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Taiwan Dianetics Center is booming, gives lots of seminars to schools and businesses

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  1. OTBT Member

    A Taiwanese blogger for the local Dianetics Center has a website with lots of photos. Google Translate helps decipher the text somewhat, but the photos don't need much translation.

    The Taiwan Dianetics Center at Hualien City National Nine Street 50 seems to be booming. They have been giving assorted seminars to schools and businesses, and the seminars seem to be pretty well attended. This includes, Dianetics Seminars, Communication Seminars, Way To Happiness Seminars, Problems of Work Seminars, all the usual intro Scientology crap.

    You can start browsing around the photo collection here:

    http://tw.myblog.yahoo.com/wen2801.tw/gallery?fid=-1&page=1

    http://translate.google.com/transla...&u=http://tw.myblog.yahoo.com/wen2801.tw/

    Here's a few sample photos of seminars given to various businesses.

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    China Industry and Commerce - Dianetics Seminar


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    China Industry and Commerce - Dianetics Seminar


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    Create success - Shin Kong Life Insurance


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    Fubon Life Insurance Lecture


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    Nan Shan Life Insurance


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    Release of pressure and communication - Nan Shan Life Insurance


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    Polaris Securities - workplace stress


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    Florists Dianetics


    workplacestressandcommu.jpg

    Workplace stress and communication - Granite States


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    Tzu Chi and communication school workplace stress


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    Workplace stress and communication


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    Problems and Conditions


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    Dianetics Taiwan
  2. OTBT Member

    Samples of photos from lectures at public schools.

    waytohappiness.jpg

    Way to Happiness


    centralplainselementary.jpg

    Central Plains Elementary School parent forum


    chunghsiaoelementarysch.jpg

    Chung Hsiao Elementary School


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    Freshmen Parent Forum - Peipu Elementary School


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    Kang Yueguo promotion of small emotional reasons


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    South Elementary School Speech


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    Yichang Elementary School Speech
  3. OTBT Member

    Hello to any lurking Taiwanese scientologists.

    Here is a summary of OT 1 to OT 8 in Mandarin, condensed from Wikileaks. A Taiwanese critic named Cenu posted this critical summary on a Scientology Facebook page. It includes Xenu story, Body Thetans, etc.

    This is the stuff that Dianetics and Scientology will not tell you until you have paid hundreds of thousands of dollars.

    運作中的希坦一至八級(Operating Thetan I - VIII)的完全經文,可以在維基泄密(wikileaks.org)找到,但網址暫時在改建中。在此之前 ,詳細的摘要在菲什曼的誓章中(The Fishman Affidavit),也是法庭紀錄,是山達基首席律師確認是真正的。

    菲什曼的誓章後來被法庭封鎖了,但荷蘭作家 Karin Spaink 貼在她的網址,經過多年官司,荷蘭法庭判她勝訴。美國法庭判定這些經文不算是商業秘密,但受到版權保護,所 以公平引用的摘要是絕對合法的。

    山達基教會警告,若不跟從正當步驟讀經文,會染肺炎而死。但這樣死的從沒有聽聞,本人可以作活 生生的例證。

    但山達基人偷看經文是重罪,你們是過不了測謊機的(E-meter),看過了必然斷送了你們的自由之路。事實上,偷看過了而不爆的(blow=離教),教會不會放 過你這個金蛋。

    這個摘要,是根據菲什曼誓章,Stacy Brooks 的透視,和 Maria Pia Gardini 誓章,加上「Mrs Smith」的翻譯,但非山達基人看到了全文也完全不知道是什麼回事,沒頭沒腦的,其他人的解說也不完整, 因為有些概念很難簡短形容,山達基詞彙不可以用普通詞彙解釋,而且有些人完成了某OT級後,也不知道它是什 麼,教會說通過了便通過了。

    這些經文可能有多個版本,教會也有新舊之分。經文是教會最高機密,是不能離開課室的,個人的回憶不盡相同。 可以帶走的資料也不能給任何人看到。所以外人不可以確認那是正確版本。菲什曼的版本是最早公開的,與後期的 不甚相同,他也不是深資山達基人,只是從別人手中得到經文,但只有他的版本被山達基律師確認。

