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The Smoking Gun: Trump, The Least Charitable Billionaire

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    Amanda Katz ‏@katzish 28 minutes ago
    Jeez, now I feel sorry for her. Not assuming Melania knew this. Prev 1st lady is gorgeous brilliant Harvard lawyer w 1st-rate speechwriting.

    Amanda Katz ‏@katzish 27 minutes ago
    You're some ex-model who keeps to yourself, married to a rich megalomaniac, and they're like "Here, we wrote you a speech. Read it." You do.

    Amanda Katz ‏@katzish 24 minutes ago
    Of course I have no idea. But I assume Melania is being used as part of the stagecraft here. Surely someone knew they were setting her up.

    Amanda Katz ‏@katzish 21 minutes ago
    Just shaking my head. Don't know why this is the absolute last straw, but it is. You damn them as evil black Muslims but COPY THEIR SPEECH?

    Amanda Katz ‏@katzish 14 minutes ago
    Media twitter is losing it -- we get fired, rightly, if we do what Melania's speechwriters just did. But does the rest of America care?

    Amanda Katz ‏@katzish 13 minutes ago
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    Like seriously how do we even go to bed now. What horrifying/ridiculous things will happen while we sleep?

    Michael Crowley ‏@michaelcrowley 12 minutes ago
    in hindsight it did seem odd when Melania talked about the challenges of being a black woman at Princeton.

    Andrew Ti ‏@ANDREWTI 8 minutes ago
    It seems like Melania plagiarized Michelle's speech, but listen carefully, she whispers "for white people only" at the end of each sentence.

    Matt Pearce ‏@mattdpearce 3 minutes ago
    Here it is: Video of Melania Trump and Michelle Obama's speeches side-by-side.
    https://www.facebook.com/latimes/videos/10154443320378010/

    Similarities surface between Melania Trump's RNC speech and Michelle Obama's 2008 convention speech
    http://www.latimes.com/nation/polit...c-speech-appears-to-1468901655-htmlstory.html

    Tom Nichols ‏@RadioFreeTom 5 minutes ago
    Ask yourself if anyone would be giving a pass to Michelle Obama if she'd nicked a chunk of a Laura Bush speech.

    I'll wait.
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    The Internet Reacts To Melania Trump Quoting Rick Astley’s ‘Never Gonna Give You Up’ During RNC Speech

    Tonight, Melania Trump took the stage at the Republican National Convention and delivered a solid speech in support of her husband, Republican party nominee, Donald Trump.

    During her speech, Melania unwittingly quoted Rick Astley’s “Never gonna give you up” and the Internet found it to be hilarious.

    https://cdn2.streamable.com/video/mp4-mobile/r879.mp4

    http://brobible.com/life/article/me...k-astleys-never-gonna-give-you-up-rnc-speech/
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  5. On CNN Don Lemon is doing really well with this. His discussion group includes Trumpers and they are squirming around about this, rehashing how she great she is. The points made - the part of the speech she plagerised was about honesty. She's saying she wrote it, not a speech writer.
    The campaign isn't admitting there was plagerised. She says now it was a team of speech writers who wrote it. Who is the blonde Trump mouthpiece who always wears red? She's hysterical here. She repeats how Melena is a immigrant legally etc and tries to talk over questions. Her underarms must be moist at this point.
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    Cant see it being an accident that part of the speech was plagiarized, Wow just wow, :eek:
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    Campaign denies Melania Trump's speech plagiarizes parts of Michelle Obama's Speech | CNN

    http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/19/politics/melania-trump-michelle-obama-speech/

    Trump Campaign Chief Somehow Blames Hillary Clinton For Melania Plagiarism Flap | Mediaite

    http://www.mediaite.com/online/paul...-melania-trump-plagiarism-theres-no-cribbing/

    Top Trump Aide Denies Melania Trump Lifted From Michelle Obama Speech | Talking Points Memo

    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/paul-manafort-melania-trump-did-not-plagiarize

    Paul Manafort: There was no 'cribbing' of Michelle Obama's speech by Melania Trump | The Washington Times

    http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/jul/19/paul-manafort-there-was-no-cribbing-michelle-obama/
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    I don't know why people are so shocked?
    SHE MARRIED THE DONALD!
    Nuff said
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    Queen ‏@QueenWillRock 1 hour ago
    An unauthorised use at the Republican Convention against our wishes.
    - Queen

    Brian May on Trump Using Queen’s Music: ‘We’d Never Give Permission’

    "This is not an official Queen statement, but I can confirm that permission to use the track was neither sought nor given."

    http://radio.com/2016/07/18/brian-may-trump-queen-music/

    Queen takes issue with Trump's use of 'We Are The Champions'

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...a-donald-trump-we-are-the-champions/87284780/
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    Trump Campaign Manager On Melania's Plagiarism: It's Hillary's Fault | ThinkProgress

    http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2016/07/19/3799622/manafort-hillary-sexist/

