Discussion in 'Kirstie Alley' started by StrongMouse, Feb 3, 2009.
as long as its out there Johnny, along as its out there
Isn't that article post a month old? June 10th
meanwhile in a purification rundown in paris
Yeah, well, sometimes I get restless and go hunting for stuff I missed...
Kirstie Alley To Reportedly Go To Trial In August Over Messy Lawsuit
Inquisitr, July 12, 2015
Kirstie Alley and her former business partner have been named in a lawsuit that alleges they accepted a “fraudulent” transfer of funds during the time they ran their company, Organic Liaison.
Alley and Michelle Seward are being sued by Jeffrey and Marguerite Stabile, who say they gave Seward around $500,000, and “that the funds the trust received are related to a premium financed life insurance transaction organized by the defendant and collateralized by $1,000,000 of investor funds.” Seward later told the Stabiles that she had “lost control of the funds,” and now they say that Kirstie Alley “either actually knew, constructively knew, or should have known that the investment of $1 million, and the transfer of $400,000 into her trust… was illegal, fraudulent and otherwise improper, and at the expense of persons such as the plaintiffs and those similarly situated.”
Alley and Seward are reportedly due in court next month when the case goes to trial, and both are expected to testify.
This isn’t the first time Kirstie has been called to court over her former business, which she sold to Jenny Craig in 2013; that same year, Organic Liaison customer Marina Abramyan sued Alley over claims the actress made regarding her product — namely, that it was solely responsible for her 100-pound weight loss — and won $130,000 in court.
Abramyan alleged that Alley didn’t credit her turn on Dancing with the Stars for part of her weight loss.
her tears are delicous
Leah must be giggling with delight.
Oh Krusty Alien, you sold snake oil and you support an evil cult. I hope you get what you deserve.
Scientology Scam? Kirstie Alley’s Diet Company Paid NOTHING Back To Investors Despite Making $10M, Shocking New Lawsuit Claims
By Jen Heger, Radar Online, July 13, 2015
Kirstie Alley has always sung the praises of her Organic Liaison diet program: Not only did she lose weight and gain energy thanks to the products, she’s said, she also managed to rake in $10million in revenue and sell it to Jenny Craig after just four years. But a shocking new lawsuit claims that her investors weren’t so lucky. According to court documents obtained by RadarOnline.com, investors who gave her millions to start up the brand didn’t make one cent back!
Alley and Organic Liaison are named as defendants in a lawsuit filed in Chatsworth, California, over an alleged Ponzi scheme spearheaded by former prominent Scientologist, Michelle Seward. Jeffrey and Marguerite Stabile loaned approximately $500,000 of their life savings to Seward, and are suing her and other co-defendants over claims she used their money to fund her luxurious lifestyle as an A-list Scientologist.
According to the documents, Seward invested $1 million in Alley’s company in 2009. “Another investor, Nancy Cartwright, made similar investments of $2 million in the same company,” the documents state.
But the bombshell documents state that “Organic Liaison returned nothing to any of the investors. In three years, their entire investments were extinguished.”
“In Alley’s words, ‘We were non-profitable,” the documents continue. “Alley contends that she has negotiated with the Jenny Craig company to sell Organic Liaisons, LLC products, with the profit to be shared with Organic Liaison investors. But she will not divulge what the agreement was. Nonetheless, she acknowledges the unit holders got no money back. Nor were they included in the negotiations.”
At the same time, Rob Bastian, the lawyer for the couple suing Alley, also claims that Alley paid herself roughly $1 million per year to be the company spokesperson, without consulting investors. “Alley has testified that it was $750,000,” he admitted.
‘Blood, Sex, Crime!’ Shocking Scientology Emails Released In Kirstie Alley Lawsuit Reveal Dark Secrets Of The Church
By Jen Heger, Radar Online, July 14, 2015
Scientologists have always closely guarded the inner workings of the controversial church. But now, a trove of bombshell emails released in a lawsuit against Kirstie Alley and obtained by RadarOnline.com are shedding light on the organization’s darkest secrets.
The blockbuster emails were uncovered in an ongoing lawsuit against Alley and former Scientologist Michelle Seward, over an alleged Ponzi scheme Seward oversaw.
Seward was also Alley’s insurance agent at the time, and the lawsuit asserts that money from life insurance policies Seward sold to Alley and other Scientologists helped fund “large donations [that] would be made to Scientology affiliated organizations, where it was anticipated that … those donations would either lead to kick-backs, future business or increased influence within the Church of Scientology.”