    OTI

    教會說第一步是要以新鮮的觀點看這個物質宇宙和其它眾生。菲什曼說有三個版本,最新的只有一個「看人」的指 令,執行直到有認知(cognition)。瑪麗亞說是那真是胡扯蛋,就是你自己一個人走來走去,去「看到 」一些東西。她走到咖啡店磨時光,回去說有覺新(wins)便完成了。

    OTII

    教會說這級解鎖整個時間軌跡(億兆年的宇宙歷史)中偏差錯亂的因素,這些因素使希坦(精神個體)失去天生的 自由。

    偏差錯亂是因為你的希坦在億兆年的宇宙歷史中曾經被「強制性植入」(implants)。你會拿到一張列出 長長的植入表單,包括電擊植入、言語植入等等。你必須深入時間軌跡,一個個把這些植入處理掉。這是在獨自聽 析中完成,聽析中你必須大聲的跟自己講話。 開始聽析時,你必須在時間軌跡上想到光點的出現,然後從那光點去找植入事件,儀表(E-meter)上的讀數確認事件的發生,然後解讀儀表上的指針動作, 來來回回的以「兩分法」(或分裂 dichotomies)處理植入事件, 磨掉(run)它們。

    OTIII 火之牆

    教會說這一級獨自聽析藏著宇宙的秘密,你面對並剷除一直困擾著這個宇宙千萬年的人類心理障礙,一旦完成,被 「時間軌跡壓倒」纏住了的你,可以解放出來。開始這級之前,要簽棄權書,大意是可能發生到你的身體或精神上 的任何事件,山達基組織、其分支機構和成員,一切不負責。

    瑪麗亞是科幻小說迷,早已唸過了,內容跟一本羅恩賀伯特的科幻小說很相似,差點兒拍成好萊塢電影。「銀河系 大魔頭」基努(Xenu),在七億五千萬年前為了解決人口過剩問題,把大量外星人捕捉,掉入地球的火山中, 用原子彈炸得魂魄四散,然後把我們看到的所為現實,花幾星期時間植入這些東西的腦子,之後這些支離破碎的破 希坦(Body Thetan,簡稱 BT)便吸附在人類的肉身上面。誰人若是覺察到「現實」只是灌輸,是會觸發自動毀滅程式,只有羅恩賀伯特發 明的技術,可以打破了這個程式。

    聽析時,你必須跟你身上的破希坦講話,你想著不同的地方,儀表的指針讀數會告訴你破希坦是否在那兒,然後要 它們離開你的身體,再找不到破希坦便通過這級。

    OTIV

    教會說這級處理在你整個時間軌跡上,由藥物和毒品所引起的潛在問題。

    這級要處理「破希坦團塊」( Body Thetan Clusters)。你現在要處理整個時間軌跡裡的藥物,還有你身上破希坦所服的藥物,這些破希坦在你做完 OTIII之後還沒走光,因為他們有嗑過藥。

    OTV

    教會說新OTV是第二度火之牆,對付使你不能抵達完全自由境界的最後障礙。

    原來一切也是破希坦,你的思維、愛、腳趾、鞋、月亮。這些破希坦跟團塊是沉睡型的,你必須把它們喚醒,然後 賦予它們身分地位,這樣它們就會走開了。

    OTV 是這樣做的,聽析員的指令:「觀看你的身體(不是用肉眼),找出破團塊。」當聽析員在電儀表上讀到指數時他 又問:「在哪裡?」你回答:「在膝蓋上。」然後,你必須用心電感應式的交流與那隻破希坦溝通,無聲問它說: 「你是什麼東西?」破希坦可能回答你說:「香蕉。」於是你告訴聽析員「香蕉」。

    有時候答案可能是「一張紙」之類的其他答案,反正你想到什麼就說什麼。聽析員得到答案後又說:「好,告訴它 『你就是香蕉。』」也就是說,香蕉就是它的身分。於是你告訴破希坦它是一根香蕉,在這時它應該就會走開了, 或是它想繼續留在那裡。 如果它在你問「你是什麼東西?」時沒有離開的話,你就問「你是誰?」然後你向破希坦收集了一大串名字:那破 倫,凱薩大帝,約翰屈伏塔……你一一告訴聽析員,他告訴你哪個名字有讀數,那就是破希坦的身分,得到示意後 的破希坦就會離開,打走所有破希坦便完成OTV

