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The "Minister" aka Reverend James J. McLaughlin Narconon et al

Discussion in 'Narconon' started by patriot75, Oct 7, 2012.

  1. You were right in not caring. I've lived in plenty of old places that harbored old people or deaths. The reality is always that that is happening all the time. It's not really special or any sort of omen since it is a common occurance.

    IMO, mass deaths, especially ones of cruelty or neglect, bring at least to my perception a feeling of uneasiness- Maybe scis were simply going for cheap land, but maybe it's cheap for a reason. To compound the wrong of a massacre or native boarding school by having a scientology operation scamming people (apparently the local natives at first, according to reports on Chilocco) built right on top of it seems kinda crass somehow.
  2. grebe Member

    Probably so. I don't think I'd want to live right next to Auschwitz, for example, even though I don't believe in ghosts.
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  3. grebe Member

    I can't remember the name of any politician from Oklahoma, save that of Sally Kern. She is a lulzcow of limitless potential. I hope you dustbowlfags are milking away for the lulz at every opportunity.
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  4. Sekee Member



    I also have a problem with the concept of "bad medicine" sites. It’s not about facts here though, it’s about beliefs. Hubbard was connected to OTO and Aleister Crowley through Jack Parsons and was trying to create a moonchild.
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  5. Anonymous Member

    says hes senior VP of Narconon in this WLC/NoI dox from 2006
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    also quoted on page 2
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    During the 2004 election, Sebelius was named as a potential running mate for John Kerry.[29] In the aftermath of Kerry's defeat, some pundits named Sebelius as a potential candidate for the Democratic nomination for President in 2008.[30] After Barack Obama's clinching of the nomination in June 2008, speculation that she would be a contender for the vice-presidential slot on the Democratic ticket continued.[31] The Washington Post listed her as the top prospect for the 2008 nomination.[32] James Carville and Bob Novak also mentioned Sebelius's name,[33][34] and Wesley Clark, also considered a potential running mate, publicly endorsed Sebelius, referring to her as "the next vice-president of the United States."[35] Speculation that the Vice Presidential nomination lay in her future was heightened by the fact that she was chosen by the Democratic Party's congressional leaders to give their party's official response to Republican President George W. Bush's 2008 State of the Union Address.[36] The next day, she endorsed Obama's campaign, one week before the Kansas caucus on Super Tuesday.[37] Obama won the caucus easily, with 74% support.[38]
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kathleen_Sebelius

    Civilian career

    Clark set himself three initial goals in civilian life—to earn $40 million in the business world to let him practice philanthropy, to become an adjunct professor, and to become a professional golfer. Clark began a public speaking tour in the summer of 2000 and approached several former government officials for advice on work after life in government, including House Speaker Newt Gingrich, White House Chief of Staff Mack McLarty, and Richard Holbrooke. Clark took McLarty's advice to move back to Little Rock, Arkansas, and took a position with the Stephens Group, an investment firm headquartered there. He took several other board positions at defense-related firms, and in March 2003 he amicably left the Stephens Group to found Wesley K. Clark & Associates. Clark began writing, publishing two books—Waging Modern War and Winning Modern Wars—along with writing the forewords for a series of military biographies, as well as a series of editorials.[1] He had amassed only about $3.1 million towards his $40 million goal by 2003, but began considering running for public office instead of pursuing his business career.[95]
    2004 presidential campaign
    Main article: Wesley Clark presidential campaign, 2004
    See also: Democratic Party (United States) presidential primaries, 2004 and United States presidential election, 2004

    Clark has said that he began to truly define his politics only after his military retirement in 2000 around the 2000 presidential election that would give George W. Bush the presidency. Clark had a conversation with Condoleezza Rice. She told him that the war in Kosovo would have never taken place under a Bush administration. Clark found such an administration unsettling, as he had been selected for the SACEUR position because he believed more in the interventionist policies of the Clinton administration. He said he would see it as a sign that things were "starting to go wrong" with American foreign policy if Bush was elected.[96] Clark supported the administration's War in Afghanistan in response to the September 11, 2001 attacks but did not support the Iraq War. Clark continued to warn people as a commentator on CNN that he believed the United States was undermanned in Iraq, and has said the war was "never [about]... WMD or regime change," and believes "the connection to the War on Terrorism was not shown."[97][98]

