Tony Ortega on the future of Narconon

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  1. The Wrong Guy Member

    Narconon is dead, long live Narconon! How Scientology solved its drug rehab addiction

    By Tony Ortega, The Underground Bunker, November 10, 2015

    You have to give Scientology leader David Miscavige one thing: Once he makes a decision, it can get carried out very quickly. And after this weekend’s opening of a large new Narconon center in Clearwater, Florida, it’s plain that a major project Miscavige set into motion a couple of years ago is now pretty much complete.

    Narconon, as we know it, is over.

    And in its place is Narconon, version 2.0.


    The Narconon program delivers no drug counseling at all, but is in fact just a repackaging, in nine booklets, of the exact same procedures that a beginning Scientologist goes through in a Scientology church. And while “students” at a Narconon are engaging in staring contests and yelling at ashtrays and baking for dangerously long periods in a sauna like good Scientologists, they are in a facility with zero medical personnel, staffed instead by program graduates. Recent lawsuits claim that the environment is rife with drug use and offers of drugs for sex. In other words, a Narconon is maybe the worst place for a family to send a young addict if they truly want a “secular” rehab center and extensive counseling.

    As Hamilton honed the language in his lawsuits, attorneys in other parts of the country picked up their own cases as it became obvious that there was blood in the water. Narconons everywhere used the same contracts, and made the same promises, and produced plenty of unhappy former customers who could never get their money back. And there was no sign that Scientology was making any moves to change those contracts or reform the existing Narconon network, even as its flagship center in Oklahoma declined until it was running on fumes. And worse: That claim of being secular now came back to haunt Narconon, as it couldn’t run to court and claim special protection under the religious rights guaranteed in the First Amendment, as Scientology does every time it finds itself being sued.

    Narconon appeared to be in serious trouble. Increasingly, we were getting reports that the companies that insured Narconon centers were freaking out, wanting to settle lawsuits that Scientology, characteristically, wanted to fight with its usual scorched-earth tactics. As Hamilton’s lawsuits began overcoming Scientology’s motions to dismiss with almost no defeats, things began to look dire. Narconon’s insurers were going to be cutting some large checks, and with no end in sight. But then, in January last year, Miscavige responded to the crisis by announcing that he was going to be opening up a whole new set of Narconons around the world.

    Say what? Was the Scientology leader simply ignoring the cancer eating away at Narconon by doubling down?

    Well, no. Former Scientology spokesman Mike Rinder was one of the first to recognize what was really going on. Miscavige was actually bailing on Narconon, and was replacing it with something new.

    “I said it a year ago. He’s going to have to abandon Narconon as he knows it. The only thing he didn’t change was the name,” Rinder told us yesterday.

    That’s echoed by a former Narconon official, who asked not to be named. “It’s a totally different era than when it was run by Narconon International and what those centers used to be like,” the former official told us. “Narconon International is now dead. Everything is being run by ABLE, and it’s a Sea Org operation.”

    Let’s unpack that statement. Under the old model, individual Narconon centers, non-profit companies organized locally, were “licensed” under regional umbrella groups which were themselves all licensed by Narconon International, whose president was a longtime Scientologist named Clark Carr. Narconon International, in turn, was licensed by the Association for Better Living and Education (ABLE), a Scientology entity staffed by Sea Org members which also oversees Scientology’s other stealthy front groups that try to introduce L. Ron Hubbard and Scientology to schools, prisons, and at big public events. We’ve written previously that one sign of how ABLE is tightly controlled by Scientology leader David Miscavige is that he had its president, Rena Weinberg, disappeared to “The Hole,” a bizarre Scientology prison.

    And then, at the end of January 2015, a year after Miscavige announced his plans for new Narconons, Carr himself vanished as the Los Angeles offices of Narconon International were suddenly cleaned out. Carr later turned up at a Narconon in Tijuana as his demotion became clear. But what happened to Narconon International itself?


