Discussion in 'News and Current Events' started by rickybobby, Aug 21, 2013.
Back in the courtroom. We have a few minutes before things get going. We’ll try to type up a few more notes about George Spencer’s performance on the disqualify motion, which we said earlier was a long push uphill and didn’t seem to get a lot of traction with Judge Waldrip.
Spencer started out restating what he’d said earlier in his opening statement. (And come to think of it, how is George Spencer talking for an hour about this motion “testimony” anyway? There didn’t seem to be much of a reason for us to be kept from using the laptop. Oh well.)
Spencer specifically pointed to paragraphs 25 and 26 of Marty Rathbun’s affidavit, in which Rathbun said that he oversaw every aspect of Scientology’s legal affairs under David Miscavige, and for more than 20 years, the Office of Special Affairs, a part of CSI (Spencer’s client), answered to him.
When even a non-lawyer has been directly involved in legal matters, that person has confidential information, Spencer asserted.
Anybody still need copypasta?
From latest updates:
Makes perfect sense. If you're a Scientologist. How can any attorney worth their degree present this shit like they believe it?
The clams are led to believe they are Homo Novis, when, in fact, they are Homo Nonsense.
Chairman Clam tiny David Miscavige is telling his attorneys what to present in court, I presume.
He's probably listening in by phone. Recording bans are for wogs.
Marc H on TonyO blog said whichever douche is leaving is the one reporting to the midget
While you wait read this.
Scientology Stalkers Ruined My Life! Wife Of Ex-Scientologist Tells Court Church Harassed Her For Years
Reporting to Miscavige?
I'm telling you, someone at some RPF somewhere is getting the chairs set up for this.
The judge has gone into chambers to review case law. Hope we get a decision today!
Well, we can hope.
More overr at Tony O's blog, but for now this gem
The case so far....
David Miscavige should not be deposed or even involved in any way with this lawsuit because he is the ecclesiastical head of the church and not really anything else.
CSI is the bad guy. Sue them, long and hard.
"Just what does CSI do? " “They call it the mother church,” Strieber answered.
(remember now, they're saying to sue CSI and leave RTC out of it, mmk?)
“If I may, your honor. RTC holds the intellectual property,”
(not a church)
Douchebags can't even keep up with their own twisted story.
Good thing the judge seems to be.
You can't keep a story straight when there is no reasonable explanation.
welp! moving onward to Monday.
Do it right Drib!
I am just worried that the cult has the whole weekend to try to drum up something on this judge or sweeten the pot to sway his decision.
So the special appearance issue (whether RTC/David Miscavige should be part of the lawsuit) has been continued to October 18.
Meanwhile, he’s made no decision yet on the motion to disqualify.
Neither side really got anything at all today. And Waldrip made one utterance that suggests he is concerned about appeals.
It appears that he’s being very careful, and wants to think things over before making decisions. Good for him. Not so good for us. OK, heading to the bar.
what does this mean? if he is concerned about appeals than he is more likely to side with the cult?
Mosey gets to keep her lawyers. Otherwise, the judge woudln't have invited Ray and Lamont to compromise re depositions.
Happy Friday! I will resist being frustrated and enjoy the continued press, lulz and dismantling of LRH's pyramid of lies, deceit and horror. Good times, indeed.
One of the delicious things about reading Tony O's blog today is the knowledge that the Tiny Tyrant himself is reading the live blogging and, I am sure, responding with orders to Moxon. Trying to micromanage the arguments and changing strategies several times a day is one sure way to FAIL.
What is the saying-- a man who represents himself has a fool for a client? Well-- DM is, in fact, representing himself, he is just using expensive-suited well-manicured living ventriloquist dummies to do it.
Listening to the frankly ludicrous arguments put forward by counsel for the mob, if I were Miscavige, I'd consider suing.
I will be looking a bit closer at the footage from today.... I hope they caught Moxon's ingress and egress.
You know that they are getting a new one ripped during the breaks. Oh, I would HATE to be these jokers tonight! Wonder if any of these attorneys are sorry yet that they took this case? Don't they feel STUPID making these asinine arguments?
So CSI is "an administrative, business entity."
from he horses mouth that the Church Of Scientology is a business.
So why are they tax exempt again?
I think Ortega was hoping for a ruling. Now it will be a whole weekend, and he may have to return to the Bunker and miss the ruling. I believe that is what he is implying.
They are there to zealously represent their clients. I'm sure the $500-1000 an hour they are earning makes up for any embarrassment the arguments cause them.
thEn is for sEquEncing
thAn is for compAring
This is why normal people hate lawyers.
And "n" is for NOT important Johnny dear
That was a load of horse shit. Seems the lawyers do not what they speak of.
From the revised articles of incorporation for CSI in 1982:
So when they argued this...
The footbullet factor went nuclear imo. CSI is incorporated to be the ultimate ecclesiastical authority of all-things Scientology. As such, the ecclesiastical leader is fair game as the one who runs all things ecclesiastical.
And yet it is the essence of our legal system, and our economic system: competition will reveal the truth better than any of the other methods.
In law, zealous representation (competition) means we can determine, within our human limits, who is responsible for the acts under consideration.
In economics, it means we find the best use for the materials available. Both law and business require zealously pursuing their interests in order to reveal the truth. It's a process of discovery in both cases.
Lawyers are hated, economics is called the dismal science. maybe that's the connection. People don't like to see this type of competition, this naked assertion of their point of view. People want it left on the ball field. And yet in both cases, law and economics, it results in the best possible outcomes for all the players. Ie, it gives the best hope to find the truth and reveal it to all.
my head is spinning
glad to see the lawyers spewing/spinning such crap
have a great weekend Yingling and Moxon! BWA HA HA
^ This is why I don't envy those lawyers, however much they're being paid to bluster and obfuscate.
At every turn, they are risking their professional reputation and standing, and when the internet gets to hear and read it instantly, their comeuppance will not be delayed unduly. It isn't just Miscavige they have to fear. (Cheers, Tony O!)
I do not have any regard for Moxon or Yingling, I loathe them. And that goes for any other lawyer who chooses to go up to bat for this insidious cult.
edit: apologies - posted already
already posted in this thread look first before you post
Well, there's that....
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