    Paul Manafort Pits Melania Trump & Hillary Clinton Against One Another In A Moment Of Sexist Desperation | Bustle

    http://www.bustle.com/articles/1734...ton-against-one-another-in-a-moment-of-sexist

    Paul Manafort and the Trump Campaign Set a New Bar for Mendacity | The Atlantic

    http://www.theatlantic.com/politics...-paul-manafort-and-the-trump-campaign/491978/
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    At least a dozen California GOP staffers quarantined in virus outbreak at convention | Los Angeles Times

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    At least a dozen California GOP staff members at the Republican National Convention have been quarantined in their hotel rooms after becoming ill with what appears to be a highly contagious norovirus, also known as the cruise-ship virus, according to officials from both the California GOP and local health agencies.

    “It looks like norovirus,” said Pete Schade, the Erie County health commissioner. His department collected fecal samples from the afflicted staffers Tuesday morning and planned to take them to a state lab in the afternoon.

    “As soon as we know a little bit more about what we’re dealing with for sure, we’ll have a better way of dealing with future precautions.”

    The 550-member delegation was warned of the outbreak by state GOP officials in an email at 2:40 a.m. Tuesday. They were advised to avoid shaking hands with others, to wash hands frequently, to avoid sharing food and to not use the delegation buses to the convention if they have any symptoms — all difficult rules to follow at a political convention.

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    http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-california-republicans-norovirus-20160719-snap-story.html
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    Ah, I see, since the VP is in line for the presidency, we use less rigorous standards. It's so hard to keep up with these evolving rules for who we can hold accountable, and who we can't. Ah well, it makes for great political theater even if we get bad government as a result.
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    Former Trump Business Associate Speaks Out About Sexual Assault Allegations Against Trump, As Media Blackout Continues

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    Television news all but ignored Jill Harth’s allegations of illegal sexual harassment and assault against Donald Trump, her former business associate, when The New York Times reported on the story in May. In the months since, major news networks have continued their underreporting about the serious allegations facing the presumptive Republican presidential nominee.

    In an exclusive interview posted on July 18 with ABC News legal affairs anchor and LawNewz founder Dan Abrams, Harth reiterated her allegations that Trump illegally sexually harassed and assaulted her when they worked together in the early 1990s. Although Harth’s claims have been reported before in the context of Trump’s well-known misogyny -- most recently by The New York Times and The Boston Globe -- media outlets continue to ignore the fact that Harth is specifically alleging unlawful conduct on the part of the self-proclaimed “law and order” candidate.

    The last time Harth’s allegations were prominently reported was on May 14 by the Times, in a front page story based on over 50 interviews with women who have dealt with Trump as well as court records.

    Continued here:
    http://mediamatters.org/blog/2016/0...ssault-allegations-against-trump-media/211704
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    Breaking: Plagiarized portions of Melania Trump’s RNC speech not in speechwriter’s draft, NBC reports

    And with that, blame for the error might lie only with Melania and not a saboteur speechwriter

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    As the delegate roll call took place, NBC News’ Hallie Jackson provided MSNBC viewers an update to the parallel story of Melania Trump’s alleged plagiarism of Michelle Obama’s 2008 Democratic National Convention speech on Monday night.

    Trump’s campaign maintained on Tuesday that Melania’s speech was not plagiarized, however Jackson reported the GOP nominee’s wife added the cribbed bits after accomplished speechwriter Matt Scully — hired to write the speech — turned in his draft.

    Trump backers and party officials bent over backwards to defend Melania — with RNC Chief Strategist Sean Spicer citing the women’s speeches’ similarities to dialogue from child’s television show “My Little Pony.”

    Short of proving Melania knowingly plagiarized, the development places unequivocal responsibility on Mrs. Trump, and not her speechwriter, perhaps putting to rest any sabotage theories.

    Source:
    https://www.salon.com/2016/07/19/br...peech_not_in_speechwriters_draft_nbc_reports/
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    How Melania Trump’s Speech Veered Off Course and Sparked an Uproar | The New York Times

    Excerpt:

    It was Jared Kushner, Mr. Trump’s son-in-law and top adviser, who commissioned the speech from Mr. Scully and Mr. McConnell — and praised their draft. But Ms. Trump decided to revise it, and at one point she turned to a trusted hand: Meredith McIver, a New York City-based former ballet dancer and English major who has worked on some of Mr. Trump’s books, including “Think Like a Billionaire.” It was not clear how much of a hand Ms. McIver had in the final product, and she did not respond to an email on Tuesday.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/20/us/politics/melania-trump-convention-speech.html
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    Melania Trump Did Not Plagiarize Her RNC Speech



    The Late Show with Stephen Colbert

    Stephen invites his friend Melania Trump to defend herself against charges that she stole parts of her RNC speech from Michelle Obama.
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    Melania Trump’s Speechwriter Takes Responsibility for Lifted Remarks | The New York Times

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    A longtime employee of the Trump Organization took responsibility for lifting two passages, from a 2008 speech by Michelle Obama, for Melania Trump’s address on Monday at the Republican National Convention, saying that it was an innocent mistake.

