Tommy Gorman Assaulted at SF Org

Discussion in 'USA - West Coast' started by Anonymous, Dec 17, 2011.

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  1. Smurf Member

    Mark is the brother of the guy that assaulted Tommy.. the perps legal name has been confirmed... Christopher John Krzywicki, DOB: September 29, 1961.
  2. pooks Member

    Ya include in that how not to be a retarded doxer.
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  3. Smurf Member

    Doxing is not a precise art.. even some of the public databases are incorrect. For example, one 'people search' database will list the age of individuals as 101... showing they have no info to the person's age. To the untrained eye, this is misleading. I've had years of skiptracing experience using a variety of databases, some free and some requiring a minimal payment.. I also have a friend who is a working PI who has his own resources for getting dox on people.. they all come on handy.

    Some of those sources require confidentiality.
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  5. Anonymous Member

    Smurf gave his DOB a few posts above.
  6. skeptic2girl Member

    Was thinking -- it does seem likely the cult sent this rage-a-holic out there specially and maybe even riled him up first.

    What was their reasoning, I wonder?

    They've already had intimidation FAIL.

    I'm thinking they were hoping Tommy would fight back and then they could pounce on that one way or another?

    Although Quiros no doubt esp. hates Tommy, I wonder if they would have let this guy loose on any protestors at all.
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  7. xenubarb Member

    I'm thinking you are right, they hoped Tommygorman would fight back, as he is a trained boxer. They could probably use that if he did indulge in a little self defense. Tommy knows their game and by not playing, he wins.
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  8. Anonymous Member

    When they get desperate they do desperate things. Look what happened to Sparrow, they made shit up about him in court and failed, now trying to beat him down with a civil suit. Tommy does come off verbally as someone who (might) loose it. The cult gambled and lost on that one. Now they have to defend it. It will be very telling what support Christopher John Krzywick gets from them. The video is damming by itself but I do suspect if they put him up to it they will defend him and attack Tommy with everything they got. If he did this on his own I am not sure they would back him unless the can see an advantage to it. They need another legal loos like DM needs to be shortened another 2 feet.
  9. Anonymous Member

    I hope the cult has someone attack me one day because I will just lay there bleeding like a bitch and cry. I will then turn the camera over to the press and police.
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  10. Anonymous Member

    It is known by quite a few people in the Org that Chris has a criminal record. Luckily gossip runs rampant inside that place. If it was known by only a couple I could not post this information or my source would be found out. Of course I don’t have his police report or any dox that prove he was convicted of armed robbery, no one at the church does either. The only dox in the Org would be auditing sessions and interviews where he stated his crime, his sentence and his actions in the crime and circumstances. He tried to join staff what, 5 years ago, the jail term was at least 5 to 10 or more years than that so we are talking at least 10 and probably 15 to 20 years ago. It is my understanding he could have had this removed from his record, is that true? Even so, I would think police agencies would have access to it as in the case of the Gorman assault. I know the crime and the prison term were both in California. I gave you the name without “dox” and research by others found me correct. This other information is also correct whether or not dox are obtainable.

    We are dealing with an organization that attacks anyone who in any way exposes its crimes. Even more so its own, they have folders with all their “crimes” to attack members with. This makes it very hard to dox. People who supply dox will get attacked as they are easily traced because few people have access. Think about that when demanding dox regarding this vicious “church”.
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  11. James Spader Member

    Thank you for correctly identifying this 'information' as what it is: gossip.
    We demand dox because the purpose here is not to emulate the tactics of this vicious "church".
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  12. Anonymous Member

    I also think about the completely-unrelated-to-the-situation people who had their information posted in this thread. Please enlighten the user base on the telling the difference between the two. Kthxbai.
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  13. OSA Member

    And please don't forget to post your own dox.
    Every little bit helps.
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  14. Anonymous Member

    Think about that when demanding dox regarding this vicious “church”.
    The information is very appreciated! It's just that the felony thing is a pretty serious accusation, and we want to be able to back it up -- it's not about not believing the poster's assertion or questioning their integrity.
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  15. Random guy Member

    off topic:
    Thank you mods for keeping this on course!
    /off topic
  16. Anonymous Member

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  17. anonamus Member

    If DM gets any shorter, he'll be able to slip underneath the bars in the jail he hopefully ends up in.
  18. skeptic2girl Member

    ^I don't. :(
  19. Smurf Member

    They pull this shit from time to time to try to get a reaction out of the protesters, in hope of nailing them with charges, just like the game they're playing with Sparrow. OSA has unlimited funding at their disposal for litigation stuff, so they feel free to test the waters. That is why I, and others, have cautioned anons not to solo protest.. the risks are great...

    I was protesting with Casper at the HGB two years ago when he was punched on the head by a staffer. While filming, Gigi Scudarelli & guard Andy Knapp walked out of the building side by side, walked towards Casper, punched him, then took off running down the sidewalk. (6:17 in the video). What you don't see in the video is, while Gigi is running down the sidewalk expecting to be chased, Andy Knapp is running in the street parallel to Gigi.

