U.S. Department of Defense funds Scientology detox program

Discussion in 'US Army FOIA Scientology' started by KittyKatSpanker, Dec 21, 2014.


    December 14, 2014, the Capital Gazette reports that, according to Pentagon officials, a $633,677 grant was issued to treat veterans suffering from chronic Gulf War-related conditions. The Gulf War Illness Veterans Research Program is based in the Severna Park Health and Wellness Center's Annapolis office.

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    The federal money was awarded to researchers at the University of Albany in New York State with David O. Carpenter, the director of the school's Institute for Health and the Environment, as the chief applicant and investigator. In addition to the federal funding, the program also gets help from the Heroes Health Fund, a non-profit organization chaired by actor and Scientologist John Travolta.
    John Travolta’s Heroes Health Fund “utilizes the sauna detoxification program (Purification Rundown) developed by L. Ron Hubbard which has been shown to improve the quality of life for these public servants.”
    “Carpenter said the program is a "preliminary study" intended to find out if there is a scientific basis for the therapy developed by Scientology founder L. Ron Hubbard for the church's detoxification program. He said the study is the first of its kind to be done by "independent people ... in a fashion that's rigorous and objective."
    However, the science and medical community disagrees with Travolta’s hero, L. Ron Hubbard’s ‘junk science’ approach to treating exposure to toxins and the detoxification program at Scientology’s Narconon drug rehab network. Travolta was dragged into this controversy back in 2012, and “under fire for allegedly causing the deaths of at least four patients.”
    Grieving mother Connie Werninck's daughter was among those who died while under Narconon’s care, and stated: "If I could talk directly to John Travolta, I would tell him the program he is supporting is responsible for killing my daughter!"
    The Gulf War veterans undergoing the L. Ron Hubbard detoxification program was designed by Hubbard to rid the body of environmental toxins through exercise, sauna therapy and high doses of vitamins. The program claims to flush out the accumulations of toxins stored in body fat by flushing out the toxins and excreting them from the skin using high/toxic doses of Niacin and other vitamin regimes. Many of the dosages set by Hubbard far exceed the recommended maximum intakes set by the United States Institute of Medicine's Food and Nutrition Board (FNB) - in some cases as much as 142 times more than the toxic level. The side effects of such huge overdoses range from liver damage, hair loss, brain swelling and nausea up to fatal heart and respiratory failure.
    L. Ron Hubbard's detoxification therapy is based on a ramshackle assortment of unproven and physically impossible theories. Hubbard also made fundamental mistakes about the nature of niacin. The vitamin is supposed to stimulate the release of fat into the bloodstream in order to flush out "stored" drugs. In fact, large doses of niacin actually block the release of fat from fat cells; as an antilipidemic, it is probably the last substance one would use for Hubbard's declared purpose.
    Hubbard also claimed that niacin could protect individuals from radiation, enabling them to "function in areas experiencing heavy atomic fallout in an atomic war". Ionizing radiation causes highly reactive free radicals to form within the body. Their reactivity means that do not accumulate so cannot be flushed out, instead reacting with the molecules around them and so causing cellular damage. (This is the origin of radiation sickness.) An antioxidant substance might in theory help to increase the body's ability to absorb free radicals, but niacin would be no use at all in this role, as it is not an antioxidant.”
    The Hubbard, detoxification treatment has also been used on public safety personnel throughout the United States, including firefighters and police officers who responded to the 2001 World Trade Center attacks.
    Jim Long, a spokesman for the New York City Fire Department, told The Capital some members of the department found the detoxification program useful, but that the department had no official opinion on its effectiveness. Long said there were reports some members of the department had adverse effects when they stopped taking their medication.
    We don't support it," Long said. "We're not going to get into any type of position that we're against it."

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  2. anon8109 Member

    This sounds like an old story. I thought that the US military stopped funding the Scientology corporation's detox scam years ago.
    Have they fallen for the scam yet again?
  3. Don't know, Scientology cancer always grows back when unatended: They flaunt it !