As the scheme unraveled, however, Seward complained in emails to Alley’s assistant, Peggy Crawford, that the Church was attempting to destroy and discredit her.
In an email sent on October 3, 2012, and obtained by Radar, Seward warned Crawford, “Black PR policy is being applied.”
According to the court documents, black PR is rumored to be a Scientology “campaign to destroy” and “discredit” anyone deemed a “long-term threat … so thoroughly that they will be ostracized.”
The court papers describe the procedure as follows: “(1) Spot who is attacking us. (2) Start investigating them promptly for FELONIES or worse using our own professionals, not outside agencies. (3) Double curve our reply by saying we welcome and investigation of them. (4) Start feeding lurid, blood, sex, crime actual evidence on the attackers to the press,” the documents state.
A Scientology website states, “The technique of black propaganda seeks to bring a reputation so low that the person, company or nation is denied any rights whatever … It is then possible to destroy the person, company or nation with a minor attack if the black propaganda itself has not already accomplished this.”
Another Scientology tactic, “disconnection,” appears later in the email when Seward claimed she had received a disconnection notice from a fellow Scientologist, Joyce Gaines.
According to the Scientology website, “As defined by L. Ron Hubbard … ‘The term disconnection is defined as a self-determined decision made by an individual that he is not going to be connected to another. It is a severing of a communication line.'”
As Seward’s alleged Ponzi scheme fell apart, however, Scientology attorneys did the opposite, and ramped up communications with her.
An email dated, February 23, 2013, Seward stated, “Yesterday was an extremely full day. We had our meeting with [Scientology attorney] Rick Moxon. It went well but its not good either way because it is requesting our [donations] back. Any commission I received from client investments has to go back, so it’s frustrating position. My attorneys made it very clear that this was not my idea or anything I wanted to do, it is just what legally has to keep the church protected and out of this.”
Scientology’s attorney Moxon “asked a lot about Kirstie and keeping her out” of the bad press, the email stated.
Seward has since left the Church of Scientology.
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ha ha love it
Boy do I love the internet.
Keep Fatty-Alley away from it! Lolol Toxic-Moxin, a dumb fucking shill to the end.... pretty sure cult doesn't own his soul, think he lost that when his own daughter had an 'accident'....
what is it with scilons and Ponzie schemes? Its like, um, they are made for each other, um-derrr,.
Good ol' Lron Hubbard, teaching the arts of lying & stealing since *circa 1950. Yup folks, Scientology works! Look at all them be-ooty-full buildings! Ghandi would be likken them shoes,,,,, nope.
I thought there's nothing worse than a wood-tick 'r three, hell no! At least parasites, of the bug nature, take things like blood an' shit, but, not your mind/soul (disclaimer thingy~ bugs can give you all sorts of diseases dependiing on where ya live.... Scilonese is another disease of the mind imho, a bit different from our regular physical ones.. hm, an 'irregular' affliction?
Blabbering, me loved this thread, the truth escapes, cult has people bailing like a ship on fire, *goesforwalk*
Let's see how Krusty Alien's lawyers try to spin this and what the out come will be.
So are we just talking hefty fines for the heifer?
Or actual jail time? Oh be still my heart
Kirstie Alley Lawsuit — Former Insurance Agent Michelle Not Expected To Appear At Upcoming Trial
By Jen Heger, Radar Online, July 14, 2015
Kirstie Alley’s former friend “blames Scientology” for wrecking her business and her life, new court documents obtained by RadarOnline.com claim.
Alley’s former insurance agent, Michelle Seward, is currently a co-defendant with the actress in a Ponzi scheme lawsuit, as Radar has reported. But according to new court documents she has stopped cooperating and is unlikely to appear at the upcoming trial, instead choosing to spend her time bashing the religion online!
According to legal documents obtained by Radar, “Since answering plaintiffs’ complaint, defendant Seward has stopped responding to pleadings and gone into default. She, nonetheless, continues to maintain a presence on the internet, where the once prominent Scientologist blames the Church of Scientology for the unraveling of her financial business, advertises her continued insurance activity, and promises somehow to repay investors a portion of what is owed them.”
Seward and the Cheers star were sued Jeffrey and Marguerite Stabile, who claim they loaned approximately $500,000 of their life savings to Seward, before she “purportedly lost control of the funds.”
Rob Bastian, the lawyer representing the Stabiles told Radar exclusively, “Since Ms. Seward stopped responding to legal correspondence, she was served with a default notice. I don’t expect her to appear at the upcoming trial, but my clients won’t stop trying to get their money back from her. It’s time for Ms. Seward to come forward and play by the same rules the rest of us do.”