    OTVI

    教會說這級是下一級獨自聽析的訓練,因為非常之強勁,所以自成一級。

    這一級又是破希坦跟破團塊!而且跟OTV的指令一樣,就是那兩項「你是什麼」還有「你是誰」,但是自己親自 來做聽析的。

    OTVII

    教會說這級需要長時間,在家中每日獨自聽析。

    這個等級的正果(the end phenomenon) : 各式各樣的破希坦都不存在,沒有昏睡型的、沒有嗑藥的……什麼都沒有,其中一項是壓抑類型的破希坦(sup pressive BTs)

    打走破希坦的方法跟OTVVI是一樣的,不相同的只是一手握雙鑵,破希坦走了儀表指針會浮的。你身體上的 破希坦若是全走了,你的身體在你看來是半透明的。

    有時候,你會遇到破希坦從你身上飄到大門旁邊,你必須想像出一把剪刀,剪掉他與你身體之間的連線。有時候, 你會有層層重疊的破希坦,所以呢,你必須想像出一雙手來把他們揮掉。

    這時你知道,整個宇宙也是破希坦,山達基目的是使整個宇宙消失,一個人怎樣努力也打不走所有破希坦,所以要 地球所有人幫忙。因此阻礙山達基 的人必然要用任何手段消除,因為整個宇宙受到威脅,全地球,所有人億萬年的命運,決定於你現時在這兒做什麼 。因此為甚麼羅恩賀伯特建立了監護人辦事處,把所有政府及敵對的社會轉為完全遵守山達基的規則

    很多人獨自在房間內打破希坦,每日數小時,有十五年之久。這些人被剝奪了所有自己的感覺, 他們已經失去了責任感事實上,失去所有與自己情緒的接觸,自己的想法,連自己的希望和願望。它們已成為沉 溺於不負責任,生活於幻想世界的人。他們真正相 信一個怪誕的未來,其最終目標是山達基世界,這個世界上,每個不同意山達基的人將會靜靜地、沒有悲傷地被除 去。

    OTVIII 真相大白

    教會說這級獨自聽析,對付時間軌跡上失憶的主要原因,並讓你一見你自己的存在真相。

    OTVIII有數個版本,菲什曼的被稱為「耶穌愛好男孩和男生」版,山達基律師初時指出這文件是侵權,即是 真正的,但後來改口說這是假的。

    其它的版本與瑪麗亞口述的類似,裡面指出:「你編做了(mocked up)你自己的反應式心靈,你編做了你自己的破希坦,你編做了你自己的前生。」裡面包括羅恩賀伯特的斷言( affirmation):「現在知道過去的我不是我,有興趣找尋真的我是誰。」

    基本上,OTVIII 是要你照著 「人類歷史 (History of Man)這本書裡的題目做聽析,一直從進化軌跡回到蛤蜊(clams)時代,因為人類是由蛤蜊進化成的。你 必須要在時間軌跡裡一路做,回到蛤蜊時代為止,斷定過失行為(overt),然後找出破希坦。

    你要用心電感應方式與破希坦溝通,找出它的過失、寫下來、然後用電儀表問破希坦:「這是你做的嗎?」「這是 我做的嗎?」如果有讀到指數,你就示意那是誰的過失,使指針浮動,就這樣繼續做……結果你會幫時間軌跡裡的 所有破希坦們清掉所有的過失。這就是所謂的真相大白。

    .

    For Non-Taiwanese, a rough English translation is posted here:

    http://www.forum.exscn.net/showpost.php?p=506708&postcount=10
  4. Anonymous Member

    This is a good record of downstat. The number of incidents fell sharply since 2008. World news filtered through gradually into this rather remote region, also the home of Narconon Taiwan.
  5. OTBT Member

    Thanks, I would be very happy if I was wrong in the OP, and Taiwan Dianetics is no longer booming.