    The Gulf War Illness Veterans Research Program is based in the Severna Park Health and Wellness Center's Annapolis office. (By Matthew Cole, Staff / December 10, 2014) - See more at:,0,219202.story?page=1

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  4. RightOn Member

    already in another thread
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  5. Quentinanon Member

    Heroes Health Fund Advisory Board

    John Travolta
    Kelly Preston


    John Adler
    National President
    Federal Law Enforcement
    Officers Association
    (correctly spelled name is "Jon Adler" and he makes no
    mention of his affiliation to HHF on the FLEOA website)

    Robert Amidon, MA, JD
    Commander (ret.) U.S. Naval Reserve

    Major Sean Donahue
    U.S. Army
    (There is a Captain Sean Donahue who serves in
    the U.S. Army Reserve, but makes no mention of
    his affiliation with HHF on his LinkedIn profile)

    Dan Gentry
    Chief (ret.),
    Ocala Fire Department

    Will Hamer
    Captain (ret.)
    Anne Arundel County Fire Department

    Alan Janusziewicz, MD, MS
    Colonel (ret.), U.S. Army

    Danny Masterson

    Israel Miranda
    Health and Safety Coordinator
    Uniformed EMTs and Paramedics of FDNY, Local 2507

    Ed Mullins
    President, Sergeants Benevolent Association
    (He makes no mention of his HHF affiliation
    in the biography from the Sergeant's
    Benevolent Association of NYPD website)

    Carrie Nero, PhD
    Brigadier General (ret.),
    U.S. Army Reserve

    J. Scott Parker
    U.S. Army (ret.)

    David Root, MD, MPH
    Colonel (ret.), U.S. Air Force

    George Yu, MD
    Aegis Medical and Research Associates
    (He makes no mention of his HHF
    affiliation on the Yu Foundation website)

    Robert Wolfertz
    Lt. Colonel (ret.), U.S. Marines
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  6. 011
  7. DeathHamster Member

    Co-author of Clear Body, Clear Mind and on the board of every other phoney-baloney circle-jerk organization to push the Purif.
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  8. anonsoldier Member

    I'm going to look into this. I'll be damned if I let the DoD spend money on this shit. I may not have much use but I can at least keep my employer away from the cult.
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  9. I doubt it, but thanks for trying.
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  10. anonsoldier Member

    Duh, that's why we're fucking here. To do something. I've already pushed this out to my coworkers through social media. We are a tight knit group and people who take advantage of or hurt veterans are not people that the military takes kindly to. I'm hoping for some information dispersion to take place and am asking friends and coworkers that have any contact with HHF or know of anyone who has had contact with HHF to contact me.

    I'll attempt to consolidate and organize what gets pushed back to me, then report it back here.

    Off the cuff it looks like the article says that HHF was funding the research program, NOT that it was receiving funding. This could be possible and would mean the program is actually being in some way....helpful. However I'm sure that it's probably funneling just as much or more to the cult itself as it is distributing funds to legitimate organizations that use actual science.
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  11. anonsoldier Member

    Okay. I reread the article (need coffee before I try reading crap like this) and the best I can hope to do is try and keep awareness up to keep veterans away. But on the plus side, when this is over the University of Albany will likely release a nice thorough scientific report saying what every other scientist already knew: the purif rundown is crap.

    Here's to hoping they don't kill someone trying to test this pseudoscience bullshit.
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  12. DeathHamster Member

    I'd like to think that, but Dr David Carpenter has been looking at the Purif for more than 7 years, and still hasn't made up his mind about the obvious.
    He doesn't mention the detrimental effects of toxic quantities of Niacin, or the potentially fatal effect of CalMag on people with renal disease.

    I predict a whitewash with superficial bits that Scientology will quote as support, while ignoring that the paper's conclusion will be a vague no answer (except that he needs more funding).
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  13. Quentinanon Member

    "I'm convinced the program has beneficial effects," he says. "The question from my perspective is: Are they mainly psychological, or is it really ridding the body of nasty chemicals?"
    "But before we get too excited, it must be demonstrated that it clearly does work through an objective, totally independent, rigorous analysis."