    Our former official tells us that it’s simply been erased, and the new Narconon facilities are reporting directly to ABLE and its Executive Director, a blonde woman who has showed up at the grand openings of all the new facilities in recent months, but who is never named in press releases put out by Scientology. She’s pictured above, and we wager that one of our expert commenters will recognize her and supply us with her name. But we find it bizarre that Scientology, in its stories about the openings, only refers to her by her title.


    ABLE is directly managing Narconon centers now and Narconon International is toast. Along with this new ‘Ideal Narconon’ era has come more control, of course. Facilities are having to start making both staff and students wear cheesy Narconon uniforms, and they have released new program materials, and Gold [the Golden Era Productions studios at the International Base near Hemet, California] has produced new Narconon videos and PSA’s,” the former official says. “This has been met with some backlash from within the network. First of all, more than a year ago, Narconon Gulf Coast in Destin, Florida officially left the Narconon network and became ‘Blu by the Sea.’ They do not use any Scientology or Narconon, and none of their staff are Scientologists either. They are completely out.”

    Narconon Suncoast, the facility that opened in Clearwater this weekend has also been through big changes, he says. It replaces another facility that was in nearby Hernando County and had been the subject of a lawsuit over its expansion. The county was forced to pay $1.97 million in that lawsuit, but the facility then shut down and moved to Clearwater, and changed hands. It’s now run by the team that operates a Narconon in Louisiana, our source says. And despite the windfall of cash from the Hernando County lawsuit, the press release for the new center indicates that it was built with money from Scientology’s own International Association of Scientologists (IAS).

    “They’re no longer hiding the direct connection to Scientology,” the former official says. “During the takeover, most of the Suncoast staff left because they were told they had to be on board with the ‘on Source’ ABLE program or get the fuck out. But that’s not even the biggest news.”

    The real bombshell? Quietly, he says, Narconon’s entire Northern California operation appears to have ditched Scientology’s program.

    “They recently closed one of their three centers, in Placerville, because they were not getting enough business and were starting to lose money. They had also tried to re-brand from ‘Narconon Vista Bay’ to ‘Emerald Pines,’ ‘Pinecone Grove’ and ‘Redwood Cliffs.’ This clearly didn’t work, as they still had the Narconon name. Now word has emerged from multiple sources that they have left the Narconon network altogether to do something different. Their Narconon-branded websites are down in maintenance mode, and their new site is The site specifically mentions ‘SMART Recovery.’ I interviewed the president of SMART Recovery several years ago, and they are nothing like Narconon at all. However, given the number of Scientologists still on staff, I’d be skeptical that they are all they way out. It could be some hybrid like Per Wickstrom’s Michigan operations,” the former official says.

    “Anyway, there are a lot of shake-ups going on, and I’m sure more to come.”


    [Mike] Rinder predicts that Narconon will not only become a boutique operation more about public relations than making money, but that it may soon begin claiming to be a “faith-based” operation to protect itself from new lawsuits. The former official agrees.

    “I think they have to eventually. Now that they’re announcing the connection to the IAS, and you have to call in your stats every week to a Sea Org member, how can you claim that you’re secular?”

    The complete article, with open comments, is here:

    Tony Ortega Mod • 19 minutes ago
    Sure enough, we heard from the experts. She's been known as Shannon Walker and Shannon Wilson. We're sure others will know even more about her.
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  2. RightOn Member

    Looks like everything and anything that is or was Narconon needs to be archived STAT before it goes away all together?
    Can the recent sales of Cruise's properties have anything to do with this? Will they be opening up a couple of cushy centers in Cruise's old digs?
    Wonder who purchased those properties? Or are the still for sale?
    And that other property that the COS bought that was owned by former stars? The town began with an "O"? I think?
    And what about Kirsty's properties that were for sale? Any cow inky dink with what is going on?

