Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by hushpuppy, Apr 12, 2011.
Who Watches the Poll Watchers? | Salon
Trump and the RNC have goaded supporters into harassing minority voters on Election Day. Can the courts stop them?
A big, dirty secret from Donald Trump’s tax returns has been exposed | The Washington Post
RNC's Lawyers Try To Distance Themselves From Trump's "Rigged Election" Claims | BuzzFeed News
Under a longstanding, court-enforced agreement, the Republican National Committee is barred from engaging in the type of “ballot integrity” efforts that Donald Trump has been encouraging in recent months.
Donald Trump Hotel Tied To Criminal Investigation In Brazil | Huffington Post
Government investments into the hotel are under investigation over their size, structure and risk.
Trump Organization Owns More Than 3,600 Domain Names, Many of Which Bash Trump | Slashdot
KKK’s official newspaper supports Donald Trump for president | The Washington Post
Current status: 2 horsemen
He asks Monica Lewinsky if he can borrow her blue dress to get a DNA sample to prove his dad is Bill.
Louis C.K. Is All In For Hillary | Team Coco
Conan highlight: "If you vote for Hillary you're a grownup; if you vote for Trump you're a sucker; if you don't vote for anyone, you're an asshole."
I am not sure who gave this post a thumbs down. Maybe they thought it was a mean punch line to a bad joke, but I just googled it and it's true if one is to believe Radar and Alex Jones, etc. Danney Williams DID ask her. Weird...
The 'sample' as it were, would be pretty highly degraded by this point would it not? That being said, I am sure that his DNA was rescued closer to the time and sits in a little tiny vial...somewhere.
No, the dress was preserved. His DNA is on the campaign trail somewhere, I presume...wha you mean in a vial?
Unless the dress has been preserved in refrigerated storage somewhere sealed in plastic then the DNA would be unreliable at this point, and even if well preserved the potential for contamination and therefore invalidation of the results would be too great. As to the vial I was referring to, there is not the least doubt in my mind that at some point in the legal fracas surrounding Lewinskygate, some smart person somewhere saw a sample taken, DNA tested and preserved in an airtight vial somewhere. The question would be who has it, and at what point would that become valuable to them to disclose or keep under wraps. /self entertaining tinfoil speculation
Donald Trump Dealt With Members of Organized Crime | Wall Street Journal
Donald Trump’s real-estate developments in Atlantic City and New York led him to deal with members of organized crime and people like the late Robert LiButti, a racehorse trader and gambler.
WSJ’s Michael Rothfeld joins Lunch Break to discuss.
Video shows Trump with mob figure he denied knowing
A newly uncovered video appears to contradict Donald Trump’s claim that he never knew a high-stakes gambler who was banned from New Jersey casinos for alleged ties to organized crime.
The reputed mob figure, Robert LiButti, can be seen standing alongside Trump in the front row of a 1988 “WrestleMania” match in Atlantic City, N.J. LiButti wasn’t there by accident, according to his daughter, Edith Creamer, who also attended the event. “We were his guests,” she told Yahoo News in a text message this week.
The video was given to Yahoo News by a confidential source who discovered it in the online archives of World Wrestling Entertainment, the sponsor of “WrestleMania.”
The video appears to lend new support to assertions Trump once had close relations with LiButti, who was banned from the state’s casinos in 1991 because of his ties to Mafia boss John Gotti, then the chief of the Gambino crime syndicate. Separately, the New Jersey Casino Control Commission that same year levied $650,000 in fines against the Trump Plaza hotel over its dealings with LiButti, who gambled huge sums at the hotel’s casino. LiButti died in 2014.
“That’s definitely Bob LiButti standing right next to Donald Trump,” said David Cay Johnston, an author and former Pulitzer Prize-winning New York Times journalist who, as a reporter for the Philadelphia Inquirer, extensively interviewed the gambler in the early 1990s. At the request of Yahoo News, Johnston reviewed the video of the “WrestleMania IV” contest, held at the Atlantic City Convention Hall on March 27, 1988. “It’s at an event that Bob described to me a quarter century ago when I spent an afternoon in his Saddle River home,” Johnston added. “The ‘WrestleMania’ event is just one of many times that Trump was close to Bob, who was the biggest loser at Trump casinos and therefore Trump’s most important customer.”