The trial is expected to begin in August, with Kirstie Alley scheduled to take the witness stand.
As Radar reported, Seward said in court documents that she and Alley are no longer close.
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Kirstie Alley’s Organic Liaison still a big, fat flop
By Tony Ortega, June 15, 2015
Radar Online is continuing to have a whale of a time taking things out of a lawsuit involving Kirstie Alley and calling them “bombshell” revelations. As we noted back in June, this is actually a lawsuit which grew out of a botched movie project that had nothing to do with Alley or with the Church of Scientology.
While Radar has fun with the “bombshell” and “blockbuster” allegations being made by the plaintiffs, we still see it as a complex (and dull) business dispute that partly turns on Alley’s failed Organic Liaison business. We described the dispute’s backstory in our earlier piece (second item).
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Because She’s Worth It? Kirstie Alley Bought $68 Million In Life Insurance, New Lawsuit Claims — Friend Got $1M Commission
By Jen Heger, Radar Online, July 16, 2015
Kirstie Alley’s net worth is reportedly only $30 million, but the actress once bought two life insurance policies totaling $68 million, RadarOnline.com has learned. Now, those policies are at the center of a Ponzi scheme lawsuit, over claims that Alley’s insurance agent, Michelle Seward, got a $1.1 million commission that she then invested in the actress’ controversial diet company.
Alley and Organic Liaison are named as defendants in a lawsuit over an alleged Ponzi scheme spearheaded by Seward, a formerly prominent Scientologist and friend of Alley. Jeffrey and Marguerite Stabile loaned approximately $500,000 of their life savings to Seward, and are suing her and other co-defendants over claims she used their money to fund her luxurious lifestyle as an A-list Scientologist.
According to recently unsealed court documents, Seward acted as Alley’s insurance agent in obtaining two life insurance policies, one for $55 million, and the other for $13 million.
“It is clear from discovery in this litigation that Michelle Seward was, at a minimum, Kirstie Alley’s agent on a $55 million life insurance policy. That much has been acknowledged by both Ms. Alley and Peggy Crawford at their respective depositions,” the documents state. “It has been discussed throughout this litigation.”
“Further testified to and discussed throughout the litigation, including emails by defendants, is that Ms. Seward was an agent to a $13 million dollar key man policy that was written on the life of Ms. Alley and which I am informed and believed insured largely to the advantage of Ms. Alley,” the plaintiff’s attorney Rob Bastian stated in the legal documents.
During the deposition of Alley’s former assistant and Organic Liaison CEO, Peggy Crawford revealed that the premiums during a three-year period were a whopping $13 million, and financing had to be secured for the payments.
“I can give you an estimate…for the three years above that. Maybe $13 million,” Peggy Crawford stated when asked about the cost of the policies.
When asked to break down the premiums for the two policies, Crawford stated, “Because the — you know, we financed the policies. They were very expensive premiums far beyond what we could pay so we financed the policy…”
“We obtained premium finance with I think it’s called First Funding, First Funding, and the agreement that Michelle had with Organic Liaison and Kirstie Alley Family – you know, Kirstie Alley for her and her trust was that she (Seward) would pay the commissions from – the interest on the policies,” she said. “And then she (Seward) would invest the remainder of her commissions into Organic Liaison as an investor.”
Crawford claimed that Seward had “wanted to invest in Organic Liaison … but she didn’t have any funds to invest personally, so she wanted to write a key man policy and use the commissions that she earned from the key man policy to invest in Organic Liaison – so she proposed that there was some deal that she had with an insurance company that was of exceptional benefit to the company that also wouldn’t cost the company because the company is a start-up, we didn’t have the funds for an expensive policy, so her commissions would cover the payments on the interest on a premium finance loan as provide additional funds for her to invest.”
The policies were issued in early 2010, but as Seward’s alleged Ponzi scheme unraveled, she began missing payments to the finance company for the premiums.
Alley became concerned about the missed premium payments, and according to the court documents, “Ultimately, Kirstie Alley brought in another financial expert, associated with Morgan Stanley, to see if there was not a better way to finance the policies. Concerned on November 29, 2012, Seward initiated an email exchange with Crawford asking, ‘How did this broker approached you? Is he a Scientologist?'”
Alley decided in March 2013 to terminate the policies.
Alley claimed she worked with a team of scientists to create Organic Liaison, which is meant to “escort you into the world of organic weight loss” by combining an organic diet with “organic and natural diet supplements that replenish your body with essential vitamins, minerals and nutrients without the pangs of starvation or cravings you may have felt on other diet plans,” according to company materials.
