The Smoking Gun: Trump, The Least Charitable Billionaire

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  1. The Internet Member

    WTF the Coasties are and always have been the best there is. No brand improvement is possible.

    Fuck that stupid fucker and his little round stupid mouth.
  2. White Tara Global Moderator

    I heartily disagree, the point made was a distortion, a misrepresentation of the facts surrounding the creation of the Op Innocence forum. That distortion in and of itself was Trumpesque. How disingenuous to pretend this is not the same person who has been derailing many threads over time with these personal and baseless attacks on Disambiguation, over a difference of opinion? It is true that not all of us agreed with the creation of Op Innocence in the first place, but on balance, our arguments were reasonably countered. So, It exists, do as the rest of us do, get over it, participate in it, or don't. I don't particularly mind which you choose, but please stop the incessant bawing about it, its pointless, unbecoming and a derail no matter which way you try to twist it.

    I don't care to argue further the merits or otherwise of the existence of the Op Innocence forum or any ops that sprang from it, in this a DONALD TRUMP thread.
    Protip and a warning: Bootstrapping an unrelated personal attack on anyone at the tail end of a very well thought out and reasonable post could see the whole pertinent part of that post lost in the derail thread alongside the unnecessary attack strapped to it, and that would be a shame.

    now please /derail.
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  3. The Coast Guard isn't a brand. They don't sell a product, and they aren't trying to penetrate America's consciousness with their iconic work.

    They're a branch of the military, which is part of the federal government, not a business.

    As such, they're not concerned about branding. They do what governments are supposed to do, which is to protect the welfare of the people they serve.

    The fact that Trump doesn't seem to understand this is not even the least bit surprising.
  4. The Wrong Guy Member

    Defiant Hillary Clinton Still Releasing Book Tuesday, Even Though At Least 10 Men Think She Shouldn’t

    By Evan Hurst, Wonkette, September 11, 2017


    If you have the Facebook or the Twitter, you have likely seen somebody repost an article along the lines of “Why Hillary Clinton Should Take A Hike And Go Away And Shut Up Forever.” If you clicked on it, you know what it said. If you didn’t, you still know what it said.

    Despite how at least 10 men have been struck with the completely original idea of writing a Tumblr-quality screed about STFU HILLARY OMG, she, defiant as always, has not notified her publisher that she wishes to cancel the release of her book, What Happened, and moreover, she hasn’t notified her real estate agent that would like to purchase a cave at the bottom of the sea to live in for the rest of her days, so she doesn’t offend anyone ever again. You may pre-order your copy of said book right here!

    PFFFFFFFFT, Hillary. Like anybody’s going to read her dumb book, which we ordered today. Probably just gonna give it to the Wonka-dog and watch her judgmentally refuse to even chew it up, since it’s probably just a bunch of secret Goldman Sachs speeches anyway.

    Anyway, Vogue has a really nice new excerpt! (Click here for the last excerpts we wrote about!) In it, H. Rodham writes about her marriage to B. Clinton, why she hasn’t acceded to many people’s requests that she divorce him, and what it was like having him by her side in the hours after she “lost” the election. (Those are our “quotation marks,” lest one of the self-appointed arbiters of Hillary Clinton’s behavior find himself in a tizzy because SHE’S NOT TAKING RESPONSIBILI-TAH!!!!@!!1!!1benghazi!!!!)

    Not only is Hillary Clinton not divorcing Bill Clinton, she says she’d make the same decision she made in 1975 to marry him if she had it to do all over again. And don’t worry, because it’s DEFINITELY your business, she addresses the elephant in the room, assuming we’re in a 1990s room with an elephant:

    I know some people wonder why we’re still together. I heard it again in the 2016 campaign: that “we must have an arrangement” (we do; it’s called a marriage); …

    By which she means fuck you.

    … that I helped him become president and then stayed so he could help me become president (no); that we lead completely separate lives, and it’s just a marriage on paper now (he is reading this over my shoulder in our kitchen with our dogs underfoot, and in a minute he will reorganize our bookshelves for the millionth time, which means I will not be able to find any of my books, and once I learn the new system, he’ll just redo it again, but I don’t mind because he really loves to organize those bookshelves).