    Even with Google Translate, I can't really figure out what they are saying, the translation gets put through the wringer and garbled left, right and center.
  6. Anonymous Member

    It's a scilon blog and of course the albums look like they are blooming, and they all learn at least a little something from DM's speeches when they write. One can't tell much except for some of the dates of the pictures.
  7. ZeroC Member

    I'm sure it being a Scilon blog that numbers are exagerated.

    However, Taiwan does appear to have more orgs/missions/whatever that any other country in the Far East.

    Perhaps we could work together to identify key forums and websites that are popular in Taiwan to spread a well worded message?

    Nothing tl;dr but simple and to the point, that encourages people to most importantly, do some research and spread the word. I've been thinking about this for a while but given OTBTs thread on this, thought I'd throw it into the mix.

    Thoughts and ideas? I'll try and do some of my own research in the meantime.

    Eventually it will all collapse, I'm sure of it, but this seems to be a new key place for the CoS and I feel we should act. Even if their numbers there too are declining a small but well planned campaign could have a big impact.

    Viva la revolution!
  8. Anonymous Member

    Taiwan summary from old thread

    http://forums.whyweprotest.net/thre...ll-official-orgs-missions-in-the-world.37684/

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  9. OTBT Member

    Somewhere on WWP, there is an old thread on medical claims in Dianetics.

    Here's a current Taiwan ad for the Dianetics book, on a book selling web site. No idea what the
    Mandarin says, but it clearly is trying to imply that Dianetics has the approval of a Medical Doctor.

    http://store.pchome.com.tw/lifewisdom/M03522202.htm

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  10. OTBT Member

    3 months ago, 20 November, 2010.

    Scientology branch in Taipei claims 1,200 students received Narconon seminar (Truth About Drugs)

    There's a lot of school kids in this photo.

    Code:
    http://sdentology4.pixnet.net/blog
    http://translate.google.com/transla...l=en&u=http://sdentology4.pixnet.net/blog

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  11. OTBT Member

    3 months ago, 16 November 2010.

    The photos are only labelled "Scientology", and they are posted on a Taiwan image hosting site.

    Taiwanese school kids getting some sort of Scientology seminar.

    http://www.im.tv/album/2960221/6905280

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  12. i though Taiwan was part of china and in china this isn't allowed? you know..... cuz of the communism and all that jaz....
  13. Anonymous Member

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  14. OTBT Member

    < sigh >
  15. OTBT Member

    FINALLY found a Taiwan critical web site. It is current and active. It covers recent news
    events of Hubbard's fake war medals, Scientology human trafficking, false imprisonment, and
    some local scientology scandals.

    Very well done critical site. 2 thumbs up. These guys know their stuff, warn people about front
    groups, warn about scilons covertly infiltrating local politicians, etc.

    http://ccascientology.blogspot.com/

    http://ccascientology.blogspot.com/2011/02/blog-post_13.html

    http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&amp;prev=_t&amp;hl=en&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;layout=2&amp;eotf=1&amp;sl=zh-CN&amp;tl=en&amp;u=http://ccascientology.blogspot.com/

    Here is the Google translate version of the lastest post. More in the link ^

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  16. november5 Member

    From what I can read (I'm from Hong Kong, but unfortunately my years at an International School has put my chinese skills to shame), she's a doctor who was passionate about the studies of the human mind. She got a degree on psychology/neuropsychology at a medical school but after finishing her studies she started to wonder various about various things that psychology doesn't answer, like &quot;why can't people get the sexual pleasure they want?&quot; and &quot;why are there diseases that can't be cured?&quot; She kept thinking about those questions until she read L. Ron Hubbard's Dianetics.
    Then it's followed by crap about how the book changed her life and why everyone else should read it.

    This better just be a public deception campaign to trick people into believing that the church has a larger influence than it currently does, because I will NOT like it if Scientology expands operations to Hong Kong.
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  17. OTBT Member

    The Razz Line is a scientology message board, based in LA.

    Code:
    http://www.therazzline.net/classifieds/guide/volunteer_opportunities
    For anyone wondering why I started this thread, there have been numerous reports from exes over on ESMB that orgs in Australia are flooded with Taiwanese.