    Then David Carpenter must exclude himself from the study because he has a stated favourable bias towards the Purif R/D. With his bias, he cannot provide a "objective, totally independent, rigorous analysis."
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  14. anonsoldier Member

    Well. Shit. Fuck this guy.
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  15. DeathHamster Member

    All very fancy, but there's no such company.

    Guidestar doesn't know about it.
    It's not incorporated in California.
    LA County says it's a Fictitious Business Name, but won't say who owns it.

    Nice, considering that they're taking donations.
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  16. SCAM !

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  17. DeathHamster Member

    It's probably one of their other front groups hiding behind the name.

    Aha! Foundation for Advancements in Science and Education (FASE) is at the same address.
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  18. DeathHamster Member

    The bit where his study is partially funded by Scientology could be a problem too.
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  19. I actually promoted a study of scientology practises in a scientific setting in the past. (And will still do)

    Maybe it took.
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  20. DeathHamster Member

    FASE has a long-time history of trying to promote dodgy papers to validate Hubbard's flying saucer science. I wouldn't hold out much hope for this one.

    I predict that this study will go to some pay-for-publish journal that doesn't even skim the papers that they "peer review".
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  21. Anonymous Member

    The site looks like a zombie site:
    Screen Shot 2015-02-17 at 15.35.18.png
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  22. BigBeard Member

    Note that, while the address is shared with these folks:

    EIN: 953711811
    PASADENA CA 91103-2967

    From their 2012 Form 990:

    President/Director: Keith Miller
    Director: Raquel Palmese
    Director: Jack Dirmann
    Director: Steve Heard
    Director: Leonard Klein
    Director: Ray Mellado
    Director: Linda Rosen
    VP/Secretary: Carl Smith
    CFO: Star Olea

    These are the folks actually claiming to have started the "Heroes Health Fund":

    EIN: 943382902
    236 W MOUNTAIN ST STE 105
    PASADENA, CA 91103-2968

    From their 2012 Form 990:

    President/Director: Sandra Lucas
    Treasurer/Director: Ali Datardina
    Trustee: Carl Smith
    Trustee: James Barnes
    Secretary/Director: Marie Sternquist

    Extracted from 'PART III, 4a' and continued in 'Schedule O'
    (Emphasis added. Try not to get sick while reading, and see how many "acceptable truths" and not exactly accurate statements you can find.):

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  23. Quentinanon Member

    I remember Jack Dirmann from the days of the corroding, stinking Apollo.
    Still brainwashed, after all these years.
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  24. DeathHamster Member

    236 W. Mountain St., Suite 105, Pasadena is one crowded address!

    It's probably a dinky little office where the people can't remember which company they're supposed to be working for this week.
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  25. BigBeard Member

    If someone stopped by, I suspect the sign by the door would say "Green Technology". A non-profit (but not tax exempt) outfit where, according to his 'LinkedIn' profile, Keith Miller is a publisher, and also the President of FASE (with no explanation what FASE is).

    Since WWP may be going down for an unknown duration soon, I'll put additional info I come across in the RFTTP 'DOD Detox' thread.
  26. HellRazor Member

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  27. DeathHamster Member

    Searching on that address finds interesting stuff.

    Degrees of participation receiving print recognition are:

    Legacy Contributor
    Mario Supporter
    Friend of Mario
    Mario Benefactor

    How much for a Diamond Meritorius Mario?
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  28. anonsoldier Member

    Is there a Super Mario level?
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  30. Quentinanon Member

    "it is a concern to him that his lifetime of research and achievement could be lost to posterity, unless a video record of his work is undertaken right away."
    If Mario acquired nothing else from scientology, he at least learned narcissism.
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  31. DeathHamster Member

    Hmm. Here's the listing for 105-A, 745 SF:
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  32. Quentinanon Member

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  33. DeathHamster Member

    It's possible that they had 105-B, if it exists, and combined it with A when it went off the market.