    One only has to look at Andy's facial expression before the assault, and Gigi's reaction on video when he realized that Casper didn't take the bait.

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  20. skeptic2girl Member

    Yeah, to me that's the remarkable thing -- that having video cameras at a protest isn't actually to deter the cult from attacking... it's to prove that they did it.

    (At least in sf, they have plenty of cameras pointing outside the building -- wonder if the video of this attack on Tommy was "lost" or if the camera "happened" to be broken at the time? I'd be interested to know what the cult will tell the police when they ask for the tape. What reason, after all, to tape outside the org except for safety's sake, right? ;))
  21. Anonymous Member

    When I was a ronbot, and would be given an illegal task by GO/OSA, it would always be with the understanding that if I were busted, I'd be on my own - they'd disavow any knowledge of it, expect me to say I did it totally on my own, and maybe even expel me (for PR reasons). Assignments were never given in front of any witnesses.

    They will not defend him in any way that can be traced, if at all.
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  22. Anonymous Member

    Have you gone to the feds with this information?
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  23. Diablo Member

    Yeah, we know!
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  24. Smurf Member

    Exactly. Same here. After the deaths of Cynthia Kisser & Ford Greene were discussed, Eugene Ingram & Rick Moxon was telling me how I'd be safe from law enforcement on a farm Ingram owned outside of Sao Paolo, Brazil, and I was shown how to hold a handgun to successfully commit R2-45 versus suffering a head injury.. the cult's contrived version of 'cloak & dagger'.

    Performing a black op is recognition of your contribution to clearing the planet & KSW. You, and you alone are responsible for it's implementation and accountable for it's consequences, even if the cult gives up your name to law enforcement.
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  25. Smurf Member

    Why? They could care less.
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  26. Pickle a Member

    If I knew how this works I would not have posted anonymously all along. I am the one who posted this guy’s name, yea the gossip.

    You have an organization whose members are experts at intimidation. Are they are able to do what they do because everyone else follows the rules. Are they experts at skirting the law and also breaking it then intimidating witnesses, which seem to be the case.

    Ex members are afraid of outright or subversive attack and/or exposure of things told during “confessionals”.

    How do you fight/expose an organization like that, which has unlimited funds and such a conviction that what they are doing is right they have no scruples about breaking the law, intimidation and god knows what other crimes to forward their cause.

    I do see the problem about dox now that I think about it. With out dox, osa could be posting things to their ends.

    Ok, wow, kinda looks like a lost cause to me.

    Looks like Scientology wins. So much stuff IS known yet they continue.
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  27. Pique Member

    Boy if we had a nickel every time we heard that we wouldn't have to draw paycheques from the Psyches anymore. ;)

    So now that you clearly understand the concern about insufficient documentation about assertions and allegations, what else would you like to share here Mr. Pickles?
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  28. xenubarb Member

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  29. telomere Member

    Welcome to WWP forums!
    Hope you stick around, at least a little. We've much delicious cake to share!

    I think you may have misunderstood some of the natter in here,
    but thanks for posting what you did!

    The cause that is "lost" is Planetary Clearing.
    Glad to hear that you're out (or on your way, soon!)
    Scientology wins when the Tech actually works. ;)
  30. Anonymous Member

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  31. telomere Member

    Though, could you tell us what EP you were hoping to get?
    Critique is good too, if you can help us improve the quality of service, and experience for all.
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  32. amaX Member

    lol ^^^

    They tried crap with me and lost, too. Yay for the good guys!
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  33. Anonymous Member

    If he's facing criminal charges, I believe that the judge can find out about his prior arrests and convictions, even if his record has been expunged, and can use that info in the trial and sentencing.

    Considering how unlikely it is that the DA will want to pursue charges, the lack of dox doesn't really bother me. Thanks, Pickle, for the info.
  34. Pickle a Member

    EP, didn’t think that far ahead.

    I have heard about so many things happening in that place, it is like a soap opera on steroids. The gossip I could tell about, affairs, ………. Well you name it. But I don’t and wouldn’t, who cares.

    But this was different.

    I saw the video, do not think it is ok for someone to attack another, and recognized the guy, that’s all. Didn’t think about dox or any of that, just told what I know.
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  35. Anonymous Member

    Come on! We all love to read about the cult and what goes on behind those doors.

    Let's hear it!!
  36. skeptic2girl Member

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  37. RightOn Member

    do tell
    don't be a tease
  38. Anonymous Member

    There's some stuff already on the internet for those who seek it out.

    It sounds like Pickle took a risk by posting here. I'm laying off...
  39. RightOn Member

    yeah I know
    I do appreciate that they did
    but I just hate to hear "oh what I can tell you" posts
    it makes me dern cranky I tell yah!
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  40. Anonymous Member

    "Can I fool the e-meter?"
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