Critics believe the plan is based on a Scientology program called the purification rundown, which was even prescribed by L. Ron Hubbard himself.
A final status conference in this new case is scheduled for August 13, with the jury trial scheduled to begin on August 17.
A source close to Alley told Radar the court documents were “not accurate. … I can’t go into details as the deposition is sealed and we are respecting the court’s order. It sounds like the opposing side of the suit is grasping at straws … in an attempt to win this in the press as they know they will lose in the courtroom.”
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Aug 13th, marked "Krusty" on my calendar.
Krusty Alien's decades of nastiness is biting her in the ass.
Or this is so deelish!
Lulzy. Are there other investors waiting to pounce?
Jenny Crank still giving her woo juice away?
"A final status conference in this new case is scheduled for August 13, with the jury trial scheduled to begin on August 17.
I think orange would look great on her. Just sayin.....
Wouldn't it clash with the red in her eyes?
nothing can make this witch look good. I was only joshing
I should have said I will be tickled silly if she has to don an orange jumpsuit.
Of course that will never happen and if it ever did, she would be placed in a cream puff facility.
Oh noes, but who will love her lemurs?
I think house arrest would come before she ever saw any jail time.
And even that is a pipe dream
wonder what the status conference involved yesterday?
So I guess they are supposed to be in court tomorrow?
How to get an update?
Would love to know if Krust is the new orange.
It's a civil suit, not a criminal action. Worst thing that could come out of this from Kirstie's POV is that she'll be ordered to pay a bunch of money. And she's gotta be really used to that by now.
drat. I can dream can't I?
Doesn't seem right. Rip people off and be fined? And there are people sitting in jail for committing less crimes.
"Critics believe the plan is based on a Scientology program called the purification rundown, which was even prescribed by L. Ron Hubbard himself."
What could possibly go wrong with this business strategy? Simple math right? 22 million $cientologists on the planet. Then divide by zero. Profit.
Secrets Safe? Kirstie Alley Scrambles To Settle Scientology Lawsuit — What Could Be Revealed
By Jen Heger, Radar Online, August 25, 2015
Kirstie Alley is scrambling to hide her Scientology secrets! RadarOnline.com has learned that her attorneys are working to settle the messy lawsuit filed against the Cheers actress and her business before she has to tell all in court.
As Radar reported, Alley and her controversial diet company, Organic Liaison, had been named as defendants in a lawsuit over an alleged Ponzi scheme spearheaded by former Scientologist, Michelle Seward. Plaintiffs Jeffrey and Marguerite Stabile loaned approximately $500,000 of their life savings to Seward, but she “purportedly lost control of the funds,” they said in court documents.
With a trial date looming, Alley, was scheduled to testify. But after she fought to keep her deposition in the suit sealed, Radar has learned she has reached a tentative settlement with the plaintiffs, ensuring further secrecy will surround her involvement in Seward’s alleged scheme.
Sources didn’t divulge the terms of the tentative settlement, but a judge is expected to dismiss the entire case on November 28, 2015, after the formal settlement has been signed off on by both parties.
The case against Seward will proceed, however, according to the source.
Settlement talks began after Radar revealed that Alley never paid back any of her investors in Organic Liaison after selling the company to Jenny Craig, despite raking in $10 million in revenue.
Among the other blockbuster developments of the case, Radar reported that Seward obtained a $68 million life insurance policies for Alley and then invested her $1.1 million commission back into Organic Liaisons.
Lawyers for Alley fought to keep her deposition sealed, and previously stated in legal documents, “Alley is a world-renowned actress with significant media interest in her activities. Consequently, the deposition transcript created in connection with her deposition has economic value to the media and to tabloid publications and/or is of interest to the media and to tabloid publications such that the parties stipulated to a protective order limiting the use, disclosure and dissemination of her deposition testimony and transcript. There is a great likelihood that disclosure of Alley’s personal and confidential information will be misused by the media to publicly harass, annoy, embarrass, and unduly burden Alley.”
“Not only is there significant media and tabloid attention given to celebrities in general but so too is there enormous media and tabloid attention surrounding the Church of Scientology and any celebrity involvement therewith,” the documents stated. “In order to avoid any damage to or public or private harassment of Alley through the dissemination, disclosure, or publication of private, confidential and/or proprietary information disclosed during Alley’s deposition, the record must be sealed.”
With a settlement looming, the deposition will remain sealed forever.
The Stabiles’ attorney Rob Bastian had no comment about the latest developments.
