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US DoD funding of Scientology Detox Programs and Gulf War Veterans

Discussion in 'US Army FOIA Scientology' started by HellRazor, Aug 7, 2011.

  1. JohnnyRUClear Member

    Detoxification (of some sorts) may be legit, but Hubbard was not. Given what a fraud and plagiarizer he was, why pursue anything of his? If it's legit, you'll find it elsewhere, minus the lolxenu.
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  2. The Internet Member

    No, not really. High doses of vitamins, particularly niacin, are bad for you.
    There is no way you could know all that because nobody measured the levels of those chemicals before and after your alleged "detox."
    Oh please. Doctors have to actually learn things about the body.
    There is no point in studying the Hubbard detox as it makes no fucking sense. Any positive outcomes would have to be false positives. See Bayes' theorem.
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  3. Quentinanon Member

    I see you completed the Effective Public Relations Course. You follow every OSA "attack line" point by point.
    How does it feel to believe you are learning something from a 1952 PR manual? I am talking about the Cutlip and Center book which Hubbard regarded as his PR bible until he took his last breath in Vistaril heaven.
    Ya, "Nick Catlow", it's all a Big Pharma/AMA conspiracy. What did you think of the Hubbard-written Guardian/OSA Network orders describing how "German Intelligence" is behind everything anti-scientology?
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  5. AnonLover Member

    Original scilon link has been broken, but it's available in the wayback machine.

    And I did find an independent non-scilon source to verify Root's testimony happened:

    http://www.gulflink.osd.mil/library/psob.html (Clinton administration. Of course it was)

    http://www.gulflink.osd.mil/oversight_20nov98.html (CTRL+F on Root)
  6. AnonLover Member

    DOD research grants for Gulf War Illness studies was greatly expanded for 2016, and then the award notices were significantly delayed to allow for more applications. They finally announced who received those grants on March 13, 2017 and a second phase for Carpenter's scam was NOT a recipient.

    http://cdmrp.army.mil/gwirp/awards/awards
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  7. DeathHamster Member

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  8. Intelligence Member

    I called this number a few minutes ago hoping to book an interview at their office IF there was indeed
    still a NN Detox/Rehab. A man answered and stated: 'Unfortunately, we used to refer to Narconon centers in Canada, but there are currently no Narconon rehabs in Canada... but I can refer you to a Narconon center in the USA.'

    The ORG down the road from where I live is all but dead. Just a few bots drinking the Kool-Aid as seen through the glass entrance door.

    I'll be in Surrey tomorrow for some business and see if there is still an open office there. (Need some more data about any Narconon scam rehab referral offices in Canada that may be violating government policies, including, but not limited to the Canada Competition Bureau).

    New book is coming along nicely. :)
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    US Army catches Scientology ‘detox’ study FOIA request reveals

    Discussion in 'US Army FOIA Scientology' started by KittyKatSpanker, Sep 11, 2015.

  10. DeathHamster Member

    Scientology created another dummy front group aimed at veterans. Odds are they'll misrepresent their detox program.

    Scientology uses celebrities and police as props - military veterans, it's your turn! January 20, 2019, Tony Ortega, Underground Bunker

    Rod Keller discovers that Scientology is launching yet another front group, and this one is really infuriating…

    Scientology is launching a new front group to join their fight against the treatment of mental health issues — Heroes for Human Rights. The call has gone out for Scientologists who are veterans to join the group, and the project is being run out of the Los Angeles office of Scientology’s Caribbean-based private cruise ship, the Freewinds.

    We have obtained a copy of the call-in patter being used to urge Scientologists to attend a briefing on the group at AOLA, the Advanced Org Los Angeles, part of the “Big Blue” complex of buildings. Unless non-veterans are recruited it will be a very small group. In recent years new Scientology members are usually second generation, and those of military age are more likely to join the Sea Org than the armed forces. The group has established a skeleton website at heroesforhumanrights.org.

    Announcing a new Scientology Group! Heroes for Human Rights.

    THEIR PURPOSE: To unite armed forces veterans to make a positive change in the lives of our Military and Veterans through our 4th Dynamic Salvage Campaigns.

    Their first event/briefing will be at 9 am on Martin Luther King Jr. Day 21 January @ AOLA.
    Reach out to them if you’re interested! Freewinds Office Esteffa Grimm (323) 672-7345
  11. !NECROMANCY! Member

    Sorry for the delay getting back to this. Unfortunately Hubbard’s con persists. At a recent medical meeting the use of saunas and vitamins were discussed as possible treatments and “Hubbard” s innovations in this area was noted. I challenged that. ( ended up asking him if he was a Scientologist well ok I went a little overboard) Then one of the panelists said Hubbard’s method had given some help to first responders. The panel ended and I gave some thought to pursuing the guy but wisely went for coffee instead.
    Hubbard is still out there lurking.

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