Warburton Australia request permit denial to Narconon! Final decision date Dec. 10th 2013.

Discussion in 'Narconon' started by patriot75, Dec 8, 2013.

  1. White Tara Global Moderator

    i had thought there was a Narconon in or near Sydney?
  2. DeathHamster Member

    The Daily Mail story refers to Narconon Melbourne, Narconon Victoria and Narconon Warburton. The last two might be the same since Warburton is in the state of Victoria.
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  3. RightOn Member

    yeahh but quoting Vickie Dunstan ... she says the Yarra Ranges Councilors are supporting the Narconon program in a statement in response to the latest Currect Affair show about Narconon.
    Oh dear Vickie, tell another fib did we?
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  4. anon8109 Member

    Parks Victoria, which owns the lodge and leases it at a peppercorn rent to Narconon in return for basic property maintenance, has come under fire because the Church of Scientology detoxification treatments are contentious in drug rehab circles.

    How does Scientology's Narconon scam manage to get nearly free rent from a government agency? Something can be done about it.
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  5. DeathHamster Member

    Apparently Narconon Melborne is in the middle of a freaking national park!
    I'm sure that there's been a more detailed article about it.

    Scientology loves Narconon locations where the rules and ownership are confused. They played that game on Indian land at Chilocco for years.
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  6. DeathHamster Member

    Ah yes, here's one of the articles that I remembered. I'll have to tag it with more specific location info.
    You'd think there was some law that they were breaking. It is Narconon.
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  7. Rod Keller Member

    Here are the two locations at the same scale. The current site is 1.5 miles from the nearest building. mekbourne.jpg melbourne2.jpg
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  8. DeathHamster Member

    Those are the current and denied locations?

    As usual, the place seems to have several names: Narconon Warburton, Narconon Melbourne and Narconon Victoria, as well as the garbage like "Get Drug Free Naturally" or whatever. I don't know if it's their smokescreen or just different reporters who are new to the story.
  9. Rod Keller Member

    Yes, current is in the woods. Denied site is in the middle of a neighborhood. Here's a closer shot. Yes, that's a school two blocks to the northeast.

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  10. Rod Keller Member

    You don't want somebody running around with an axe anywhere, but near that school would be particularly bad.
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  12. The Wrong Guy Member

    Church of Scientology drug rehab facility opposed | The Sydney Morning Herald

    By Damien Murphy, March 22, 2014

    An offshoot of the Church of Scientology, the Association for Better Living and Education, has applied to Wyong Shire Council to run a drug and alcohol rehabilitation centre in the Yarramalong Valley in the central coast hinterland.

    ABLE runs the controversial substance abuse treatment program Narconon that has been associated with deaths in the US and Europe with some governments forcing the closure of its centres.

    ABLE is planning to open new centres in NSW and Victoria.

    ABLE lodged a development application last year but did not bother to await Wyong's decision, outlaying $3.8 million on February 7 to buy the 30-hectare Yarramalong property owned by Albert Bertini, a financially-troubled millionaire who left Sydney two years ago.

    Bertini and his former wife, Heather, bought the property in 2006 for $205,000.

    Over the years Bertini, whose Trivest Group $400 million property empire collapsed in 2012, changed the flood-prone Yarramalong property into an Italianate playground - often without DA approval - replete with fountains, a twin water slide and tin sheds converted into sleeping quarters, dining room and entertainment area featuring a pole dancing set up.

    Yarramalong has been an upmarket weekender spot for generations of the rich and powerful. John Laws, John Singleton and Neville and Jill Wran have called it a home away from home.

    The Wyong River runs down the valley and residents mainly live on acreages. The town has a general store, a bric-a-brac shop, a mechanics institute and a restaurant. Police, ambulance and other services are 30 minutes away.

    But residents are panicking their peaceful valley will be shattered by the arrival of big city underbelly life that clings to the drug culture.

    On Friday, the Yarramalong Community Action Group started distributing documents containing police reports and documents obtained under freedom of information regarding security problems associated with another Narconon centre outside the town of Warburton near Melbourne. The report and documents were also sent to Wyong Shire councillors and detail alleged violent incidents including a drug-affected resident threatening staff with an axe, police being called in to quell rampaging patients or round up addicts wandering the streets. Ambulances would not enter the Narconon facility without police escort.

    For 13 years ABLE had run the Narconon centre in a rural Victorian government-owned guesthouse but had put in a DA for a new site within the Warburton township. In keeping with the Scientology habit of using high profile celebrities to further their cause, the church hired Scott Miller, Olympic swimmer, ex-husband of Charlotte Dawson and methamphetamine user, to spruik the Warburton facility.

    On March 11, amid massive local opposition fanned by the police reports, Yarra Ranges Shire councillors voted unanimously 8-0 to reject ABLE's planning application.

    Continued here:
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  15. DeathHamster Member

    No doubt they're reacting to Ontario, where they were cut out of the real estate deal by a white knight buyer.
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  16. fishypants Moderator

    Those are computer-generated images of how it's (supposedly) going to look? If so then why is the gym floor covered in trash? I'm confused.
  17. DeathHamster Member

    Or glitzy images from the people who were selling the property.
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  19. Rod Keller Member

    Here are the main application files. There are dozens of objections that I didn't download, they seem to all be neighbors. I think I have to post them one at a time. Sorry.

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    2, 4 and 7 tell me they are too large to be uploaded. Hmmm. The largest is 11 MB.
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  25. Rod Keller Member

    The other documents are all about flooding, brush fires, outdoor lighting, how many people they could have at a lawn party, etc. etc. I didn't see anything about it being a cult.
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  26. jensting Member

    Financed by the IAS? In other countries it's the other way 'round, with narCOnon Southern Europe(1) and narCONon Louisiana being serious donors to whatever it is that the IAS needs money for. (Oh, wait, it's for being a hate organisation(2). Got it...)