In the video, LiButti can be seen alongside Trump as the real estate mogul greets the ring announcer, sportscaster Bob Uecker, and later as Trump kisses on the cheek special guest Vanna White. LiButti can also be seen sitting throughout the 3 1/2-hour event in a front-row seat next to Trump and his then wife, Ivana.
Asked to comment on the video, Trump campaign spokeswoman Hope Hicks replied by email: “This was obviously a massive event, which took place decades ago. Mr. Trump attended many similar events with thousands of people during this time period.”
In the past, Trump has consistently downplayed his relationship with LiButti. “If he was standing here in front of me, I wouldn’t know what he looked like,” Trump told the Philadelphia Inquirer when he was first questioned by Johnston about LiButti, in 1991.
Earlier this year, when questioned again about LiButti by Yahoo News, Trump emailed a reporter: “During the years, I very successfully ran the casino business, I knew many high rollers. I assume Mr. LiButti was one of them, but I don’t recognize the name.”
The video could raise fresh questions about two separate investigations by casino regulators that led to the huge fines levied in 1991. In one of those cases, Trump’s hotel was fined $200,000 for violating state anti-discrimination laws. Investigators found that the casino accommodated LiButti’s demand — couched in what one state official described as the “vilest” language, including racial and obscene slurs — that blacks and women be kept away from him at the gambling tables. Trump was never questioned as part of the state’s investigation, files reviewed by Yahoo News show.
A Yahoo News story last March documented multiple dealings between LiButti, a professional horse breeder, and Trump in the late 1980s and early 1990s. Creamer, LiButti’s daughter, said then the casino mogul was a “liar,” adding that “it pisses me off that he denies knowing my father.” In fact, she said, her father gambled millions of dollars at the Trump Plaza, flew frequently on Trump’s private Super Puma helicopter and partied aboard his yacht.
Jack O’Donnell, former president of Trump Plaza, said that Trump and LiButti even did a business deal together. During a trip the two of them took aboard Trump’s private helicopter, Trump agreed to pay $500,000 for one of LiButti’s prized thoroughbreds — a racehorse he promptly renamed “D.J. Trump.” But when the horse later went lame, Trump “reneged” on the deal, O’Donnell said.
Questions arose again about their dealings in July when a new book by Johnston, “The Making of Donald Trump,” charged that the mogul “lavished gifts” on LiButti, while also trying to seduce Creamer, who was married at the time. The mogul’s advances toward Creamer enraged LiButti, who, in Johnston’s account, threatened Trump, saying: “Donald, I’ll f***ing pull your balls from your legs.”
Trump, in court depositions and interviews with casino regulators, has consistently denied knowingly associating with accused mobsters, often in language similar to what he said about LiButti. “If he were sitting in the room right now, I really wouldn’t know what he looked like,” Trump testified in a video deposition for a civil lawsuit in 2013 when asked about Felix Sater, a Russian émigré who was convicted in 2000 in a federal racketeering case over a “pump and dump” stock scam that involved members of four New York mob families. (As ABC News reported last December, Trump and Sater were photographed together in 2005 and appeared on stage together at a 2007 launch party for the Trump SoHo Hotel. Sater later went to work for the Trump Organization, carrying a business card that read: “Senior Advisor to Donald Trump.”)
Trump has never been charged with a crime, or lost a casino license, over allegations of ties to mob figures. But LiButti’s dealings with Trump were at one point especially sensitive for Trump’s Atlantic City casino business. The mob figure’s regular patronage of the Trump Plaza — he was described by one former executive as the casino’s biggest customer by far — prompted multiple investigations by New Jersey regulators. It also led regulators to permanently “exclude” LiButti from entering any casino in the state, after receiving an undercover state police tape in which LiButti repeatedly referred to Gotti as “my boss.”
In one of the 1991 cases, the New Jersey Casino Control Commission fined the Trump Plaza $450,000 after finding that the hotel gave LiButti $1.6 million worth of luxury autos, including Ferraris, Bentleys and Rolls-Royces, that he then exchanged for cash — a violation of state laws at the time that barred cash “comps” for high rollers. (Among other gifts the Trump casino gave LiButti: paying $104,338 for five European vacations and one to California; $279,978 for tickets to the Super Bowl, boxing matches and other sporting and theater events; $121,712 for jewelry; and $40,020 for champagne that included 178 bottles of Cristal Rosé, valued at $225 a bottle.)
