode where the whole Xenu thing was mocked, today hundreds of thousands (perhaps millions) of people are learning about their dangerous views about autism and the psychiatric community who had no idea as of last Thursday.

    And even among those who already knew how disgusting they are, it has opened up a whole new world of source material and avenues to fight back (for instance, I was very familiar with anonymous, but had never been to this forum before yesterday. Now I'm on board).

    Anonymous thus far has been really good at not jumping the gun, but reacting to actions as they come. Maybe by the end of today we'll know a little more about the public face of this story, and I expect the group will react accordingly.
  13. Re: So, what happens if the cult is not guilty in this case?

    fuck this is hard.

    i don't know if i can do this.

    damn...

    *grits teeth*

    okay, here goes:

    What Basil said.
  14. mefree Member

    Re: So, what happens if the cult is not guilty in this case?

    lol
  15. pardmepard Member

    Re: So, what happens if the cult is not guilty in this case?

    In the court of public Opinion

    WIN

    24/7

    No body said this will happen over night.

    brick by brick, the CULT is being dismantled.
  16. XenuLovesU Member

    Re: So, what happens if the cult is not guilty in this case?

    Given how the CCHR has slammed Depakote in their propaganda, the CoS is in a real bind when it comes to trying to spin this one.

    If this were any other celebrity's kid, you know they'd be screaming bloody murder that Depakote was responsible for his demise. Look! Bad Evil Drug killed another Innocent Child. WHAT ABOUT THE CHILDREN?! Damn psyches!

    Can't risk royally pissing off JT with that now, can they? I'm sure, in private, some Scilons are going to tsk-tsk to themselves and blame the meds and psyches... but good luck getting any mileage out of it publicly.

    tl;dr they're fucked.
  17. SwordSworn Member

    Re: So, what happens if the cult is not guilty in this case?

    We have to be careful here. They used a mentally ill child and a tragedy similar to this to push their crusade against phych drugs, and they were met by disgust lest we not do the same. The tract I propose is simple we do use the media opportunity this provides to attack there beliefs in regards to medication, but at no time do we speculate that Jett befell the same fate. We cannot disgrace his memory by black PRing the Travolta family this might just have woke them up.

    Though if proof is provided for neglect FIRE THE GODDAMN HARPOONS

    Edit- This death is tragic and I feel in many ways scientology was involved but, like any good investigator when all else fails give the mobster(Scientology) life for tax fraud(Bat shit crazy beliefs) if you can't get him for murder.
  18. basil Member

    Re: So, what happens if the cult is not guilty in this case?

    It's ok... go take your meds now, it'll all be better soon.
  19. Badiedum Member

    Re: So, what happens if the cult is not guilty in this case?

    The Cult of $cientology is guilty.

    Two of their brainwashed followers, worldfamous actors, neglected their poor -now dead- kid proper help, due to Hubbards failing tech.

    It is known how they are against properly working med's/ proper treatment. CCHR, and other lunatics, as a small example.


    This past year Anonymous has collected SHITLOADS of information, and the oldtimers years before Anon crawled out of the shadows.

    Time to put it to good use? Yes, I think so. FWIW.

    http://forums.whyweprotest.net/15-media/media-blitz-time-nao-press-anons-get-here-35355/

    It's time to give the miserable midget, David Miscavige, some more paranoia, before he meets his future husband Bubba.
    And while we are at it, drain some more dollahs from them.

    The knowledge is free, and available for all. Combine it, strike them where it hurts. On all fronts, that is.
  20. Re: So, what happens if the cult is not guilty in this case?

    Who cares? According to the CoS, bad things like accidents and illness don't happen around OTs, especially high level ones. And high level OT supporters of the CCHR certainly would never give their son banned psych medications because their OT powers failed to handle his ruin, right?


    ...right?


    DRIVE THOSE POINTS HOME.
  21. Mutante Member

    Re: So, what happens if the cult is not guilty in this case?

    What happens is, people who know the truth about Jett's medical history sell their stories to the press and Google keeps redirecting journalist to WWP if we have the right material here, structured in the right way.
  22. TheBitch Member

    Re: So, what happens if the cult is not guilty in this case?

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  23. orly Member

    Re: So, what happens if the cult is not guilty in this case?

    Oh, now that's tasteless, TheBitch.

    ...

    I lolled.
  24. auchraw Member

    Re: So, what happens if the cult is not guilty in this case?

    Of course the cult is guilty in this case and in every other case. We now know of thousands of cases - the Web is littered with sites that name the victims - and Scientology is guilty in all of them. Even if no members had ever died because medication or treatment was withheld Co$ would be guilty of publishing, selling, teaching and enforcing dangerous unscientific gobbledegook. Practising medicine without a licence is a crime in many countries, even if you don't kill people.

    Edit: an old but still hair-raising list of names http://www.skeptictank.org/hs/dps-cos.htm
    or Google 'Death Psychosis and Scientology'.
  25. Oswald2001 Member

    Re: So, what happens if the cult is not guilty in this case?


    Don't need a suit.

    Enough bad PR and enough Public Awareness can bring The Evil Cult to it's knees.

    Hopefully, it will save some lives down the road.

    Hopefully, some Cult parents will keep the kids on meds if they need them.

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