    Tin foily yes.... but yah never know with DM's sneaky sneakerton ways.
    At any rate, if they are going to go with a low number of beds and cater only to the richy riches, then at the very least they can't harm as many people as they used to or indoctrinate if they are not going to tow the COS line. Or am I getting this wrong?
    They still need to be exposed. ABLE is still Scientology after all.
    With social media so much in the COS's face, it will be hard for them to hide that these new places are owned by the ABLE.
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  4. TrevAnon Member

  5. Rebuilt face ?


    Over at Tony Macaroni's:

    Not sure needs more Dox
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  6. Aruba has her succes stories on Narconon too. Even mentioning names of sponsors to go to the Rehab Center in Colombia.
    Did you know the Freewinds mores every year for nearly 1 month in Santa Martha and Carthagena (drug trafficking harbors) Colombia?
    Btw. the Aruba Government will be abolish the Visa for Colombia on december the first. And wants to make visa mandatory for Venezuelans.
    Uh Uh Venezuela does not have any thing more to offer except illegal emigrants on the island their oil is all in hands of the Chinese seem that Colombia do has something better to offer now instead. snif snif And so do the freewinds business.

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  7. The Wrong Guy Member

    Another Scientology rehab death — and why this one is particularly bad for David Miscavige

    By Tony Ortega, The Underground Bunker, November 23, 2015

    Just a couple of weeks ago, we were telling you that Scientology leader David Miscavige was responding to the difficulties faced by the church’s drug rehab network, Narconon, by relaunching it. While numerous Narconon facilities have been hit with lawsuits over patient deaths and other claims of harm and dishonest dealing, Miscavige was opening new centers around the world, and was reshuffling management of the network so that it was more tightly controlled by Scientology through one of its subsidiaries, the Association for Better Living and Education (ABLE).

    That plan has already backfired in a tragic way.

    The Underground Bunker has learned that on November 6, a woman who worked for a Scientology drug rehab facility in Texas was found dead in Los Angeles where she had been undergoing special training with ABLE for the Narconon relaunch.

    Tabatha Lynn Fauteux was just 26 years old when she was found unconscious in her shower at the apartment where she was being housed during her several weeks of training.

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  8. AnonLover Member

    I did ^^This, thanks for sharing it over here. Out of respect for the grieving friends and family of Tabatha, I won't be adding the tragic details of her accidental death anytime soon. But I will add it in eventually, once adequate time passes for mourning and we approach a point where remembrance of a life cut short seems fitting.
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  9. Quentinanon Member

    You think it might be the coffee?
  10. Quentinanon Member

    "Then, about a week after that pitch, a Scientology employee approached Tabatha and her boyfriend telling them about an herbal drug he wanted to share with them, Fauteux said. “He said it gave the high of heroin, but it was over-the-counter and undetectable.”
    Fauteux said he learned what Tabatha was given is called “Kratom,” a substance derived from the mitragyna speciosa tree, which is native to parts of Southeast Asia. It is not illegal to possess, and drug users often claim that it is completely safe and doesn’t show up in drug tests. But in a study of deaths associated with Kratom, researchers reporting in the Journal of Analytical Toxicology said that the leaf itself was not what endangered users… Herbal drugs have always been popular because of their natural origin, and they are often thought of as safe alternatives to synthetic drugs. However, in recent years, several preparations sold as herbal drugs have actually been plant material spiked with synthetic active compounds."

    So, scientologists are pushing "legal" spiked herbal drugs to get high.
    Does not surprise me considering Hubbard's experimentation with drugs over many decades of his life ending with Vistaril.
  11. RightOn Member

    "Fauteux said he hadn’t really had time to think about whether his other daughter should return to the Texas program."

    what? scratches head
    This is tragic. Condolences to the family and friends .
    And uh, no, your other daughter should not return to the program.
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  12. Random guy Member

    My guess is he had no idea what this was until he got a ring from Tony Ortega. Give him a day or two to properly grieve and go read the internet, and I think he'll be up to speed.
  13. The Wrong Guy Member

    Scientology wants to force a drug rehab center on Maryland: Here’s the local county’s response

    By Tony Ortega, The Underground Bunker, November 27, 2015

    We have an interesting document for you today. It’s the response from Frederick County, Maryland, to Scientology’s appeal of a zoning decision that is preventing its drug rehab network, Narconon, from building a boutique rehab center with 20 beds in a fishing camp known as Trout Run.