The separate discrimination case stemmed from complaints filed by nine African-American and female employees at the hotel. According to the Casino Control Commission, documents on the case, LiButti flew into a rage whenever he lost money at the crap tables, flinging dice and gaming chips around the casino and once grabbing the stick from a stickperson’s hand and breaking it in half.
He also made it clear “he did not want women, blacks or other minorities dealing or supervising his games,” according to one filing by the state division of gaming enforcement. He referred to one Trump Plaza floor person as a “dumb c***” and “dumb bitch, ” another as a “Jew broad” and an African-American dealer as a “black bastard.”
State officials argued that, rather than removing some of its employees from LiButti’s crap tables, the hotel should have removed LiButti from the casino. But it didn’t, the officials contended, because he was such a valuable customer.
“Certainly, it would have been so much better if the casino itself had thrown LiButti out at the time that he committed these acts, but they didn’t because he was a very high-roller, obviously,” Mitchel A. Schwefel, then a New Jersey assistant attorney general in charge of the investigation, said at a March 13, 1991 hearing on the case. “If LiButti had been a five- or 10-dollar customer, they would have thrown him right out, literally without asking any questions. The problem again is that the casino did not want to get rid of a high-roller of his dimension.”
Trump’s lawyers aggressively challenged the charges of discrimination, seeking to discredit the testimony of its employees who filed complaints and arguing it had had “no formal policy” of removing African-Americans and women from LiButti’s crap tables.
“Trump Plaza is being found in violation based only on an aura of discrimination,” said Brian Spector, the lawyer for the Trump hotel. “Something may look like discrimination, feel like discrimination and even smell like discrimination, but you need discriminatory intent. It simply hasn’t been proven.”
But the Casino Control Commission didn’t buy that argument and, on June 5, 1991, doubled the fine recommended by the State Gaming Division from $100,000 to $200,000 to reflect what one commissioner contended was the “gravely serious” nature of the offense.
Source, with video:
White nationalists plot Election Day show of force | POLITICO
KKK, neo-Nazis and militias plan to monitor urban polling places and suppress the black vote.
Neo-Nazi leader Andrew Anglin plans to muster thousands of poll watchers across all 50 states. His partners at the alt-right website “the Right Stuff” are touting plans to set up hidden cameras at polling places in Philadelphia and hand out liquor and marijuana in the city’s “ghetto” on Election Day to induce residents to stay home. The National Socialist Movement, various factions of the Ku Klux Klan and the white nationalist American Freedom Party all are deploying members to watch polls, either “informally” or, they say, through the Trump campaign.
The Oath Keepers, a group of former law enforcement and military members that often shows up in public heavily armed, is advising members to go undercover and conduct “intelligence-gathering” at polling places, and Donald Trump ally Roger Stone is organizing his own exit polling, aiming to monitor thousands of precincts across the country.
Energized by Trump’s candidacy and alarmed by his warnings of a “rigged election,” white nationalist, alt-right and militia movement groups are planning to come out in full force on Tuesday, creating the potential for conflict at the close of an already turbulent campaign season.
“The possibility of violence on or around Election Day is very real,” said Mark Potok of the Southern Poverty Law Center. “Donald Trump has been telling his supporters for weeks and weeks and weeks now that they are about to have the election stolen from them by evil forces on behalf of the elites.”
It is difficult to know at what scale these plans will materialize, because Anglin and his fringe-right ilk are serial exaggerators, according to Potok. And rather than successfully uncover widespread voter fraud — for which there is a lack of compelling evidence — or successfully suppress minority turnout, Potok said the efforts are most likely to backfire.
“If on the morning of Election Day it turns out that we have white supremacists standing around looking threatening at polling places, I think it would arouse anger,” he said. “People would vote just to prove they’re not being intimidated by these radical racists.”
Despite Trump’s claims that American democracy is compromised by massive voter fraud, so far in this election only one person — a Trump supporter in Iowa who attempted to vote twice — has been arrested for it. That has not stopped fringe groups already inclined to believe that minorities are stealing the election from heeding Trump’s call to monitor voting in “certain areas.”