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  27. The Wrong Guy Member

    Scientology rehab centre at Yarramalong on the Central Coast gets a rural cold shoulder | The Australian

    A contentious new drug and alcohol rehab centre on the Central Coast linked to the Church of Scientology has received 80 written objections from a local community with just 129 families.

    Scientology offshoot Association for Better Living and Education Inc (ABLE) has lodged a development application to turn a run-down private resort into a live-in rehab centre with 35 patients staying up to six months at a time.

    But residents of Yarramalong are fuming over the application and fear their “peaceful and serene hamlet” will be shattered by the establishment of a “hospital-style clinic” housing recovering drunks and drug addicts. ABLE runs about 120 controversial Narconon substance abuse treatment centres across 30 countries.

    Its drug-free treatment program is based on the teachings of Scientology founder and science fiction writer L. Ron Hubbard and has been investigated in the US and Europe following multiple deaths.

    Yarramalong Community Action Group spokesman Bill Love said the commercial venture — “what the Church of Scientology term an education facility” — breached local zoning regulations.

    “The application has created furore among residents and ratepayers concerned about the environment of their valley and the security risks,’’ he said.
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  28. They sure know how to pick em. I can see why the above property would appeal to scis, it takes a special kind of twat to spend a ton of money to get that kind of Robin Leach ZOMG tacky.
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  29. DeathHamster Member

    I knew I had an article on the current Parks Victoria location, and the complaints:
    There are a few people in that article that might be good for Australian Narconon protestors to hook up with, not to mention the reporter.

    A follow-up story in 2010, which I think has been posted here already:
    Four more years further down the line, and they're still there. (Hopefully this new location attempt was because they knew the axe would eventually fall? [Axe, lol. I wasn't thinking of Epic Axe Guy when I wrote that.])
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  30. DeathHamster Member

    Narconon Yarramalong, News South Wales .. Denied!

    Since they'll be stuck with the property otherwise, I think an appeal is a certainty. In fact, if it wasn't already part of their planning tree, they'd be total idiots. I wonder if they've already been working some kind of fix against the Land and Environment Court? (With any sane operation, they'd have a fix ready before they bought the property, but Narconon isn't, so who knows.)

    Hockley Valley in Canada, Warburton, and now Wyong in Australia. Not a good world batting average for Narconon lately.

    Land and Environment Court of New South Wales
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  31. RightOn Member

    if that is the way it was supposed to look, then what a waste to use it on the Purif!
    An Anon Retreat gets my vote :D
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  33. The Wrong Guy Member

    And another one:

    Scientologists' DA for Yarramalong Valley drug rehab centre rejected

    Sydney Morning Herald, May 11, 2014

    The article concludes:

    The chairman of the Yarramalong Community Action Group, Ron Lee, said locals were pleased with the outcome but it did not necessarily mean the matter was closed.

    In its determination, the council appeared to leave a door open, noting that ABLE had submitted insufficient information with the application, "making it difficult to fully assess the social impact, the likely effect on the drinking water catchment, or satisfy how water and sewerage would be treated".

    "We should not be complacent that this is the end of the matter," Mr Lee said.

    "Incredibly the Church of Scientology purchased the property before the council was able to make a ruling on their development application and they are therefore not going to go away. It is very difficult to imagine what sort of alternative use the Scientology organisation might be able to make of the property and remain within the very tight planning guidelines."

    ABLE spokesman Ralph Harris had not replied to requests for an interview by the time of posting.

    It was the second time in two months that ABLE proposals for a rehab centre have been rejected.

    In Victoria on March 11, amid massive local opposition fanned by the police reports, Yarra Ranges Shire councillors voted unanimously 8-0 to reject ABLE's planning application to open a rehabilitation centre in the township of Warburton.
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  34. DeathHamster Member

    Nerida James' Natural Healing Centre newsletter for Winter 2013 for entertainment value.
    Significantly, there's mention of a Birthday Game for Narconons. How to avoid the flu tips that avoid mentioning flu shots. (The odds that she's not anti-vax are slim.)

    A copy of the Warburton FOI police logs precis. (Backup and I can category-link it.)

    File:FOI PDF - Narconon Police Events - Precis.pdf
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  35. fishypants Moderator

    11 Feb 2013 looks like a suicide attempt.

    30 Aug 2013 marked as a suicide risk. Also "accused was asked by his course counsellor (victim) to undertake a task which he refused. The accused then became upset and walked outside with a glass ashtray where he smashed the window of the victims Toyota 4x4." - perhaps the patient is responding to TR-8 ashtray tech?
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  36. DeathHamster Member

    Miscavige seems to think that the Yarramalong location, near Syndey is going to open as an Ideal Narconon. Does he know something, is he merely lying, or does he need smacked in the head a few times before "refused" and "rejected" sinks in?

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  37. patriot75 Member

    from yesterday:
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  38. DeathHamster Member

    ^^ Warburton location, near Melbourne. Have they appealed the decision at the Yarramalong location, near Syndey?
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  39. Intelligence Member

    Indeed, it would be a sad day if soiciopath, David Miscavige pushes
    enough $$$ to make this happen.

    IMO, unless a few well placed people have received brown envelopes
    of cash or the Cult has big time DA dirt on a few, the citizens who oppose
    Narconon will win .... one way or another.The Cult of Narconon is an
    'Industry of Death and Abuse' .... Good will WIN over Evil ...
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