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    Here's the previous thread:

    Narconon loses in Trout Run, Maryland
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  15. The Frederick News-Post now has the story.

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    County files response in Trout Run case

    By Danielle E. Gaines 1 hr ago

    A company affiliated with the Church of Scientology put its plans for a substance abuse treatment center on Catoctin Mountain at risk when it bought property that was not already zoned to allow that use, Frederick County will argue at an upcoming court hearing.

    The county filed a memorandum in Frederick County Circuit Court last week defending the County Council’s June 2 decision not to list the property on the county’s Register of Historic Places, a zoning loophole that would have allowed a Narconon treatment center to operate there.

    The petition for judicial review of the council’s decision was filed July 1 by Social Betterment Properties International, a company acting as a real estate arm of the Church of Scientology.

    The case is scheduled to go before a judge on Jan. 4.

    Because of the land’s “resource conservation” zoning designation, a Narconon treatment center could have opened there if the council had voted to list the property on the county’s Register of Historic Places.

    Placement on the register would have qualified the site known as Trout Run for an exception that allows historic properties to operate as a group home.

    The 40-acre Trout Run camp was developed in the early 20th century in a period when President Herbert Hoover was seeking a fishing retreat, and was recommended for addition to the register by the county’s Historic Preservation Commission. The commission does not have final decision-making authority, and property owners have the burden of convincing the council that properties should be added to the register.

    The county filed its first extended response to the court case last week.

    “By selecting a property with a zoning designation that did not allow the intended use as a permitted use, [Social Betterment] assumed the risk of finding a way to obtain approval to use the property for a drug abuse rehabilitation facility,” Senior Assistant County Attorney Wendy S. Kearney wrote.

    Although Social Betterment Properties has argued that the council’s decision was wrongly influenced by public comments that were “discriminatory and biased against the Church of Scientology,” Kearney argued that the land’s historic roots were in dispute from the outset of the council’s consideration.

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  16. The effects of overdoses of Niacin?
    Reversing social status with drugs?
    The scientists confirmed their findings with pharmacological manipulation: they gave the nucleus accumbens of rats drugs that either block or enhance mitochondria – one of the drugs was a part of the common vitamin B3 (niacin). When rats received blocking agents, their social competitiveness dropped, taking their social status with it.

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  17. Niacin overdose is unlikely if you take niacin only in the amount prescribed by your doctor. While it's not possible to overdose on niacin simply by eating too many niacin-rich foods, taking too much over-the-counter or prescription niacin can be dangerous.
    Niacin overdose signs and symptoms include:
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    Because niacin has also been linked to liver damage and stroke, most doctors now recommend it only for people who can't take statins to treat high triglyceride levels. If you're concerned about taking niacin, talk to your doctor.
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  19. Quentinanon Member

    In the scientology sense, "ideal" is nothing more than a buzzword.
  20. The Wrong Guy Member

    Scientology’s latest filing in the Trout Run zoning fight: We bleed for all religions

    By Tony Ortega, The Underground Bunker, December 13, 2015


    The saga at Trout Run continues as Scientology’s property arm produced another court filing and let loose with a whine of epic proportions.

    We’ve been following developments in Frederick County, Maryland where Scientology tried a stealthy move to put one of its Narconon drug rehab facilities in a rustic location through an end-around of local zoning rules.

    Scientology, through its property-buying front group, Social Betterment Properties International (SBPI), paid $4.85 million for a location known as Trout Run, a decaying fish camp that had stood in for Camp David on The West Wing. Although the parcel was not zoned for a drug rehab center, SBPI learned that if the property could be put on the county’s list of historic places, it could get a special exception as a group home.

    So SBPI set about convincing the county’s Historic Preservation Commission that Trout Run fit several criteria for a historic place. It only then needed rubber-stamping by the county council, which had always agreed with the commission in the past. Through April that appeared to be what would happen, even though the council heard from concerned citizens who didn’t like Scientology’s caper. Then, on June 2, the council stunned everyone by voting 6-1 against putting the parcel on the historic places list, saying that Trout Run really wasn’t all that unique or historic.

