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Discussion in 'News And Current Events' started by JohnDoe, Jan 19, 2012.

  1. JohnDoe Moderator


    http://www.csmonitor.com/Commentary...-with-Iran/Iran-is-chiefly-a-threat-to-itself
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  2. JohnDoe Moderator

    Now I just hope those in Washington read this and pay heed!
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  3. Anonymous Member

    not to be too much of a cynic, but my government is a brutal empire that wants to control more and more. We've been interfering with Iran for decades, so there's no real reason to think it will be any different. I do hope USG stays the hell out.
    I'm not holding my breath.
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  4. Anonymous Member

    It would be better for the Iranian people to violently overthrow their dictator themselves, not for someone else to do it for them. It worked for the U.S. in the late 1700s.
    It also has the tendency for a country to get 1000% more nuclear weapons pointed at them. The rest of the world calls that indoctrination into the We-Have-Nuclear-Weapons Club.
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  5. coskilla Member

    Iran is working on a weapon, ahmadinejad is a maniac and would love to send his people off to die. However the people of Iran know better.
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  7. Demented LRH Member

    I do not think that USA will attack Iran unless the Iran Navy will try to block Hormuz. But that is not going to happen, either because this Ayatollah bravado is designed to intimidate the Iranian opposition. The Ayatollah message is, “Look how powerful we are, we can threaten even Americans. We will squash you like a bug if you go against us.”
  8. Demented LRH Member

    According to Middle Eastern experts, Iran is trying to retaliate for the western sanctions by promising to block Hormuz, which could lead to increase in oil prices. The problem with this approach is that you cannot promise something like that indefinitely -- at some point no one will be taking your threats seriously.
  9. This is from Sephaonline. It's in both Farsi and broken English.

    Is this correct?

    http://sepahonline.blogspot.com/

    خامنه ای در اندیشه آغاز جنگ جهانی

    سپاه آنلاین:منابع اطلاعتی سپاه آنلاین مستقردر بیت رهبری امروز خبر ازتشکیل جلسه فوری آیت الله خامنه ای با حضور شخص آیت الله مصباح یزدی ومشاوران دینی ایشان با مضمون استراتژی نظام دادند.نشست مذبور بعد از اقامه نماز ظهر اغاز وتا سه ساعت بطول انجامید.البته ناگفته نماند چهره های شاخصی نیز همچون حسن عباسی ،رحیم پور ازغدی وسادات حسینی حضور داشتند.موضوع جلسه دامن زدن به جهاد جهانی و گسترش بحران بین المللی و برقراری عدم ثبات در دول غرب و شرق به جهت فراهم آوردن زمینه های ظهور امام زمان بود.

    در این جلسه تئوری جنگ و ایجاد بحران نظامی در 5 قاره بررسی شد ولذا در پرتوی روشن شدن مواضع حکومت اسلامی سناریوی مداخلات خارجی و نظامی نیروهای حزب الله در 5قاره جهان "جنگ بر علیه کفار" مرور شد. .
    همچنین آیت الله خامنه ای با تلاوت این ایه از قران أذن للذين يقاتلون في سبيل الله برای هم پیمانانش تصریح کرد:پروردگار طبق این آیه و نشانه ها امر بر جهاد علیه کفر کرده است و حال این وظیفه بر عهده ماست که با مدد و کمک امام عصر این مهم را به مقصود برسانیم.

    در ادامه خطابه مجلس را حسن عباسی بر عهده گرفت و چندین و چند راهکار عملی را بشمرد:

    1.اتخاذ شیوه های خشن و تروریستی بر علیه شخصیتهای برجسته اسلام ستیز و ضد مذهب البته در سرتاسر گیتی.

    2 اقدام به برهم زدن نظم عمومی و تشویش اذهان عمومی با توسل به راه همیشگی و البته سنتی حکومت اسلامی نظیر بمبگذاری در اماکن متبرکه و مقدس و بلافاصه بعد از آن ادعای دست داشتن عوامل استکبار جهانی در صنعت تروریسم بین المللی.

    3تحت فشارقرار دادن مولوی های سنی در ایران و تخریب چهره آنها درنظر جوامع عمومی

    4اقدام به سند سازیهای دروغین برپایه غیر مستقل بودن و وابسته به عوامل خارجی نشان دادن بزرگان دینی کشورهای اسلامی دیگر.
    5.تایید حکم آغاز عملیاتها و تحرکات نیروهای حزب الله درکشورهای آفریقا ،آسیای جنوبی ،آسیای شرقی واروپا

    6دامن زدن به شعله های اتش خشم مردم نا آگاه از امور منطقه علیه حکومت های ساقط شده چند کشور عربی که به تازگی تغییر ساختار حکومتی داده است.

    7ایجاد عملیات روانی با استفاده از شبکه های خبری در قالب آسیب به باور مردم برعلیه جنایات دولت سوریه و متوجه کردن اذهان به سمت کشور بحرین .