    Still, not exactly a huge place for all those companies.
  34. BigBeard Member

    The Loopnet listing is over a year out of date. And for whatever reason, old Loopnet listing are the only place that seems to use "-A/-B" for suites at 236 W. Mountain St. All the newer listings just use the suite number, with no subletter.

    My suspicion is, whatever management company owns the place remodeled and combined 754sqft suites, which aren't all that big, to create space sizes businesses would actually rent.

    Even so, you're probably right that the folks at suite 105 are wearing multiple "hats". I wonder if they have labels on the phones reminding them how to answer each line?

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  35. 1. Almost 30 of us have gone through this detxoxification program with great results. Myself included.
    2. This is medically staffed program that involves more than detoxification systemic repair regime.
    3. Hubbard did NOT invent detoxification idea or concept. HE GOT ideas from other groups, tweaked teh methods. HIS method has helped over 1000 WTC firefighters and rescue workers.
    4. Gerson therapy is a detoxification method and systemic repair group used for helping Gulf war vet WAAAAAY before this group did and it was not government funded.
    5. People need to quit insulting the veterans who chose to try this. Now the program is nearing the end and just a few left to go through it. SO FAR every veteran completed has had at least some improvement.
    6. Veterans need support of the public to insist this should be free to us. NOT discouragement and insults.
    7. The tests the university is doing on us in this study has nothing to do with scientology nor does the detox have anything to do with scientology. A guy who caught on to an already existing idea of detoxification and systemic repair concept just happened to be member of scientology. PLEASE do NOT give that man credit for inventing detox and systemic repair concept. He should get credit for his particular method of detox systemic repair but its been around for many decades.
    8. The tests done on our blood testing for DIoxins presence is same tests done on Vietnam vets in the 80's and found presence of even after years of exposure. So these tests can prove direct war service connection and many vets need that. The government has denied direct link or hindered our ability to prove such direct links for decades.
    9. I'm glad I went and so are almost 30 other veterans now.
    10. This tests need to be done on all veterans and the public should demand dioxin blood test be available to us.
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  36. ravenanon Member

    1) Do you have proof of this or is this like the "proof" scientology/narconon provides.
    2) The naronon in Ga, Ok, etc were also "medically" staffed. They have a body count to go with them too.
    3) No very little of what hubbs did was completely original. Also, very little of what he did was positive accept to his own billfold
    4) What a scientologist thinks of the Gerson Therapy–-except-some-things-are-missing…/
    5) Nothing that I have seen in here insults anyone. It is a quest to make sure proper, medically sound services are offered to our vets. The VA is junk through and through. This has nothing to do with denying proper medical treatment to people
    6) See above
    7) Yes you are in the wrong place arguing the wrong thing
    8-10 see above

    I'm not sure what brought you into this post. If you would like to offer ore details and explain how you think this relates to you or all veterans that would be great.

    I wish you and all Vets the best. I hope you are all offered scientifically proven medical treatment and receive the help you deserve.
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  37. Stacy Murphy is still dead, but Oklahoma gives the Scientology rehab that killed her new life
  38. Quentinanon Member

    Point of information on Gerson Therapy:
    I would like to see the advocates of GT subject it to controlled clinical trials, obtain statistically significant results and submit those results to an established, medical publication with peer review before I would give it credence. Does it really cure migraines, tuberculosis and cancer? Show us with facts.
    BTW, the public should NOT channel money for treatment of war verterans to purveyors of anecdotal medical practices like Gerson therapy and especially NarCONon, which has some significant wrongful death statistics.
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  39. AnonLover Member

    Being that it was a government funded program, proof exists and it can be gotten via a FOIA request. And I'm all over that shit like mud on a hot pig:

    I had anticipated the program was already ended by now since it was funded SIX YEARS AGO and no results were ever published. But it must have taken them a lot longer than expected to reach the 50 30 participants target for completing the program that the grant called for. Or perhaps they can't get 50 vets to finish the program once they get hit with all the horrible side-effects Hubbard's detox process causes and their finally giving up.

    Either way, this fiasco isn't over yet and the dox will surely be lulz-filled.

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