    Oh man, that would piss us off. Remind us to NEVER marry Bill Clinton, lest he start rearranging shit constantly.

    Instead of re-litigating when and how many times Bill Clinton bang-sexed a lady what was not his wife, Hillz talks about all the millions of great things in her marriage, not least of which are their daughter and grandchildren. She notes that she and Bill definitely made that happen, and moreover, that she still REALLY LIKES HIM:

    He has a temper, but he’s never mean. And he’s funny, friendly, unflappable in the face of mishaps and inconveniences, and easily delighted by the world—remember those balloons at the convention? He is fabulous company.

    But come ON, Hillz, can’t we stick our faces in your private marriage life some more, because we are entitled to do that?

    We’ve certainly had dark days in our marriage. You know all about them—and please consider for a moment what it would be like for the whole world to know about the worst moments in your relationship.


    The excerpt ends with Clinton sharing how she spent the hours after she gave her concession speech, dressed in purple, as was Bill:

    It takes about an hour to drive from Manhattan to our home in Chappaqua. I absolutely love our old house. […] All I wanted to do was get inside, change into comfy clothes, and maybe not answer the phone ever again.

    She says she wore yoga pants and a fleece that day and slept a lot and that she was “grateful for the one billionth time that [she] had a husband who was good company not just in happy times but sad ones as well.” (When she says “happy times,” she means when she is doing Benghazi with her emails in the #Pizzagate basement with the haint of Vince Foster, probably.)

    We are so excited for our book to arrive in the mail! Aren’t you? If you’re not, be sure to fill out a comment card and send it to Eat Me at Your Mom dot com.

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    Will President Trump Pardon Disgraced Ex-Sheriff Lee Baca Next?

    Lee Baca, 75, was sentenced to three years in prison in May for his conviction on charges of conspiracy to obstruct justice, obstruction of justice and making false statements.

    In the wake of a controversial pardon for convicted ex-Arizona sheriff Joe Arpaio, will President Trump also pardon disgraced ex-Los Angeles County Sheriff Lee Baca?

    Baca's attorney Monday refused to comment when asked if there's any possibility of a presidential pardon for his client. Baca is fighting to stay out of custody while he appeals his conviction for conspiring to derail an FBI probe into corruption in the jail system.

    "I can't comment one way or the other," Baca's attorney Nathan Hochman said.

    Hochman was asked if Baca or anyone on his legal team had approached the White House about a possible pardon, or if there had been any contact withpresidential officials.

    "I understand" the question, Hochman said, but he declined to respond further.

    Baca, 75, was sentenced to three years in prison in May for his conviction on charges of conspiracy to obstruct justice, obstruction of justice and making false statements.

    In a nine-page ruling, U.S. District Judge Percy Anderson found in July that Baca had "failed to raise a substantial question likely to result in reversal or new trial."

    Hochman said he plans to present evidence to show that a reversal is warranted based on judicial error and Baca should remain free while those issues are explored.

    After Trump publicly speculated about a pardon for Arpaio, the president announced Friday that he had granted the pardon.

    Arpaio is the former sheriff of Maricopa County in Arizona. He was found guilty in federal court of criminal contempt. He ignored an order to stop his deputies from detaining people just because the law enforcement officers thought individuals looked like illegal immigrants.

    Trump said Arpaio has "done a great job for the people of Arizona, he's very strong on borders, very strong on illegal immigration, he is loved in Arizona.

    "I thought he was treated unbelievably unfairly when they came down with their big decision to go get him."

    Without any comment from Baca's attorney, it's difficult to know what Trump thinks of Baca.

    During Baca's two trials, prosecutors described the ex-lawman as being the top figure in the multi-part conspiracy, which also involved his former right-hand man, Paul Tanaka, and eight deputies who took orders from the sheriff.


  6. The Wrong Guy Member

    Exclusive: Russia Used Facebook Events to Organize Anti-Immigrant Rallies on U.S. Soil | The Daily Beast

    Pushing fake news was just one component of the Russian campaign to shape American minds. Part two: organizing anti-immigrant events echoing themes from the pro-Trump press.