    Scientology then filed a petition for judicial review, saying that in fact the council had succumbed to discriminatory talk about Scientology.

    The county answered that Trout Run’s suitability for the historic list was legitimately in doubt, and that the council was not a rubber stamp but could, in fact, make its own decision, regardless of what the Historic Preservation Commission had found. SBPI had simply failed to persuade the council of its case, the county’s attorney told the court.

    In other words, the county says its decision was legally sound, and Scientology can go fish, as it were. And even though the county won’t go there, we can certainly tell you that Scientology’s drug rehab network is mired in controversy after numerous patient deaths and scores of lawsuits over its essentially deceptive nature. Narconon is bad news, and local governments are gradually getting wise to it, refusing zoning requests recently from Australia to Canada. But anyway, that’s not (officially) the issue in Maryland.

    And now, Scientology gets a chance to reply, and it swings for the fences, as it always does. Hey, Scientology, you want some bread with this whine?

    It should be noted that the decision of the Court has important significance not only to the Petitioner [SBPI] but to all religious organizations, particularly in this day and age in which we are all reminded to practice tolerance for different religions and not to stand in judgment of beliefs that may be different from others. If the Council’s decision is left to stand, the Court will be sending a message to the Council that it is acceptable to value and treat a group differently because of what it is alleged to believe or not believe, and adherents of different religions could be in jeopardy of future unequal treatment.

    After nailing themselves to that cross, Scientology’s attorneys then go back to their original argument, that plenty of evidence was submitted to the county council that should have convinced it to name Trout Run historic, and only religious discrimination explains the June 6-1 vote against it.

    Also, as a sideshow, Scientology filed numerous motions asking that submissions by local citizens be struck from the record. This is after the county had notified those people, telling them that it was proper for them to do so, since they had identified themselves as interested parties.

    We sure are curious to see whether the court allows those reports, and whether it will back up the county council’s decision.

    Here’s Scientology’s court filing.

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  21. Random guy Member

    say, doesn't the clams like to pretend that ABLE and Narconon is entirely secular? David Touretzky shold have a field-day with that answer!
  22. The Wrong Guy Member

    Trout Run owners say council decision showed religious bias

    By Danielle E. Gaines, The Frederick News Post, December 18, 2015

    In new court filings, a company affiliated with the Church of Scientology that wants to build a substance abuse treatment center on Catoctin Mountain said the Frederick County Council voted against the site's application for historic designation because of religious animosity.

    Social Betterment Properties International, a company acting as a real estate arm of the Church of Scientology, filed an application with Frederick County to have a property known as Trout Run added to the county’s Register of Historic Places. A zoning loophole would have allowed a Narconon treatment center to operate there if the site was deemed historic.

    When the council voted on June 2 against the designation, it was the first time in the register's 17-year history that a recommendation for approval from the Historic Preservation Commission was denied.

    “The departure from the treatment that all prior applicants under the HPC were afforded, coupled with the clear, religious animus exhibited against Petitioner, shines a light on the 'Not in My Backyard' mentality that improperly guided the Council's decision against Petitioner,” attorneys for Social Betterment wrote in a reply memorandum filed in Frederick County Circuit Court, where the organization is appealing for a judge to overturn the council's vote.

    If the council's decision is not changed, “the Court will be sending a message … that it is acceptable to value and treat a group differently because of what it is alleged to believe or not believe, and adherents of different religions could be in jeopardy of future unequal treatment,” the document states.

    The reply also expands on some of the public comments the county included in court documents to support the council's decision.

    While the county included comments from residents zeroing in on the issue of historical significance, those same people also gave testimony that attacked the church's role and clouded the issue, Social Betterment wrote.

    Its reply also says that the opinion of two experts it hired to appear at the hearings should be given more weight according to the law, and that no one else gave credible testimony disputing the experts' conclusions.

    In documents filed in November, the county highlighted testimony that undermined Trout Run's claims to historical significance and wrote that the land’s historic roots were in dispute from the outset of the council’s consideration.