    The employee, Meredith McIver, who has worked on some of Mr. Trump’s books, is the first person to publicly apologize for an error at any point during the Trump campaign. The New York Times on Tuesday night identified Ms. McIver as playing a role in the speech, although the extent of her involvement was unclear, and the Trump campaign declined to answer questions. Ms. McIver was brought in after Ms. Trump discarded the majority of a draft written by two professional speechwriters.

    Ms. McIver identified herself in an unusual statement posted on the Trump campaign’s website, hours after the chief strategist, Paul Manafort, said the issue was manufactured by the news media. And it breathed new life into a story now in its third day.

    “In working with Melania on her recent first lady speech, we discussed many people who inspired her and messages she wanted to share with the American people,” Ms. McIver wrote.

    “A person she has always liked is Michelle Obama,” she added. “Over the phone,” Ms. Trump “read me some passages from Mrs. Obama’s speech as examples. I wrote them down and later included some of the phrasing in the draft that ultimately became the final speech. I did not check Mrs. Obama’s speeches. This was my mistake and I feel terrible for the chaos I have caused Melania and the Trumps as well as to Mrs. Obama. No harm was meant.”

    She said that she had “offered my resignation to Mr. Trump and the Trump family but they rejected it,” and that “Mr. Trump told me that people make innocent mistakes and we learn and grow from these experiences.”

    She continued: “I asked to put out the statement because I did not like seeing the way this was distracting from Mr. Trump’s historic campaign for president and Melania’s beautiful message and presentation. I apologize for the confusion and hysteria my mistake has caused. Today, more than ever, I am honored to work for such a great family.”

    Continued here:
    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/21/us/politics/melania-trump-speech-meredith-mciver.html
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    The Media Totally Blacks Out Serious Sexual Assault Allegations Against Trump | Mediaite

    Last paragraph:

    I’ve never met Donald Trump or Jill Harth, and I have no personal knowledge of what happened between the two of them. But I have observed lots of witnesses. Only the very few are good liars. If Jill Harth is fabricating her allegations against Donald Trump, she should definitely pursue a career in show business, because the girl’s got talent.

    http://www.mediaite.com/columnists/...ual-assault-allegations-against-donald-trump/
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  35. Pam Bondi is speaking at the Republican National Convention tonight. Interestingly, in response National Review (an OG conservative magazine founded by William F. Buckley) senior editor Ramesh Ponnuru tweeted:

    https://twitter.com/RameshPonnuru/status/755923511068266496

    * * * * * BEGIN QUOTATION * * * * *

    Bondi reportedly rescheduled an execution to accommodate a fundraiser

    http://www.tampabay.com/news/politi...d-to-accommodate-pam-bondi-fundraiser/2140891

    * * * * * END QUOTATION * * * * *
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    To expand this
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    Ted Cruz's non-endorsement might cripple Donald Trump’s entire candidacy | The Telegraph

    Never hire the Trump Organization to run your political convention. They’ll screw it up.

    One thing we expected of the Trump nomination was that it would be beautifully choreographed. Trump is the TV candidate – he is where he is because he manipulated the media so well. And he’s running for the presidency on the claim that he can build anything – towers, walls, great Americas – so, again, we assumed that he’d build a fine convention. Instead, it’s been a disaster. Starting with the stage. It makes the whole damn thing look like a Scientology awards ceremony.

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    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...ement-might-cripple-donald-trumps-entire-can/
  38. A racist Trump delegate got her credentials taken away after posting "nigger" on Facebook. Stay classy.
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    Jill Harth, woman who sued Trump over alleged sexual assault, breaks silence | The Guardian

    Harth stands by claims of incident described in 1997 lawsuit as ‘attempted rape’ and wants apology from Donald Trump: ‘Don’t call me a liar’

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...xual-assault-allegations-jill-harth-interview

    Lisa Bloom: Jill Harth Doesn’t Want Donald Trump’s Money | Alan Colmes Radio Show

    Wednesday during “The Alan Colmes Show” broadcasting live from the Republican National Convention in Cleveland OH, Alan spoke with attorney Lisa Bloom, who is representing Jill Harth, who has accused Donald Trump of sexual assault and has filed a lawsuit against him.

    Bloom told Alan the details of Harth’s accusations, which date back to when she was a makeup artist for a Donald Trump project in the 1990s. Bloom also explained why her client doesn’t want to be paid off, but just wants an apology and a retraction from Donald Trump, who has gone on the offensive against her.

    http://radio.foxnews.com/2016/07/20/bloom-jill-harth-doesnt-want-donald-trumps-money/

    https://twitter.com/JillHarth

    https://twitter.com/LisaBloom
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