    Russian operatives hiding behind false identities used Facebook’s event management tool to remotely organize and promote political protests in the U.S., including an August 2016 anti-immigrant, anti-Muslim rally in Idaho, The Daily Beast has learned.

    A Facebook spokesperson confirmed to the Daily Beast that the social-media giant “shut down several promoted events as part of the takedown we described last week.” The company declined to elaborate, except to confirm that the events were promoted with paid ads. (This is the first time the social media giant has publicly acknowledged the existence of such events.)

    The Facebook events—one of which echoed Islamophobic conspiracy theories pushed by pro-Trump media outlets—are the first indication that the Kremlin’s attempts to shape America’s political discourse moved beyond fake news and led unwitting Americans into specific real-life action.

    “This is the next step,” Clint Watts, a former FBI agent and expert on Russia’s influence campaign, told The Daily Beast. “The objective of influence is to create behavior change. The simplest behavior is to have someone disseminate propaganda that Russia created and seeded. The second part of behavior influence is when you can get people to physically do something.”

    Last week Facebook acknowledged for the first time that Russia used false identities and about 3,000 ads to spread politically divisive posts to Americans before and after the election. The content, according to an expert on Facebook’s advertising system, was likely seen by between 23 and 70 million people, based on the $100,000 ad buy alone.

    Much of the Russian Facebook propaganda campaign has since been deleted. But bits and pieces remain visible in search engine caches, including a 2016 notice on Facebook Events—the site’s event management and invitation tool—announcing an August 27 rally in a rural Idaho town known to welcome refugees.

    “Due to the town of Twin Falls, Idaho, becoming a center of refugee resettlement, which led to the huge upsurge of violence towards American citizens, it is crucial to draw society's attention to this problem,” the event notice began. The three hour protest was titled “Citizens before refugees”, and would be held at the City Council Chambers beginning at 11:00 am. The notice provided the street address and ended with a fiery exhortation.

    “We must stop taking in Muslim refugees! We demand open and thorough investigation of all the cases regarding Muslim refugees! All government officials, who are covering up for these criminals, should be fired!”

    The event was “hosted” by “SecuredBorders,” a putative U.S. anti-immigration community that was outed in March as a Russian front. The Facebook page had 133,000 followers when Facebook closed it last month.

    Although 48 people clicked that they were “interested” in the protest, only four said they went to City Council Chambers that day, according to the event page, possibly because it was a Saturday and the Council was not in session. It is also possible to claim attendance on Facebook at an event that didn’t exist. Some of the profiles of interested rallygoers listed themselves as Twin Falls residents.

    Facebook did not explain if the “several promoted events” were upcoming ones at the time of the account deactivation or were events that had already occurred at the time of deactivation. But the spokesman confirmed that the “promoted” events were paid events, akin to the inflammatory ads that the company disclosed last week.

    Far-right, pro-Trump firehoses Breitbart, InfoWars, and WorldNetDaily had pushed a series of stories implying immigrants were taking over Twin Falls since the beginning of 2016. The stories reached a fever pitch in the month before SecuredBorders’ event.

    A WorldNetDaily writer called Chobani’s plan to hire immigrants to work at the Twin Falls plant an “Islamic surge” in a January 2016 piece once titled “American Yogurt Tycoon Vows to Choke U.S. With Muslims.” (That post’s headline has since been changed, and the “Islamic surge” wording was removed.)

    One InfoWars article claimed that Chobani’s workers were responsible for a “500 percent increase in tuberculosis in Twin Falls.”

    InfoWars and Alex Jones published videos with the titles “MSM Covers For Globalist’s Refugee Import Program After Child Rape Case” and “Idaho Yogurt Maker Caught Importing Migrant Rapists,” which have since been removed.

    When Chobani sued InfoWars over the claims in April, Jones initially claimed that he was “not backing down, I’m never giving up, I love this” and that “I’m choosing this as a battle. On this I will stand. I will win, or I will die.”