    Clark met with a group of wealthy New York Democrats including Alan Patricof to tell them he was considering running for the presidency in the 2004 election. Patricof, a supporter of Al Gore in 2000, met with all the Democratic candidates and ultimately supported Clark in 2004. Clark has said that he voted for Al Gore in 2000, but has voted for Republicans such as Ronald Reagan, held equal esteem for Dwight D. Eisenhower and Harry S. Truman, and had been a registered independent voter throughout his military career. Ultimately as Clark himself put it, however, he decided he was a Democrat because "I was pro-affirmative action, I was pro-choice, I was pro-education... I'm pro-health care... I realized I was either going to be the loneliest Republican in America or I was going to be a happy Democrat."[99] Clark said he liked the Democratic party, which he saw as standing for "internationalism", "ordinary men and women", and "fair play."[100][101]
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  9. Sekee Member

    Were you taking about the stolen skull and bones of Geronimo Patriot?




  10. patriot75 Member

    ^^I have some catching up to do, sorry about that.....I be caught up in a couple of days, I kinda had a accident the other day and trew my back out.
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  11. RightOn Member

    sorry you accidently your back
    that is not fun
    be well
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  12. anon walker Moderator

    It might be likely that there are more massacre sites than not on land that suffered a hostile take-over from Whitey?
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  13. Sekee Member

    Clifton Mitchell


    Clifton Mitchell
    Chief Expert on Faith-Based Communities
    Office of the Director, CSAT
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  14. Anonymous Member


    August 1996 -- President Clinton signs HR-3734 “Personal Responsibility and Work Opportunity Reconciliation Act” (PRWORA) into law. Oklahoma Representative J.C. Watts sponsors the House bill. Missouri Senator John Ashcroft drafted the original version of the legislation. The bill purportedly “ends welfare as we know it.”


    July 1998 -- Howard Hendrick, Director of the Oklahoma Department of Human Services (DHS), reportedly asks Brad Yarborough, a former Nazarene Church pastor, to attend federal conferences on the role of faith-based organizations in social services delivery. Yarborough then develops and distributes a “Planning Document” on Oklahoma’s participation in the federal faith-based initiative.


    March 1999 — Oklahoma has already reduced the number of TANF recipients by 60% from the 1996 level.


    Spring 1999 — Governor Keating launches the Oklahoma Marriage Initiative to encourage “healthy marriages.” $10 million of TANF funds are allocated “to keep marriage/divorce on the public agenda, resources centers, mentoring programs, education and training programs and research and evaluation.”
    Spring 2000 – With support from Governor Keating, Jerry Regier, Secretary for Health and Human Services, establishes an “Office of Faith-Based Liaison” based on recommendations in Yarborough’s “Strategic Document.” Yarborough is appointed as the first director. He reports directly to Regier. His office is funded by federal Temporary Assistance to Needy Families (TANF) grants.


    July 2000 -- Regier renames the “Office of Faith-Based Liaison” the “Oklahoma Office of Faith-Based and Community Initiatives” (OFBCI.)


    January 2001 -- President Bush’s establishes a Federal Office of Faith-Based and Community Initiatives by Executive Order. The office is based at the White House with John DiIulio as Director. A “Compassion Capital Fund” of $70 million a year is promised for the office. $30 million is delivered. Most of the money was earmarked for “intermediary organizations.” David Kuo, Special Assistant to the President from 2001 to 2003, wrote, “It was obvious that the ratings (of organizations receiving funds) were a farce. . . . Once the list was made public it would show once and for all that the initiative was purely about paying off political friends for their support.” (pp. 214-216)


    Early 2001 — Brad Yarborough, Director of Oklahoma’s Faith-Based Office, grants contracts to the Cornerstone Assistance Networks of OK City ($60K) and Tulsa ($40K) to serve as “intermediary organizations.” Tulsa Metropolitan Ministries, a well known and widely respected 64 year old Interfaith Social Service agency, had not been included in bidding on the contract for “Intermediary Organization” in Tulsa. Metropolitan Ministries of Central Oklahoma had been similarly omitted from bidding on the OK City contract.