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"Alley is a world-renowned actress"
"There is a great likelihood that disclosure of Alley’s personal and confidential information will be misused by the media to publicly harass, annoy, embarrass, and unduly burden Alley.”
Hey, isn't that Scientology's job?
It was ok when she publically went after Leah Remini though, right Krusty?
She must be paying out some serious cash and a huge gag order must be in place. Once again money protecting criminals.
The silver lining? At least the COS won't be getting that cash.
"Hollywood jumping ship? Actress and comedian Kirstie Alley announced on social media that she will not be voting for a Democrat in the upcoming presidential election."
So. What do all the Scientologists like about the Republican party this time around? What is going to further their agenda?
Trump? If he even makes it
Scientology is a fascist-like ideology, so the members will vote for the most extreme right-wing candidates.
I know they were standing behind Ron Paul one year because of his platform on taxes
Kirstie Alley ‘Abandoned’ Fan After Her Weight-Loss Products Triggered Life-Threatening Problems — ‘It Got Ugly’
By Radar Online Staff
Once morbidly obese at 622 pounds, Clint Brown credited the Kirstie Alley‘s Organic Liaison system with helping him shed more than 300 pounds — but RadarOnline.com has learned that he’s now slamming the products and the star.
“Kirstie saved my life!” a grateful Brown, who’s 6-foot-4, proclaimed in March 2013. “Because of my weight, I’d been on disability at age 25, oxygen at 28 and in a power chair at 30.” “Kirstie gave me the inspiration and all the diet and weight-loss tools to start a new life,” he added.
Devout Scientologist Alley, 64, provided him with a dietician who put him on a 2,000-calorie-a-day diet, an exercise program and a regimen of three Organic Liaison products — Release Me, Rescue Me and Nightingale. But now Brown claims he underwent surgery after developing gallbladder stones that doctors blamed on his rapid weight loss and excessive calcium — a key ingredient in Release Me.
“After I told Kirstie’s people that I’d been told to stop taking Release Me, it got ugly,” Brown, 39, of Lexington, Ky., recently told Radar.
Oh this is such crap! Everyone knows she was just quoted as saying that she wants to be kind to humanity or whatever the fuck she said. *cough*
She is such a piece of crap.
Excessive calcium eh? Cal mag much?
Scientology Snub! Kirstie Alley’s Cousin Claims They Don’t Expect Her For Christmas
She prioritizes the controversial church, the relative says.
It looks like it may be a blue Christmas for Kirstie Alley‘s family members. The Scientologist actress’ cousin told RadarOnline.com that they don’t expect to see her for the holiday, since they claim she prioritizes the controversial church over her family.
“They don’t see her very often,” Kirstie’s cousin Lane Alley told Radar of the star’s siblings.
The 64-year-old’s brother and sister, Craig and Colette, left the Hollywood lifestyle to their famous sis and still live in her hometown of Wichita, Kansas.
“We’re not that impressed with her. We’re used to it,” continued her cousin. “We don’t know when she comes into town,” she told Radar. “[Her brother and sister] don’t really say [much about her].”
As Christmas and New Year’s quickly approach, it could be a sad time for Emmy-winner Kirstie, whose daughter Lillie lost her fiancé Nick Trela just weeks before Christmas last year in a motorcycle accident.
But if the Dancing With The Stars alum decides to visit the Midwest, Lane claimed Kirstie will have other motives in mind besides family bonding.
“I know she’ll see her dad, but she’ll usually do stuff with Scientology when she’s here,” Lane said of Kirstie, who tragically lost her mom Lillian Maxine in a drunk driving accident in 1981 that also left her father Robert injured.
“She’d like them to be [Scientologists]. She’d like all of us to be Scientologists!” Lane claimed.
So, she'll be celebrating Xenu-mas then?
Krusty Alien NOT showing up is a gift within itself
Rebecca Beitel @BeckyBeitel
@kirstiealley how much money have you given to Scientology?
Kirstie Alley @kirstiealley 17 hours ago
Kirstie Alley Retweeted Rebecca Beitel
How many times have you had sex with monkeys?
Kirstie Alley @kirstiealley 17 hours ago
Sorta bored tonight .. Can you tell? LOL
Kirstie Alley @kirstiealley 5 hours ago
Twitter's NOT a vehicle 4 in-depth conversation & I won't answer baited "do you still beat ur wife?" type Q's. Ur timeline gives u away
Or Beited, apparently. Glad to see her surname isn't restimulating you or anything. And lest we forget who's in on the monkeysex,
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