    Jones settled three weeks later, and was forced to issue a retraction of the false stories InfoWars invented about immigrants in Twin Falls. Some of the offending articles and videos have since been removed.

    Breitbart, which was not sued by Chobani, still has a story titled “TB spiked 500 percent in Twin Falls During 2012, As Chobani Yogurt Opened Plant” on its website.

    (Tuberculosis cases rose from 1 to 6 in 2012, then dropped back down to 2 in 2013. There is no proof in the article tying tuberculosis to immigrants.)

    The tuberculosis story was posted one day before SecuredBorders’ real life rally was set to take place in Twin Falls.

    The story was one of dozens of negative Breitbart stories about immigrants in Twin Falls in August of 2016. In the month before SecuredBorders created its Facebook event, Breitbart posted 37 articles about immigrants in Twin Falls.

    Many of the stories, like one titled “Twin Falls Rape Special Report: Why Are the Refugees Moving In?” revolve around what Breitbart called a “gang rape” that Twin Falls County prosecutor Grant Loebs said was misreported.

    “There was no gang rape, no knife attack, and we did not charge anybody with rape because no rape occurred,” Loebs told the Magic Valley Times News.

    “There is a small group of people in Twin Falls County whose life goal is to eliminate refugees, and thus far they have not been constrained by the truth.”

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    Sputnik, the Russian news agency, is under investigation by the FBI

    By Hunter Walker and Michael Isikoff, Yahoo News, September 11, 2017


    The FBI recently questioned a former White House correspondent for Sputnik, the Russian-government-funded news agency, as part of an investigation into whether it is acting as an undeclared propaganda arm of the Kremlin in violation of the Foreign Agents Registration Act (FARA).

    As part of the probe, Yahoo News has learned, the bureau has obtained a thumb drive containing thousands of internal Sputnik emails and documents — material that could potentially help prosecutors build a case that the news agency played a role in the Russian government “influence campaign” that was waged during last year’s presidential election and, in the view of U.S. intelligence officials, is still ongoing.

    The emails were turned over by Andrew Feinberg, the news agency’s former White House correspondent, who had downloaded the material onto his laptop before he was fired in May. He confirmed to Yahoo News that he was questioned for more than two hours on Sept. 1 by an FBI agent and a Justice Department national security lawyer at the bureau’s Washington field office.

    Feinberg said the interview was focused on Sputnik’s “internal structure, editorial processes and funding.”

    “They wanted to know where did my orders come from and if I ever got any direction from Moscow,” Feinberg told Yahoo News. “They were interested in examples of how I was steered towards covering certain issues.”

    It is not clear whether the agent and prosecutor who questioned Feinberg were acting as part of special counsel Robert Mueller’s broader investigation into Russian efforts to disrupt the 2016 election and possible links to the Trump campaign. “We are not confirming whether specific matters are or are not part of our ongoing investigation,” a spokesman for Mueller emailed. A spokesman for the Justice Department declined to comment, and the FBI did not respond to questions.

    But the inquiry comes at a time when members of Congress and others have pushed the Justice Department to strengthen its enforcement of the FARA, especially as it relates to the operations in Washington of two Russian news organizations, Sputnik and RT (formerly known as Russia Today).

    “This is incredibly significant,” said Asha Rangappa, a former FBI counterintelligence agent and now an associate dean of Yale Law School, about the bureau’s questioning of the former Sputnik reporter. “The FBI has since the 1970s taken pains not to be perceived in any way as infringing on First Amendment activity. But this tells me they have good information and intelligence that these organizations have been acting on behalf of the Kremlin and that there’s a direct line between them and the [Russian influence operations] that are a significant threat to our democracy.”

    Sputnik is owned by Rossiya Segodnya, a Russian government media operation headed by Dmitri Kiselyov, a belligerent television broadcaster who is known as Putin’s “personal propagandist” and has been sanctioned by the European Union in response to Russia’s intervention in Ukraine. On its website, Sputnik describes itself as a “modern news agency” that “covers global political and economic news targeting an international audience.”