    County attorneys also wrote that Social Betterment put its own plans at risk when the organization bought property that was not already zoned to allow a Narconon center to open.

    The case is scheduled to go before a judge on Jan. 4.

  23. The Wrong Guy Member

    Historic designation bill headed for council

    By Danielle E. Gaines, The Frederick News Post, December 25, 2015

    As early as the first week of January, the Frederick County Council might consider changes to the process for registering historic properties in the county.

    A six-month moratorium on new applications for properties seeking inclusion on the County Register of Historic Places — which council members pursued after the controversial application by a Church of Scientology-owned camp on Catoctin Mountain — expired earlier this month.

    Councilwoman Jessica Fitzwater said she has drafted a bill that would change portions of the county’s Historic Preservation Law and other parts of the county’s ordinances.

    The aim is to clarify some uses for historic properties and to ensure that uses are compatible with maintaining the historic character of a site, Fitzwater said.

    The bill may be introduced as early as the council’s Jan. 5 meeting. Fitzwater said she wanted to avoid releasing specific details of the proposal until she gets feedback from county staff members.

    “I don’t think they’re going to be huge changes, but I think they’ll help clarify the uses,” Fitzwater said.

    Moratorium declared

    The council voted 5-2 on June 2 to impose the moratorium on applications. The move came less than two hours after the council voted against placing Trout Run, a rustic camp near Thurmont, on the register.

    Residents against Trout Run’s historic designation told the council they were concerned that the owner of Trout Run had applied just to get a special exception from county zoning laws that would allow it to operate Narconon, a substance abuse rehabilitation center, on the site.

    The property is owned by Social Betterment Properties International, a company acting as a real estate arm of the Church of Scientology.

    County law allows the Board of Appeals to grant a special exception in any zoning district if the property is historic and will be converted into a restaurant, inn, antique shop, museum, information center, business or professional office, group home use, or event facility, and if off-street parking requirements are met.

    The Board of Appeals would have allowed Narconon to operate as a “group home” at Trout Run, which is resource conservation land, if it were on the register.

    Councilman Jerry Donald proposed putting a hold on new applications, so the council could examine the county’s historic preservation processes before continuing. There may be “side effects” to the historic preservation ordinance that weren’t expected when it was passed, Donald said then.

    The Frederick County Community Development Division stopped accepting applications for additions to the register on June 9, following an executive order by County Executive Jan Gardner.

    Fitzwater said drafting a bill to address the concerns took slightly longer than expected because the historic designations and possible special exceptions are mentioned in several areas of the county’s code.


    An ongoing court case over the Trout Run property is scheduled to be heard by a Frederick County Circuit Court judge on Jan. 4.
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  24. snippy Member

    Bunker is down today. It was acting weird in the wee hours this morning.
  25. Random guy Member

    It's up now, albeit a tad slow.
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  26. Random guy Member

    My guess is that they'll either specify what a "group home" is a bit more stringently, or put in a clause that an historic site must be kept in it's historic style or perhaps be open to the public to some extent. What good does it do to have special protection for historic landmarks of the public can't enjoy them?
  27. The Wrong Guy Member

    Confirmed: Narconon’s entire Northern California network splits with Scientology

    By Tony Ortega, The Underground Bunker, December 28, 2015

    Last month, we told you that Scientology leader David Miscavige was in the process of detonating and rebirthing his drug rehab network, Narconon. He’s opening new centers around the world, and the existing centers are being given an ultimatum: Get with the new program and be more tightly managed by Scientology itself, or get out.

    One sign of that, we said, was that the Northern California network of Narconon centers had quietly changed the names of its clinics while leaving the Scientology fold. One of our expert sources had noticed that change at the website for the network (which is now calling itself Elevate Addiction Services), and he told us it was strong proof that the Northern California clinics had flown the coop.

    Now, we have more confirmation of that, but also a really interesting view of what was happening behind the scenes.

    Carnegie Mellon University professor Dave Touretzky recently sent us a copy of an email he received from California attorney John P. Hannon II.

