The "Still in" Scientology list I got this idea from squirreling RightOn's list of Ex-Scientologists. This list can have emails and information on people still in the church and it could help for a couple reasons 1. People who are still in the closet will want their name OFF that list 2. Show how little members they really have 3. Allow us to try and turn them one by one 4. Everyone at some point googles their own name (EVERYONE) and we can use this list to point them to some information they don't want to see eg. Tommy Davis roll etc. 5. Watching the list get smaller when the cult dies would be mucho lulz Just a thought, if you think it is a good idea RightOn will do it I KNOW HE WILL
Re: The "Still in" Scientology list <yawn> Bored troll making suggestions. If this was serious, bored troll would do it hiimself.
Re: The "Still in" Scientology list OP is failfag. For one thing there is the Watcher scientology completion page. For another thing, does OP have a membership database????
Re: The "Still in" Scientology list I like it!!! And actually from two days ago I started doing a list of local Scilons I know are still IN and ones that are not active. So, Smurf is gonna make it?
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Re: The "Still in" Scientology list I really don't know if there are few enough to get a good list, we are talking 1,000's of people (like 40-50K) with no way to confirm the list.
Re: The "Still in" Scientology list oh yes, there is a way: pictures, internet profiles, media etc etc...
Re: The "Still in" Scientology list I do not support this idea in the least, and I can think of several reasons why: * As MrFyde pointed out, not very easily verifiable. * What will it accomplish? A bunch of angry scilons, with more fuel to use AGAINST anonymous ("those freaks are bunch of creepy stalkers!"). * There are more Scientologists out there than the OP realizes. Maintaining a list of them and trying to keep it up to date is not practical. * It's a fail approach. A list of people who have spoken out has practical use (empowering members who are thinking about leaving); this doesn't. * Furthermore, volunteering RightOn to do this asinine project is beyond rude. TL;DR: Fail. In the end, a Scientologist will not be "turned" by us spamming them, but by doing their own research to satisfy their own curiosity. The best we can do is provide information for them to find when searching (i.e. whoisdavidmiscavige.com, youtube vids, wikipedia, etc).
Re: The "Still in" Scientology list No opinion on the OP's idea, could be fail or could be the most awesome thing. One thing I will disagree with (actually the whole subject is worthy of debate) is the concept that one thing or another will be what does it. It might spam emails about bullshit that makes all those people search the net for why they are getting spammed? Who the fuck knows, what I do know is that if you aint think with portals you end up with yawnfests.
Re: The "Still in" Scientology list Of course everyone is free to do what they want. I just happen to know first hand the effectiveness on focusing on more prudent areas.
Re: The "Still in" Scientology list Is this list meant to confuse people? I mean the general public has a short attention span and will be confused if there are 2 lists floating around. Or was that the intent? What are you going to say, this is a list of people out and who spoke out and this is a list of people still in? And WHY do we want to show ANYONE how many current members there are? I'm sorry you did all this work.... but I have more than enough to do with the other list. People can tell you their own feelings about your list, I say nay. sorry
Re: The "Still in" Scientology list It wouldn't bother me except you seem to think this will get scilons who are secretly out to ask off the list. If they are keeping silent it's because they either have family still in the cult and don't want to disconnect, or their livelihood depends on it at this time, or they are scared shitless of OSA. No matter what their reasoning is we can't force them to speak out against the cult or to blow officially. Blackmail is OSA's tactic, not ours.
Re: The "Still in" Scientology list Precisely. Putting the crimes of organized Scientology aside for a moment, consider what it would be like if we were making a list of some other demographic. List of Active Venison Eaters Have at it!! As with any group of people, there are plenty of well-intentioned Scientologists. If we wish to abolish the system rather than the people, our efforts are best spent on highlighting the existing abuses.
Re: The "Still in" Scientology list Well, I don't live in NJ and I'm not actually eating venison at this moment but please put my name on the list anyway. Venison works and it helps people.
Re: The "Still in" Scientology list Wait... I am starrting another list.... People Who Don't Eat Venison. Another list I was kicking around, (because of all the time I have)...was a list of people who make lists and their shoe sizes. ok, now I am being cranky ... sorry
Re: The "Still in" Scientology list Thank you so much! RightOn, did you get that? Change the name of the list to People Who Eat Venison please.
Re: The "Still in" Scientology list It's going to be tough to accurately put together a list of a couple hundred thousand people.
Re: The "Still in" Scientology list ok, i will get RightOn it. tee hee I will make an appendix for People Who Dont' Eat Venison and list them according to their shoe size. slight derail/ EDITED so not to bump. Dont forget Cruise's list Notice how he bosses Letterman around in the beginning. Very pompous. My favorite on the list is #4. I am sure all these things were run by him first before he agreed to read it of course. I know this is old news, but I thought it was appropriate.
Re: The "Still in" Scientology list The only value I see in a list like this would be if someone was looking for a missing friend or relative. This would mean we would need the location of said scilons so they would know where to look for them. Like - John doe - anywhere CA USA or put the org they dwell at. This would allow local exes to verify the list as many of us know the faces we see at raids. As far as knowing how many active scilons there are? I dont care. thats not what I need to know. This list should only have confirmed current scilons on it. Ill start John Allender - San Jose mission - San Jose CA Mark Warlick - San Jose Org - San Jose CA Elisabeth Dawn Uvizl - LRH Exhibition - Hollywood CA David Miscavige - Int Base - CA
Re: The "Still in" Scientology list cut & paste the name "Herro" a couple hundred thousand times, works for me.
