Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Anonymous, May 9, 2011.
so we need to start fundraising for a new server?
There's only one ED. There are plenty of faggots.
That Ryan guy is a faggot. People need a platform they feel is safe. He's shat on that.
He says "hopefully they'll spread out, join other causes". So basically you're butthurt at anon for whatever reasons of your own and you think that we're stronger divided rather than united?
What a moron.
1.) Everybody saw this coming when Ryan tried to put himself at the top of the proverbial non-existent mountain.
2.) AnonOps was being overrun with 12-year-old hacktard wannabes who went there not even knowing what LOIC is.
3.) WWP doesn't really support what AnonOps was doing for the causes.
4.) No passwords were leaked, the thread title is disinfo.
5.) Because of all of the above, nobody here gives a shit about AnonOps.
trufax, but I object to "Ryan"'s methods and his supposed motives.
dotn fuck aorund an start a chan on chan war
lrn from the history and dont walk into rusia in winter again
makes sense to me
Ryan did Anonymous a favor.
Maybe now people will learn to spoof IPs correctly.
If all the doxed were wannabe hax0r script kiddies, nothing of value was lost.
IRC methods are oldfag.
its tech that people keep using because they haven't found anything better.
When it's Fox News it's all funny:
But when it's AnonOps, it's all butthurt and condemnation.
hahaha, good that i never logged into that IRC.
Never said I was fair or impartial.
Fox News = them
Anon in almost any form = us.
Who do you think I'd favour?
AnonNews is down.
AnonNews is down.
My bad it's still up.
Tch, tch, have you been riding bareback‽
Good observation, thanks.
I'd hit it = I'd tap it
I'd hit her = I want to punch the girl
Dollars to donuts you heard footsteps in the bushes and knocks on the door in your sleep last night.
There is a great write up somewhere in the archives here about non-hierarchical social movements and the stand alone complex. I cba'd to find it. Google is your friend.
It should be required reading for anyone involved in any of the broad spectrum of anonymous OPs. What has happened per the OP of this thread should be expected. These types of developments are inevitable.
Fucking disappointing, but still inevitable.
I'd tap hit you,
If only someone could explain how.
This question was pm'd to me, and I offer it here hoping for better answers than I could provide from you roid-rage fueled hacking masters:
I see on the link there that I was one of the dummies who got his IP leaked on that site. I was just lurking there and wasn't saying anything illegal so I was there at least once without using protection. They can't do a whole lot with that info, can they? I don't think so but I'd like to double check with you. Live and learn, I suppose. Thanks.
As far as i know guilt by association isnt a crime yet. Even if your info was leaked, there would still have to be some evidence you did more then log into a chat room.
They can't do a whole lot with the info but the log file that was leaked was the stuff that is supposed to be invisible (like PMs) and did contain some passwords. The main password database may have been compromised as well so the main thing you should do is make sure you don't use your pw from there anywhere else. It is major drama but also still just drama. Don't worry.
U.S. Judge Rules: 'An IP address is not a person'
Published: May 5, 2011, 3:31 PM EST
In what could be a landmark decision, US Judge Harold Baker has ruled that an IP address is not adequate evidence to pin a crime on someone. For years, the recording industry has sued individuals for copyright infringement based solely on their IP address. This reached a new level when lawyers began collaborating with independent filmmakers to attack large quantities of suspected BitTorrent pirates.
The lawyers logged the IPs of anyone sharing a specific item over BitTorrent. They'd get a court to force ISPs to reveal the account holders behind those IP addresses and those individuals would receive a letter requesting threatening legal action. The alleged pirates could pay a settlement fee ranging from a few hundred to a few thousand dollars, or risk being hauled to court for $150,000 plus legal fees.
Naturally, lawyers don't actually want to pursue legal action, they're just hoping to scare people into paying the settlement. This tactic has been against tens of thousands of pirates in the last year or so. In a similar case (VPR Internationale v. Does 1-1017), a Canadian adult film company sought a court's backing to demand customer data from ISPs -- a request declined by Judge Harold Baker.
Baker ruled that IP addresses do not equal persons and cited a recent child pornography case where US authorities raided the wrong people because the true offenders were piggybacking on their wireless connection. "The infringer might be the subscriber, someone in the subscriber's household, a visitor with her laptop, a neighbor, or someone parked on the street at any given moment," he said.
Cases involving pornography are especially delicate because the accused party might feel pressured into quick settlements in fear of the embarrassment that would follow if the case received public exposure. Baker said the court wouldn't support "fishing expeditions" for users' information without evidence that it has jurisdiction over the defendants. Hopefully this decision will prevent future shakedowns.
At least one lawyer believes it will. Robert Cashman, a Texas attorney who represents defendants in similar cases, said "we may have just seen the order that may end all future John Doe lawsuits." "I have no doubt this ruling is the first of many to come, where the judges stop the plaintiff in their tracks by denying them access to the ISPs' subscriber records before a single subpoena is issued," he added.
Their timing was perfect. [/sarcasm]
serious raep and it's not ovah...
"person of interest"
I don't understand why anyone is upset. Ryan was just engaging in peaceful protest- it's like a cyber sit in.
ahh because people who engage in peaceful protest fuck over the other people in their protest with malicious intent.
It's still just a peaceful cyber sit in. What is wrong with that?
two wrongs don't make a right?
This is no history lesson.
yeah you can wait looong for that happening
Lol, LONG is an understatement. XD
Herro is too mcuh fail.
I have now cunluded that herro is ::
He is trying to find his missing chromosome. Bad times.
PS, if you're going for a downsie reference, it would be an extra chromosome, not a missing one.
You learned that at camp, didn't you?
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