In an email, Anglin, the editor of the neo-Nazi Daily Stormer website, said he had already led a “big voter registration drive” and that he was “sending an army of Alt-Right nationalists to watch the polls.” Anglin said he was working in conjunction with the alt-right website TheRightStuff.Biz.
A representative of that site wrote in an email: “We are organizing poll watchers in urban areas to cut down on the most traditional type of voter fraud. We also will have stationary cameras hidden at polling locations in Philadelphia, to monitor anyone that comes in to vote and make sure that the same people are not voting at multiple locations. If we see people voting in multiple locations the footage will be submitted to the [Federal Election Commission] as well as put out on social media to undermine the legitimacy of [Hillary] Clinton should she steal the election.”
The representative, who did not provide his name, went on to explain, "Many polling locations are in schools, and black schools are so disorderly that pretty much any official-looking white person with a clipboard can gain access to them ahead of time and set up a hidden camera. You don't really ever even have to speak with an adult. Simply walk in like you belong there and no one even asks you why you are there. So we usually go in teams of two, one person driving and one person dressed as a blue collar worker with a clipboard, and we set up a hidden camera in the school cafeteria. Go during lunchtime and the teachers are all so busy trying to contain the kids that no one says anything. We already have a few set up."
Black church in Mississippi vandalized with words 'Vote Trump' | New York Daily News
A black church in Mississippi was set on fire and the words "Vote Trump" were spray-painted on the building's side, and authorities are investigating the acts as hate crimes, officials said.
The fire at the 111-year-old Hopewell Missionary Baptist Church in Greenville was reported after 11 p.m. Tuesday. Fire crews arrived to find a charred church defaced with pro-Trump propaganda.
Mr. Jameson Neat @MrJamesonNeat 6 minutes ago
Trump child rape victim Jane Doe comes forward today being represented by @LisaBloom
Christopher Hayes @chrislhayes 38 minutes ago Manhattan, NY
Lisa Bloom just said her client was "living in fear" and did not want to show her face, and ended the press conference.
Joy Reid @JoyAnnReid 30 minutes ago Manhattan, NY
Trump accuser calls off presser, says she's afraid to come forward amid death threats. "She's in terrible fear" says attorney @LisaBloom
RiotWomenn @riotwomennn 1 minute ago
To be clear - Court documents are filed in the name of "Jane Doe." Event happened when she was 13. Doubt she was asked her name at the time.
Donald Trump’s Income Isn’t Always What He Says It Is, Records Suggest | The New York Times
On the financial disclosure forms that Donald J. Trump has pointed to as proof of his tremendous success, no venture looks more gold-plated than his golf resort in Doral, Fla., where he reported revenues of $50 million in 2014. That figure accounted for the biggest share of what he described as his income for the year.
But this summer, a considerably different picture emerged in an austere government hearing room in Miami, where Mr. Trump’s company was challenging the resort’s property tax bill.
Mr. Trump’s lawyer handed the magistrate an income and expense statement showing that the gross revenue had indeed been $50 million. But after paying operating costs, the resort had actually lost $2.4 million.
Mr. Trump has repeatedly held out his financial disclosures as a justification for breaking with tradition and refusing to release his personal tax returns. “You don’t learn that much from tax returns,” he said in September during his first debate with Hillary Clinton. “You learn a lot from financial disclosure. And you should go down and take a look at that.”
But an examination of his tax appeals on several properties, and other documents obtained by The New York Times through Freedom of Information requests, shows that what Mr. Trump has reported on those forms is nowhere near a complete picture of his financial state.
The records demonstrate that large portions of those numbers represent cash coming into his businesses before covering costs like mortgage payments, payroll and maintenance. After expenses, some of his businesses make a small fraction of what he reported on his disclosure forms, or actually lose money.
In fact, it is virtually impossible to determine from the forms just how much he is earning in any year.
Mr. Trump appears to have used a provision in federal ethics laws that allows business owners to list gross revenue, as opposed to net income after expenses, on their disclosure forms. But he does not seem to have completely acknowledged that choice. Rather, he has suggested that the figures on the form represent money in his pocket.
People who have worked with Trump say he can't read.
Trump apocalypse watch
I thought this New Yorker article was insightful:
Donald Trump has never been closer to the presidency than he is at this moment
If you’re a Democrat, the FiveThirtyEight forecast is probably making you feel anxious right about now.