    8و مانند تمام برنامه های پیشین حکومت مبنی بر تقویت حزب الله لبنان بیش ازپیش برای امادگی جهاد پیش رو
    و بسیاری موارد دیگر:

    در این میان رحیم پور ازغدی با اشاره به این که عوامل حزب الله وانقلابی ایران وجهان توانایی ایجاد اغتشاش در چند کشور مورد نظر را در زمان ظهور در چشم به هم زدنی را دارا هستند گفت: جمهوری اسلامی امروز در موضع قدرت است و دشمنان اسلام از این موضوع در حراسند وتعبیر چند روز گذشته خامنه ای را در مورد نبودن در موقعیت شعب ابی طالب وبودن درموقعیت بدر وخیبر را بهترین تعبیر در حال حاضر برای شناساندن مواضع نظام اسلامی به جهان دانست.

    مصباح یزدی با اتخاذ سیاست سکوت در برابر ادعاهای مطروحه در حاشیه جلسه چندین بار خامنه ای را سید خراسانی خطاب نمود واز ایشان خواهش کرد زمانی که زنده است چشمش
    را به نور جمال مهدی موعود روشن نماید!!!

    سپاه انلاین به واسطه اینکه از نمودار وچارت طراحی های زمان جنگ احتمالی ایران به خوبی مطلع است وشناخت کلی و اساسی از نظریه وفلسفه دینی نظام حاکم بر ایران دارد خود را ملزم به هشدار دادن به هموطنان عزیز میداند .
    تازمان باقیست این نظام خونخوار را با اتحاد در هم شکنید در غیر این صورت شاهد حوادث تکان دهنده ای از طرف نظام در سال پیش رو خواهیم بود.
    پاینده ایران وملت ایران
    سپاه آنلاین

    Khamenei Thinking to Start War

    SEPAH ON LINE: Sources within the Sepah On line have informed about an urgent meeting between Khamenei, Ayatolah Mesbah Yazdi and other religious advisers of the leader, we should add that famous characters like Hassan Abbasi, Rahimpour Azghadi and Sadat Hosseini were present in this meeting. The meeting was to create a real international cause to destroy the stable relation between East and West as to prepare the coming of Imam Zaman (Mahdi)

    The meeting was held to provoke military confrontation between Muslim and nonmuslims forces and call for a Jihad against the pagans and nonbelievers. Then Khamenei quoted a verse from Koran "They Kill Those Who don't believe in Allah" for his companions, he added that Allah by this Verse has given an order and this order must be carried on by us which with the help and aid of Emam Asr (Imam Zaman)we will accomplish this holy task.

    Then Hassan Abbasi addressed the community and stated few orders and how to be carried out.

    1. How to act savagely against important personalities of Islam and fight them all over the country.

    2. How to create psychological panic within the population like create panic in public opinion, like bombing the sacred place and blaming it on western world.

    3. To force the Sunni and Molavi minorities blaming them publicly and giving them bad light.

    4. To prepare forged documents to blame them as agents for foreigners specially to none Shia Muslim countries.

    5. Improvement of a provocative Muslim movements of Hezbolah in African , Southern and Eastern Asia and Europe.

    6.To provoke the illiterate and prejudiced population of those Arab countries who have had a revolution or are not satisfied with their present leaders.

    7. To provoke people psychologically pro Syria and have them brain washed against Bahrain.

    8. To fortify the Hezbollah of Lebanon like before to be prepared for Jihad and many other cases.

    Rahimour Azghadi referred to the revolution and Hezbollah and stated that they are able to create a state of panic within an eye closing to enable the coming of Imam Zaman and added that the enemies of Islam are frightened and said that Khamenei's position to show the world that he can act as Shoaib Abi Taleb, and is in the position of Badr and Kheibar is the best moment to introduce the Islam Order to the world.

    Mesbah Yazdi onn is part few times called Khamenei as Seyed Khorasani and asked him to help him while in life to see Emam Zaman.

    As Sepah online is aware of all the charts and plans prepared for a possible war and has a good knowledge of the philosophy of the ruling religion feels responsible to warn all dear compatriots of this danger.

    I hope that with unity and force while still there is some time left we could break this Regime, otherwise we will witness horrible events in coming year.

    Long live Iran and Iranian Nation

    Sepah On Line
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  10. iraniam Member

    http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2012/01/will-israel-attack-iran-this-year/251959/
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  11. RoflCockter Member

    as much as I hate human life go to waste, it might be a good idea to intervene before they really do get the n-bomb :&/
  12. JohnDoe Moderator

    http://www.enduringamerica.com/home/2012/1/25/iran-special-5-very-bad-reasons-to-start-a-war.html
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    http://www.enduringamerica.com/home/2012/1/25/iran-special-5-very-bad-reasons-to-start-a-war.html
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  14. JohnDoe Moderator

    http://www.enduringamerica.com/home/2012/1/25/iran-special-5-very-bad-reasons-to-start-a-war.html
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  15. xenubarb Member