    Contacted by Yahoo News, Sputnik’s U.S. editor in chief, Mindia Gavasheli, said, “Any assertion that we are not a news organization is simply false.” He also said he was unaware of the FBI probe. “This is the first time I’m hearing about it, and I don’t think anyone at Sputnik was contacted, so thank you for letting us know,” Gavasheli said.

    Gavasheli attributed the push to have Sputnik register through FARA to paranoia surrounding Russia. “I think it tells about the atmosphere of hysteria that we are witnessing now,” Gavasheli said. “Anything being related to Russia right now is being considered a spycraft of some sort.”

    Shortly after this story was published on Monday, a Sputnik spokeswoman released a statement saying the company reached out to the Justice Department after being alerted to the investigation by Yahoo News.

    “Unfortunately our requests to the Justice Department for information has not been answered to date,” the statement said. ” We are more than happy to answer any questions the DOJ or the FBI might have.”

    The statement also defended Sputnik as “a news organization dedicated to accurate news reporting.”
    “Our journalists have won multiple media awards throughout the world. Any assertion that Sputnik is anything but a credible news outlet is false,” the statement said.

    Both Sputnik and RT were identified in a U.S. intelligence report in January as being arms of Russia’s “state-run propaganda machine” that served as a “platform for Kremlin messaging to Russian and international audiences.” As an example, the report said, Sputnik and RT “consistently cast President-elect Trump as the target of unfair coverage from traditional US media outlets that they claimed were subservient to a corrupt political establishment.”

    The investigation appears to center on whether Sputnik should be covered by the foreign agents registration law, a 1938 act passed by Congress to combat Nazi propaganda. The law mandates that foreign entities seeking to influence American public opinion and engage in lobbying must file detailed reports with the Justice Department on their funding and operations. If the Justice Department concludes that Sputnik is covered by the law, its executives in the U.S. could face criminal charges and fines, while the news agency’s reports would have to be explicitly labeled as foreign propaganda rather than presented as news.

    There is an exemption under the law for media organizations that engage in legitimate news-gathering activity. But Feinberg, the former Sputnik reporter, said the FBI agent and Justice prosecutor who interviewed him focused their questions on how Sputnik determined what stories it would cover, where its directions came from and what he knew about its sources of funding.

    (Yahoo first learned about the FBI inquiry from a U.S. intelligence source. Feinberg then confirmed he was interviewed and showed the business cards of the FBI agent and Justice Department lawyer who questioned him.)

    While his instructions as White House correspondent came from the senior editors and news directors at Sputnik’s Washington office, Feinberg said these supervisors regularly “would say, ‘Moscow wants this or Moscow wants that.’”

    The thumb drive of emails and other documents that Feinberg turned over to the FBI contains messages that could shed light on Sputnik’s funding, its operations in Washington and how it makes editorial decisions. It includes documents Feinberg submitted on behalf of Sputnik to obtain congressional press credentials in which he confirmed that the Russian government is the company’s main funding source.

    The questioning of Feinberg, Sputnik’s former White House correspondent, came just two weeks after Yahoo News published an interview in which he claimed he was fired by Sputnik’s D.C. bureau chief for refusing orders to ask the president’s press secretary about a since-discredited Fox News report in a televised briefing. That report claimed that WikiLeaks obtained internal Democratic National Committee emails not from material hacked by Russian intelligence services, as the U.S. government has asserted, but from a low-level DNC staffer, Seth Rich, who was murdered on the streets of Washington in July 2016. (Fox has since retracted the report.)

    Feinberg, who first made his allegations on May 26, the day he left Sputnik, has also claimed the company pushed him to ask questions that suggested the Syrian regime of President Bashar Assad, who is a staunch ally of Russian President Vladimir Putin, was not behind chemical attacks in that country. Feinberg said the interviewers specifically asked him about a piece he wrote detailing these claims that was published by Politico on Aug. 21. A spokeswoman for Sputnik has previously denied Feinberg’s allegations and told Yahoo News his contract with the company “was not renewed due to performance-related issues.”

    The FBI reached out to Feinberg shortly after another former Sputnik staffer, Joseph John Fionda, sent a letter to the Justice Department’s national security division detailing a series of similar accusations against the news organization and requested that it be investigated for FARA violations.