    Scientology is aggressively pursuing Mandarin speaking people. I've seen lots of photos of Taiwanese on the Freewinds. I'm just trying to figure out how to alert Mandarin speaking people about the cult, and especially the front groups, which seem to be very active in schools and businesses in Taiwan.
  18. ZeroC Member

    I just went to forumosa.com, which is Taiwan's most heavily used forum. Running a search on Dianetics and Scientology there is quite a anti-Sci feel there, so re my last I'm not sure what course of action to take but am open to suggestions.
  19. HellRazor Member

    I agree with OBTB that this is important. Taiwan is fairly affluent and CoS hopes to suck $$$ out of the Taiwanese.
  20. OTBT Member

    Yeah, I'm open to suggestions as well. All I can think of at the moment is highlighting this Taiwan situation to others.

    These local Taiwan critics appear to be pretty active. No idea if they are Anons or plain old critics of scientology:

    http://ccascientology.blogspot.com/

    http://translate.google.com/transla...N&tl=en&u=http://ccascientology.blogspot.com/

    These guys ^ probably have a better idea about what to do locally, but I have no clue how to contact them. I don't see a comment section on their site, but it could just be that Google Translate messes it up so the comment section isn't obvious.

    HellRazor is correct, Taiwan is fairly affluent, and quite a number of Taiwanese are visiting Freewinds and orgs in Australia.

    I did a Google Realtime search and blog search today, searching for Mandarin hits for

    Scientology. 達基

    and Dianetics. 戴尼提

    and scilons are actively spamming online Taiwanese, like Narconon is spamming online here in English.

    http://translate.google.com/# is invaluable tool.
  21. Anonymous Member

    There is a small Dianetics center in HK. It's not active but there's sign of life. You can search for it on twitter. It moved a few times probably due to lack of business. There's one Applied Scholastics just across the border in PRC, actively teaching English, perhaps by one person.


    The "an insult to all Japanese allies" should be translated as "an insult to all anti-Japanese allies", and for LastOneStanding, that means the US and Chinese at the time of LRH's service.

    Their numbers are reducing by my guesstimate and scilon blog activities. On facebook they have several hundred active members, and their courses tend to have 10 or so confirms with several out of the city scilons, not cheating but signs of moral support. My sock is even being ordered to attend one of the courses with no uncertain terms. They have some WISE companies but many are consultants, direct selling "pyramid" schemes, insurance company as in the pic. Most are miserable and I saw a repeated Taiwanese offender on the WISE blacklist. They are successful in pushing existing scilons to advance on the bridge or buy more courses.


    By their chit chat, OCA is useless, with a questionnaire on the street to raw meat into the shop ratio to taking an introductory course is some 10,000 to 100,000 to one (that I don't remember). They tried stress test may be once. They have a continuing Dianetics campaign online but if they have any success they will shout out the numbers. They have to dig out this seemingly unwilling children doctor to promote Dianetics. Otherwise she never appears on online or in public. Her blog, not directly showing her identity, is dead for a couple of years.

    They have a pretty solid hard core and the city of Kaohsiung is working on winning the birthday game this march. But this reflects the worldwide failure.

    Basically they cannot enter schools or use school facilities nowadays. But this does not deter them from cheating their way in. They never announce any school activities in advance because that had lead to cancellations or having to find another location due to email complains. Kaohsiung is the special case, with mind boggling religious tolerance of the highest order, in other words they can believe in anything. Kaohsiung is also the birthplace of scn in Taiwan, and the city of Human Rights. The mayors office assure that there is no current operation with the CoS. They may be quiet for a almost a year, but when you are not looking, suddenly they have a few events as shown above. The recruitment stat is about zero. This is their final survival - maintaining ethics presence or wall of legitimacy that I learned here, or else they will drop dead.

    What I don't understand is that they do send some hardcore young scilons to flag or sydney as Sea Orgs for a few months ??? Working in translation mostly or helping other public scilons from Taiwan. This may be lost in translation but relatives will say receive Sea Org training and back in a few months. How's that for the billion year contract?

    If you like funny translations, this is a recent open letter to the president logged at the presidential office, complaining about scilons trying to use the President's image to promote TWTH etc.

    Of course you can contact us here. Where else we got the info from?
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  22. OTBT Member

    Big THANKS for info and updates.

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Choose a color via Color picker or click the predefined style names!

Primary Color :

Secondary Color :
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