    I hear saber rattling from the west. HAJIME, BITCHES.
  16. Anonymous Member

    Will Israel Attack Iran This Year? Only if they are really bored.
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  17. lillylou Member

    If Israel attack Iran..hope (only this left) No...
    my personal opinion in general :
    Israel is a country very much appart special ; they don't care much about embargo(s and all that stuff.
    An important military part,
    The problem BIG BIG problem will be also the reactions of All the Middle East ? of North Africa too...
    A religion war ? (the pretext since so many centuries)...
    But :
    journalists, newspapers, tv, internet, etc : they are all , all of them keeping up, more and more about Iran having "now" the atomic bomb (as North Korea since a long time, but we don't talk much about North Korea) , and so on.
    But the rumor about Iran and the atomic bomb is been keeping up since a very long (years) time constantly.
    So people the other people now are afraid of Iran.
    For me the worth, the most dangerous : is population's collective hysteria.
    beside reading listening the news, I have no idea what will happen.
    I can only wish one thing : nothing.
  18. coskilla Member

    tl;dr however. i think it has been in the works for a long time. Iraq has no airforce so that give Israel free reign over the skies to attack Iran. US knows it and has helped by pulling out.
  19. Anonymous Member

    damn zionist!
  20. Anonymous Member

    damn antisemite!
  21. But Russia support them with Pro Air-Force and missile air defence system.
  22. Beijing Moscow and Iran are waiting for USA to strike. If America attacks Pakistan China will help Pakistan and they even said if America attacked Pakistan it means they attacked Beijing and Russia will have to respond too they did not forget how Americans breakdown Soviet Union in Afghan-Russia war. After the dissolution of the Soviet Union, the United States was left as the sole world superpower and if America attacks Pakistan then their best ally China is in and its the best time for Russia to make things even. Iran and America already hate each-other so no doubt about Iran. At the end India if Pakistan goes to war India will also respond no matter what because of 60 70 year old rivalry with Pakistan we just don't know who they gonna join (America or Russia cuz both are good friends India) but i am assuming America and NATO because they are more powerful.
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  23. World War Three began in 1982.

    In 1982, the USA sold the USSR defective microchips for their pipeline projects. The USSR installed the chips. The chips were deliberately defective. The pipeline blew up.

    WWIII is an information war. A soft war/softwar(e). Get used to it, because we are just at the end of the beginnings of WWIII.

    All the shenanigans going on with bullets and bombs are border skirmishes. The only war taking place globally is World War Three.

    The Original Logic Bomb

    [IMG]

    Target: Siberian gas pipeline in Soviet Russia

    Attacker: U.S. Central Intelligence Agency

    Damages: One of the scariest implications of cyberwarfare is that the damage isn't always limited to networks and systems. It can get physical, too. In 1982, the CIA showed just how dangerous a "logic bomb" — a piece of code that changes the workings of a system and can cause it to go haywire — can be. The agency caused a Soviet gas pipeline in Siberia to explode in what was described by an air force secretary as "the most monumental non-nuclear explosion and fire ever seen from space," without using a missile or bomb, but a string of computer code. Today, with the proliferation of computer control, the possible targets are virtually endless. Pictured above is William J. Casey, director of the CIA in 1982. (my emphasis).

    http://dvice.com/archives/2010/09/7-of-the-most-d.php
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  24. lillylou Member

    Yes,
    The list is so so long when we look/think about all the articulations.
    A big part of the world just sitting in such a big ...bomb (image)
    This week : US military intervention in Africa (the news said "to show to the world that the US is also a military power...") To show to who ? to the rest of the world not to africa.
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  25. iraniam Member

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articl...wrong-to-urge-a-second-front-war-in-iran.html
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  26. lillylou Member

  27. A bit of geography:

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  28. JohnDoe Moderator

    Thanks JBN!
    (I especially like it coz it says PERSIAN Gulf)
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  29. iraniam Member

    "World Must Act Against Iran Before It's Too Late"

    http://www.iranpressnews.com/english/source/116531.html
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  30. 00anon00 Member

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  31. iraniam Member

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  32. iraniam Member

    Will Israel Really Attack Iran?

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  33. 00anon00 Member

    Thought provoking as usual. Thanks.
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  34. lillylou Member

    http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news...syria-to-inform-un-resolution/article2318865/
    personal : paranoïa can now begin for the other countries (out of Middle East)
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  35. iraniam Member

    Oh My God, Tehran Almost Has The Bomb! (Repeat as Necessary)

    http://www.enduringamerica.com/home...-my-god-tehran-almost-has-the-bomb-repea.html
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  36. iraniam Member

    Iranian attack on America and allies increasingly likely – intelligence chief

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/jan/31/iranian-attack-america-allies-intelligence
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  37. lillylou Member

    http://m.news.com.au/MiddleEast/pg/0/fi956049.htm


  38. 00anon00 Member

    I'm lost. Did the government offer to let the UN stay longer for a longer audit?

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