Just last week, Nate Silver’s polls-only forecast gave Hillary Clinton an overwhelming 85 percent chance of winning.
But as of Thursday morning, her odds have fallen down to 66.9 percent — suggesting that while Donald Trump is still the underdog, there’s a one-in-three shot he’ll end up the next president.
You’ve Been Trumped Too: it’s the film Donald Trump doesn’t want you to see | The Guardian
By Anthony Baxter
When I found out about Trump’s treatment of a Scottish family in his attempt to force them off their land I had to make a film about it. Now he wants to sue.
You’ve Been Trumped Too | Facebook
“We’ve heard an awful lot about what Trump says, less is seen about what he does”
See the Free Online Premiere – You've Been Trumped Too on Facebook Live tonite, 8pm EST!
Donald Trump’s FBI: James Comey’s department is filled with pro-Trump, anti-Hillary Clinton partisans | Salon
The bureau seems to be filled with partisan hacks hell-bent on investigating Hillary Clinton.
Indictment related to Clinton Foundation ‘likely’ – FishTank | RT America
The FBI has been dropping bombs on the US presidential campaign of Hillary Clinton and the biggest bomb may have yet to drop. According to a new report, sources within the FBI say, barring any sort of obstruction, an indictment of Hillary Clinton related to the Clinton Foundation is “likely.” RT America’s Alexey Yaroshevsky has the story.
Then, RT America’s Manuel Rapalo reports on the latest John Podesta emails released by WikiLeaks.
Finally, RT America’s Lindsay France breaks down the latest presidential polling numbers in the FishTank.
U.S. court deals Trump a setback in poll-monitor fight | Reuters
In a blow to Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump, a U.S. judge on Thursday upheld a Pennsylvania state law that could make it difficult for his supporters to monitor Election Day activity in Democratic-leaning areas.
It's a good analysis of what Trump's threats to impeach Clinton mean.
To check paternity, just need a sample from Bill and the kid.
Julian Assange In Leaked Emails Interview, Declares ‘Russian Government Is Not The Source’
If anyone is still in doubt as to the source of Hillary Clinton’s leaked e-mails, in a new interview Julian Assange has just gone on record stating unequivocally that the Russian government had absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with leaking the information to WikiLeaks.
DNC hack investigator: Despite Assange's comments, attack was Russian
The co-founder of the company that originally attributed the hacking of Democratic outlets to Russia is standing by his work despite Julian Assange's statement that WikiLeaks did not receive the stolen emails from Moscow.
Yeah and being the upright dude that Bill is you would think he would have been forthcoming (no pun intended) but yet....no dna 4 u kid
Isn't there still DNA on the lewenski dress?
i have wondered about that for a bit, why would you keep his dna on your dress?
NBC News’ Pete Williams Reports FBI ‘Really Isn’t’ Conducting Clinton Foundation Investigation | Mediaite
Appearing on MSNBC’s MTP Daily today, NBC News’ justice correspondent Pete Williams refuted much of the reporting from Wall Street Journal and Fox News regarding a likely indictment regarding an FBI investigation into the Clinton Foundation. Fox’s Bret Baier later backed off slightly, saying the indictment comment was “inartfully answered.”
Speaking to host Chuck Todd, Williams claimed that via his own law enforcement sources, there doesn’t actually appear to be much of an investigation, let alone one that will result in indictments.
“There really isn’t one,” Williams answered Todd regarding the status of the investigation. “Few want to call it an investigation. That’s a term of art in the FBI. There was an initial inquiry that was opened a couple months ago based largely on media reports and a book called Clinton Cash.”
Williams also addressed a Fox story that states the there was a 99% chance that five foreign intelligence entities breached Hillary Clinton’s private email server. Williams tossed cold water on that one as well, stating that there is “no such view” and that they “found no positive proof of successful hacks.”
Meanwhile, ABC News also said there was no merit to the reports that the FBI is seriously investigating the Clinton Foundation.
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There's DNA on that island I bet <puke>
I thought he sat while Monica did her bizzness?
Hey, I meant to tell you...on that video with the spider in the water? I watched it the other day. If you watch really closely, there's the tiniest snail (without its shell) and it starts to crawl up the spider's leg. The spider gets startled and runs away, missing a totally good meal. I giggled.
Yah drama. Also there is a sailboat.
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