    In a brief conversation over an encrypted messaging app, Fionda told Yahoo News he also sent “a big packet” of information to the division on or about Aug. 15.

    In his letter to Justice, Fionda said he was employed by RIA Global LLC, a media company associated with Sputnik, from Sept. 5 to Oct. 19, 2015. During that time, Fionda wrote, Sputnik conducted “a perception management information warfare program” about Russia’s military involvement in Syria. He said the news organization falsely described Russia’s targets in that country as “terrorists” affiliated with the jihadist group ISIS when, he asserted, the Russian forces were actually bombing other anti-Assad rebel groups.

    In another instance, Fionda said, an article he wrote in September 2015 about President Obama’s repatriation of Guantánamo detainees to a number of countries was “censored” to omit any reference to the fact that six of the detainees were being sent back to Russia, where they were later imprisoned.

    Fionda said his last straw with Sputnik came on Oct. 19, 2015, after excerpts of private emails from then-CIA Director John Brennan were published by a hacker on Twitter. He claimed Gavasheli, Sputnik’s U.S. editor in chief, asked him to “obtain the CIA Director’s stolen emails” from the hacker.

    “I refused because I believed this was a solicitation to espionage,” Fionda wrote.

    When he refused the order, Fionda wrote that Gavasheli told him to “get the f— out of my office” and then fired him. Gavasheli, in his interview with Yahoo News, denied this and said Fionda was fired after falsely claiming his father was ill in order to take time off from work.

    The probe into Sputnik also comes shortly after the Russian news agency announced a significant expansion in the U.S. capital: It took over a popular Washington FM radio station dedicated to playing bluegrass music and replaced it with an all-talk format with hosts who regularly criticize U.S. policies — as well as one co-host who is a former Breitbart News reporter and Trump supporter. “I’m sure you heard a lot about us,” Gavasheli was quoted as saying by the Washington Post. “Now you can actually listen to us.”

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  8. My favorite Obama quote EVER
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    Spokeswoman: Porn video 'liked' by Ted Cruz Twitter account removed | CNN


    A spokeswoman for Texas Sen. Ted Cruz said Tuesday that a pornographic video that was "liked" by his account has been removed and reported to Twitter.

    "The offensive tweet posted on @tedcruz account earlier has been removed by staff and reported to Twitter," tweeted Catherine Frazier‏, Cruz's senior communications adviser.

    Her response came after Twitter users noticed late Monday that Cruz's account liked a tweet from an account titled "Sexuall Posts" that had a porn video attached.

    It's unclear who was responsible for the like or if Cruz's account was hacked. Frazier did not address how the tweet happened, and Cruz's office did not immediately respond to a CNN request for additional comment.

    Cruz hadn't addressed the issue on his Twitter account as of early Tuesday morning.


    Ted Cruz's Twitter account liked a hardcore pornography tweet | USA TODAY


    We’re just going to bet that Sen. Ted Cruz isn’t having a great Tuesday morning.

    Overnight, the Texas Republican’s Twitter account favorited a tweet featuring hardcore pornography.

    Later that morning, the senator told reporters that the like was "inadvertent" and a "mistake" caused by several people having access to the account.

    "There are a number of people on the team that have access to the account and it appears that someone inadvertently hit the like button," he said, according to NBC News.

    Continued at

    More: Cruz Twitter
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  13. Reading through everything it's beginning to take on the appearance of false alarms in that just as we think the end of Trump is in sight and impeachment looms closer it stalls and we're no further forward than we were last month.

    I'm bored to the back teeth waiting for Trump's departure form the White House and resigned to the fact we're stuck with him for four long years.