    April 2001 – the FaithLinks website is established. www.faithlinks.state.ok.us


    May 17, 2001 – Gov. Keating’s Executive Order 2001-18 does not mention the OFBCI but merely directs all state agencies to:

    “make all necessary changes to actively engage in collaborative efforts (in the form of contracts, grants, vouchers, or other forms of disbursements. Or volunteer programs) with FBOs for the provision of social services on the same basis as other non-governmental providers.”


    May 21, 2001 — Congress approves the President’s $1.7 trillion tax-cut bill. $6 billion per year in tax credits for groups helping the poor were eliminated from the bill. Estate and inheritance tax cuts for the wealthy reduce charitable giving by more than $5 billion per year.


    August 2001 — John DiIulio resigns as head of the White House Office of Faith-Based initiatives. He says, “What you've got is everything, and I mean everything, being run by the political arm. It's the reign of the Mayberry Machiavellis. [They] consistently talked and acted as if the height of political sophistication consisted in reducing every issue to its simplest black-and-white terms for public consumption, then steering legislative initiatives or policy proposals as far right as possible."


    December 2001 — The White House and GOP Congressional leadership refuse to support a bi-partisan effort to authorize a modest increase in funding for social services block grants (TANF) or pass tax cuts for charitable giving.


    February 2002 — Jim Towey appointed Director of the White House Office of Faith-Based Initiatives — now under the office of USA Freedom Corps. Plans are made to use White House Faith-Based Office events in 20 strategic Congressional Districts in an effort to woo minority communities and help re-elect GOP incumbents.


    November 2002 — GOP incumbents were re-elected in 19 out of 20 of the Congressional Districts where the White House Faith-Based Office hosted “Rountable events.”


    December 2002 — David Kuo calculated that the current administration was spending $20 million a year less on social services than the previous administration.


    January 13, 2003 -- Gov. Henry’s Executive Order 2003-7 does not reauthorize Keating’s Executive Order 2001-18. Henry, however, tacitly approves of the OFBCI by reappointing Hendrick as Director of Oklahoma’s DHSandallowingHendrick to sustain the Office.


    December 2003 — David Kuo resigns from his position with the White House Office of Faith-Based Initiatives.

    2004 — The White House Office of Faith-Based Initiatives hosted dozens of conferences in politically strategic cities in an effort to garner support from Hispanic and black religious leaders for the President’s re-election. At the last minute, an extra conference was added in mid-October in Miami, Florida.


    February 2005 — Staff at the White House Faith-Based Office was cut by nearly 30%.


    Early 2006 — Total funding going to faith-based groups declined. The President’s new budget contained across the board cuts to social programs.


    April 2006 — Brad Yarborough resigns as Director of Oklahoma’s Faith-Based Office.


    May 2007 — Robin Jones, an Independent Baptist associated with Oklahoma Family Policy Council and Oklahoma Prison Fellowship was appointed Director of the Oklahoma Office of Faith-Based Initiatives.


    May 24, 2007 -- Oklahoma’s HB-2101 authorized a “revolving fund for the Office of Faith-Based Initiatives” to be “used for grants to volunteer organizations including, but not limited to, faith-based organizations” involved in the reintegration of prison inmates. For the first time, the OK legislature approved the use of state tax dollars to support sectarian organizations.
    http://www.auok.org/faith-based_timeline.htm
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  15. Sekee Member

    The Heather Spencer murder case had a connection to NN Arrowhead do you think it’s too tenuous?

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    Has anyone seen anything of the Narconon lawsuit mentioned here?
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  16. anonysamvines Member

    I take exception to this

    He most certainly was a addiction specialist/expert, and carried out extensive research right to the very end of his life!
    Both his own personal experiences and in introducing others to other addictions.

    What he was not, was a specialist/expert in the rehabilitation of addicts. That he knew fuck all about, and he passed all he knew onto his trained monkeys. They haven't deviated from, or added to, his knowledge of addiction rehabilitation
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  17. patriot75 Member

    I have seen the lawsuit somewhere just cant remember off the top of my head and right now nothing is to tenuous. ;)
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