    We had previously learned that Hannon was handling several lawsuits against Narconon in California, and we had wanted to talk to him about it, but our efforts to reach him were unsuccessful.

    But Hannon gave Touretzky permission to share the email he sent to the professor explaining what had happened in Northern California: His lawsuits over Narconon’s deceptive practices probably caused the group of clinics to give up on Scientology entirely.

    Here’s what he sent Touretzky:

    Dear Dave:

    We finished up our arbitration with Narconon of Northern California on Thursday. Here are some things that you may find interesting.

    1. Narconon of Northern California renamed the corporation as Halcyon Horizons and then renamed their dba.
    2. Halcyon Horizons has not renewed their license agreements with Narconon or ABLE. (No more 10 percent of the gross or about $1.2 million going to the Church of Scientology)
    3. They have stopped teaching the Narconon/Church of Scientology programs.
    4. No more saunas or toxic vitamin bombs.

    These changes were done about two months prior to the start of the arbitration. Without blowing my horn too much, I have to think that the changes were due to the fact that someone finally spent the time and energy to actually go after the factual misrepresentations in the Narconon advertising.

    It was very clear at the arbitration that the factual representations made by Narconon regarding their success rate and the sauna reducing drug cravings were completely unsupported by any competent factual background. Their own expert and hired shill doctor, Dr. Stephen Stein, (on retainer for $13,500.00 per month) admitted that there is no evidence that sauna treatment reduces drug cravings.

    As regards to the vitamins, the testimony was evasive as to when and how much vitamins are given. However, there was no evidence that the vitamins have any effect on drug cravings. Further, the evidence was clear that vitamins given in the amounts prescribed are toxic both in the short and long term.

    If any other responsible attorneys would like to talk with me about their own brand of Narconon, please feel free to give them my contact information.


    Attorney at Law
    Capitola, CA

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  29. Random guy Member

    Now, that is an interesting development! The relevant question is of course if this is going to hurt the cult, or if Miscavige is just cutting his losses.
  30. DeathHamster Member


    According to their 2013 Form 990, their official website is (since 1999).

    The new page describing the Elevate program on that site is pure Narconon/Scientology:

    The page on the domain that they bought September 4th in the name of their new Fictitious Business Name has all mention of the Scientology stuff scrubbed off, but is it real?

    It's too soon to know for sure, but based on their track record of creating stealth Narconon sites, I think that it's all a game of smoke and ashtrays.
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  31. Random guy Member

    Ortega's comment to his own story:

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  32. Quentinanon Member

    Good observation. The page you cited definitely describes a scientology-style program. I wonder if they still pay a scientology entity royalties or they have rewritten the manuals for copyright purposes and no longer use the trademarks, which are now a negative brand. Have they become a "freezone" NarCONon or are they just a covert scientology front group?
  33. Random guy Member

    More likely the latter. There's nothing to suggest anyone has stopped being scientologists, rather that they have stopped using the sauna-program, the Narconon name and paying the 10% to cult central.
  34. DeathHamster Member

    They don't mention saunas on the new site, but there's nothing saying that they've stopped.

    In the past, Narconon pages have said all kind of shit about the variety of programs that they have, but when people get there it's "here's your niacin, get in the sauna!"

    Scientologists still own the place. They still run it by the Admin vols. The staff were probably trained at Arrowhead. I'll believe that they've tossed the Purification Rundown and shouting at ashtrays when there are reliable reports from people who've gone through it.
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  35. Random guy Member

    According to the lawyer Ortega sites, they have scuttled the Narconon ship in order to avoid putting their patients marks through processes that make them liable for being sued. This probably mean stopping the sauna/niacin program and the boast of 70% success rate.

    Note the word "probably". They probably should be kept an eye on.
  36. DeathHamster Member

    This is what their lawyers have told the lawyers on the other side of the table.

    Apparently someone has also said that they sold their official site, but there's no sign of that yet. (In fact, the new site points to the old site in its Start Of Authority DNS records.)

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