Re: The "Still in" Scientology list Like I said before, I think this will confuse people. Don't forget, people are going to put the "people who have left and spoke out" list all over the internet, and on a website hopefully. Do we want two huge lists out there? Besides Scio staff moves around SO much, how would anyone be able to keep up with it? Why would we want to show Scientology's member numbers? Why would we want to help them? I mean, there is a LOT of Scios out there. That many people on a list can look pretty damn huge. That can make outside people think, hey, if THAT many people are on the list, it must be great...maybe I will check it out. Think about it, you will be spending all this time listing current members, and it could end up benefiting them in the long run.It would take a while for anyone to leave and get off the list, and in the mean time it's free advertising for recruitment for them. They can change the freakin' title to "look how many people are in COS" You would have to weigh up the pros and cons, I see more cons IMO. Sorry. my 2 cents
Re: The "Still in" Scientology list Yes a list that size would be very tough to make, but fortunately the OP's only talking about a list of current scientologists
Re: The "Still in" Scientology list We just need a wiki so we can all contribute when we feel like it or have new info. And have a part for "last seen" so there is know confusion. have a part for "last seen" so there is know confusion. Scientology already has this data compiled - People out here dont and might like to know where they are without posting about it. Again, they already have this info. Then when someone leaves there will be incentive to speak out if they want the name removed. Why dont we just take this the same way wachters site did and just update the info on our own wiki. If no one wants to add info then so be it.
Re: The "Still in" Scientology list Know grammar, no confusion. No grammar, know confusion. But you're right about the wiki and the last seen. If we do this, that's how. /r/ leak of this
Re: The "Still in" Scientology list I KNOW there is list of Scientologists already on the watchers site, but you have to know who to look for there, don't you? This list will put it all out there and people will be able to see how many scios there are. I really hope that this list doesn't help to recruit anybody. good luck! It's a tedious task! and if it is on Wiki, can't people edit it? Thats why I don't think the list of "who is out and spoke out" should go on wiki
Re: The "Still in" Scientology list Man, you faggots fail so hard sometimes. The best hope you can have is to digitize some magazines or the Ideal Org donation lists. Then you can slap down names of people recently taken courses or donations. But what the fuck is the point? The obviously already have their names published, so HURR DERP DURR.... You stupid faggots. If you want to do something, why not gather a link to all the Ideal Org donation newsletters that list everyones names and put their donation amounts into a spreadsheet. Why not go to the THE AUDITOR thread and put all the number of clears per year into a spreadsheet and make an awesome chart. Or even take a list of all the clears from the 60s and see if any of them are still active.
Re: The "Still in" Scientology list That's a good idea. I also suggest having a field in the "out" database for "clear number" -- that internal Scn index number where they track how many suckers got to "clear" ahead of you.
Re: The "Still in" Scientology list OP here, Ok, so I am sorry to offend you oh so much. This was just an idea that I was voicing because I have temporary access to hundreds if not thousands of emails, phone numbers and home addresses of some hardcore Scientologist and I was trying to find a use for it. I wanted to know if the effort was going to be worth it and I got my answer, tyvm. Well I guess there is no use for it and I should just go DIAF then. I thought RightOn was doing a bang up job on his list and might want to help manage this one too (if anyone thought it was a good enough idea). The reason I cannot is that I always post Anonymously which doesn't allow me to edit posts. I am sorry that my idea is super bad and RightOn (the leader of anonymouse) has used up all of Gods quota for "good ideas".
Re: The "Still in" Scientology list I would recommend using it to send them some of the letters from the left side column on this blog: Ask the Scientologist They were written by a former scientologist with the specific intent of getting current scientologists to start questioning some of the things the cult has been telling them. Also, buck up, little camper, and develop some thicker skin...this lot around here is surly to just about everyone - don't take it personal.
Re: The "Still in" Scientology list So does that mean you have time to do the People Who Eat Venison List? RightOn is a little swamped leaderfagging anonymouse.
Re: The "Still in" Scientology list You are free to do whatever you want. This is anonymous biatch. The opinions expressed here are merely opinions. If you can do something useful, do it. That is all! Btw... if you'd like to leak the DB... I'm sure we had have some happy anons.
Re: The "Still in" Scientology list Temporary? What does that mean? You can eyeball them, but can't copy? And can't snarf them up and sit on 'em for awhile. Until you have time or energy to work at them. Or can find someone else to hand them off to. Patience, padawan. You're welcome very much. There is no use for it and you should just go die in a fire. I think RightOn is doing a terrible job, and is bringing all our stats down, and should die in a fire too. Right after we kick him to the curb and elect a new leader. Assuming it's a "he". I thought RightOn was a shared account used by a team of dedicated anonymous men and women, but :shrug: Lrn 2 use your anonymous powers. You don't need to be able to edit posts to work this. I am secretly extremely pleased that your idea is super bad, and RightOn (our leader, but not for much longer, LOL) has used up all of Xenu's quota for "good ideas" because it means they will die in a fire all the sooner.
Re: The "Still in" Scientology list fix'd (no offence Herro, but really, best estimates are far less than 100k cash-cowz and true believers) regardless, wtf is the point, CoS can't even get an accurate count and warp any numbers they do have (we all know scilon fun wit numbers...Its 8 MILLIONS!......gah!), why would anyone even suggest such a waste of time thngy? Dunno. a good diversionary piece o' though. oi. I'm a-savin' this shirt, Zak gonna be warshin' it because of LOLOLOL! XP *cleans up lutz-messed self* XD
Re: The "Still in" Scientology list I counted 6 people in your list that have since routed out or blown from the cult.