  14. Allowing Russian prostitutes to piss on his face was very in American of Donald Trump.

  16. All of Trumps words about how bad white nationalists are just got kicked under the bus. Again. He's back insisting there were "good people" at the Charlottesville protest.
    There's a bit of comedy in this endless horror of a nazi supporting president. The White House released a picture on the meeting calling the Senator "Tom" instead of his name, Tim.
    He also took a trip on a government plane to Kentucky on the day of the full eclipse.
    The administration’s Marie Antoinette and King Louis XVI must go
    She posted on-line, tagging her clothes as she left the government plane with designer names.
    She taps her little Jimmy Choo's at the tweet
    Her reply escalated further as she touted her family’s wealth and personal “sacrifice.”
    The best part:
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  19. The Internet Member

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  20. White Tara Global Moderator

    Perhaps this for some of them, is the excuse to dump him, the get out clause they were waiting for. Dump the chump without any loss of face.
  21. The Internet Member

    There's no such thing as grassroots anything anymore. When a bunch of people on Twitter burn MAGA hats and Breitbart writes an article, odds are the people behind Breitbart marblecaked the hat burning into existence.

    These people don't react; they strategize. So what's the strategy, the positive aim? "Dumping Trump" is only a negative aim. There must be a positive one in there someplace.
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  22. Hat burning isn't the answer, for all the good it's doing you might as well burn your toe nail clippings.
    It's symbolic , a demonstration by some who have met with the realization that Trump is not going to make America great, if anything he'll send it back to the dark ages of Jim Crow and worse if at all possible. Unfortunate but true.
    Trump's ineptitude has been all too apparent since the first day of his presidency and from that day to this he's learned nothing .
    He struts around hiring , firing and tweeting nonsense in a bid to impress upon anyone gullible enough to believe him in order to create the impression of a man hard at work and doing his best with a bunch of chumps who know nothing. The harsh reality is regardless of the personnel he surrounds himself with his own inexperience and childish temperament are at the forefront in everything .
    The louder he shouts the more incompetent he appears and nothing can hide it.

    People need to express their anger and frustration with Trump , they want it known how let down they feel and this symbolises it.

    But it's never going to be enough.

    Trump must go and until impeachment or an act of God, burning hats , effigies or whatever is going to be commonplace for some time to come.

    It's a sad situation that while Trump has the keys to the kingdom he's doing his level best to turn away anything and everything he finds offensive and in the process turning America in on itself.
    Instead of making friends he's making more and more enemies. Even today after the latest terror attack in the United Kingdom Trump's knuckles were wrapped by the PM over his insensitive and belligerent choice of words in his tweet.

    For him being president of the USA is nothing more than a giant ego trip, something he can boast about to his friends always assuming he has any.
    Being President is just one more item on Trump's bucket list but with a difference, it's on a scale hitherto unprecedented .

    This is the ultimate power trip of a lifetime and Trump is on it. And he'll cling on for dear life for as long as he can, better get used to it.

    He will lie, chest and swindle every day he's in office because he does not care about the welfare of America or understand how to run it nor will he try.

    He's in it for himself and himself alone, and if push comes to shove he'll sell his family down the river to save his own skin.

    In this circus he's the ringmaster , the trapeze artists and the lion tamer and everything in-between including the clowns.
  23. Sorry about the TL;DR .
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  26. Donald Trump is the global equivalent of your local village idiot, and the great thing is he doesn't realise it.
    The sharp end of that particular stick is he's also president of the USA.

    For now.
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    As to clowns
    They are marching on Washington again
  28. "Loser terrorists must be dealt with in a much tougher manner.The internet is their main recruitment tool which we must cut off & use better!
    -Donald J. Trump
  29. His lack of understanding about the internet and how it works is an endless source of amusement to everyone reading his remarks on the subject.

    He can't seem to grasp the fact that if it's off, then it's off. And if its off it can't be used better.
    Poor Donald his reality is a strange one.

    Maybe he could be turned off and put to better use like a large draught excluder or feed for pigs.

    Just putting it out there.
  30. Trump feels threatened by the internet because he doesn't understand it and is unable to control what information becomes available online about him.

    It makes him feel undermined when he sees what's out there , and if there was a simple on off switch he'd have pulled it by now or ordered someone to do it for him.

    Instead he's floundering around shouting about it being used for terrorist recruitment and the dissemination of fake news.

    It's another example in a long list of Trump's shortcomings and ineptitude.
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