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Was asked to tell you what got my attn while I was in..

Discussion in 'GoldBase' started by formerlyIN, Jul 6, 2008.

  1. Re: Was asked to tell you what got my attn while I was in..

    FIN we are all rooting for you. With all our hearts! We can't wait to hear of your victory.
    *hugs* *flowers* *cheers*
  2. formerlyIN Member

    Re: Was asked to tell you what got my attn while I was in..

    I was debating whether or not to post this, but I figured I've been maybe too honest not to...

    Since this weekend I have been fighting a "deamon" and I can't decide if it's the bullshit brainwashing, the realization that I was dupped for so long or just all the sh!t going on...

    I went to a protest (second one) and felt great when I left! Things were great! I went home to rest, I tend to get a little more tired than your average bear...

    I have avoided crowded places, and really people in general so long, that going out for even a few hours in a large crowd is a big thing for me. My one friend where I am was dragging me out, in a large venue and I was both excited and apprehensive. When we got there I felt like a duck out of water. I don't drink, never really did, I have this "rather be alone" thing going on...and then there were ALOT of people! Imagine a picture of way too many people in one place, and many were drinking...I'm just trying to adjust to the massive amount of people.

    Something was said over and over that was so far over the line that it wasn't even in the same playing field. I let it go, over and over. That's what you do when you're a scientologist. You don't want to show your emotions, act out or speak your mind. Finally I had had it and let this girl have it both barrels, just words but that made me feel like I committed a crime! She was wrong, and I was the one feeling guilty?! Why?

    I spent several days wondering if I felt better or worse...I couldn't even annalize my feelings. I came to the conclusion that I felt better. Damn, if I had known just yelling would release so much pent up anger I would have done it a long time ago!

    I still don't know what the snapping point was, or the trigger so to speak, but yesterday, I felt like even with all this crap on my plate, I know I'll be ok!

    PI case is nearly coming to a close,, then there will be a trip in regards to the other, so I think it will be nutty for a few months, but damn I feel so much better knowing I can let out my anger/fears/hurts without it being a bad thing!

    Think they call that baby steps.

    I also took a long look at my children last night, while they slept. I saw my beautiful daughter with whom this cult told me was a PTS due to her mild C.P. and her surgeries. I saw my son who is so young an innocent. I have to fight this battle for them, and every other child that has been touched in a bad way by this cult! They looked like angels when they slept! Yes, I said angels! I thought I could have never been SO as leaving these babies (well, there not babies anymore, but to me they are) would never be an option! I won't even leave them for the trial or the thing I have to do after...believe me, I'm catching hell from the authorities about bringing them, the schools for needing to take them out twice in the first half of the school year...
  3. EastAnon Member

    Re: Was asked to tell you what got my attn while I was in..

    You can shout at me. Anytime.

    In a way it is very weird, to have such a peek in your life, on something so important to you. I wouldn't dare comparing it to the birth of a child, but somehow there's a resemblance.

    You're fighting to break free from what has held you back, and all of us are there to watch. I must say, it's a privilege to be able to watch your journey.

    You're stronger then you imagined. Maybe even stronger then we imagined. Thank you !
  4. Ackerland Member

    Re: Was asked to tell you what got my attn while I was in..

    Holy shit! You were really at a protest?

    I hope you really feel better after this protest.
    By the way, what did you tell that Scieno girl? Did you tell her about what Scientology did to you?
  5. formerlyIN Member

    Re: Was asked to tell you what got my attn while I was in..

    Ackerland:

    Second protest...and it felt damn good!
  6. Ackerland Member

    Re: Was asked to tell you what got my attn while I was in..

    Anyways, you have my admiration from germany :)
    You must be a strong woman indeed!

    I was asking for support from ex-scilons here in Stuttgart, but they all have been shuddered into silence and want to get as far away from the cult as possible.

    On the other hand, something else really really exciting happened: I have heard from someone that his niece who was in the sea org blew a few weeks ago from Clearwater and now lives someplace else! Her family still seems to be in - but still... this really seems to be the beginning of a landslide. Exciting times are ahead!
  7. formerlyIN Member

    Re: Was asked to tell you what got my attn while I was in..

    I think it won't be an over night thing but the more ex's that come forward, and tell their stories, the downfall is bound to happen. Lil Davy boy made huge mistakes....

    Anger is a motivator. I struggle if wether is is good or bad, but it gets me going. I lost many years and my kids paid the price by not having mom around to do the things I should have, now it's time to right a wrong, the best I can.

    I refuse to sit by and wait for Anonymous or anyone else to do the dirty work. If I'm not willing to step forward and do my part, than why should I expect anyone else to.
  8. Amnon Nhymous Member

    Re: Was asked to tell you what got my attn while I was in..

    THIS! Thank you.
  9. Re: Was asked to tell you what got my attn while I was in..

    FIN, you are my hero!

    And do not ever feel guilty for standing up for yourself. *hugs* And do not feel guilty for doing what you know is right for your kids, they are the most important of all in this life.

    I hate crowds and get tired easy, too. Taking care of yourself is important too. If you don't you can't do anything else decently.

    Okay lecture over. :D I'm sure you are more than just my hero!
  10. parrotnut Member

    Re: Was asked to tell you what got my attn while I was in..

    Yee-Haw! Good for you and keep on plugging!
  11. formerlyIN Member

    Re: Was asked to tell you what got my attn while I was in..

    I thought I had a personal win....but....only lasted a week....

    I got a call from my child support worker last week telling me she FINALLY got a payment of $100.00 from my ex's wage withholdings! YEAH! Now usually he stays at a job for a few months when I catch up with him. That's 100.00 every two weeks, totalling 200.00 a month. Most would say, that's a BS amount, I agree. I never went in for an ammendment, since I wasn't even collecting the amount ordered! Why throw good money after bad...right?

    Well, I found his employeer. I called everyone and there brothers to find the employeer and they sent the wage withholding forms. Same thing different time.

    I got a call this AM from the child support worker telling me he quit his job!

    When he got his check, with the whole 100.00 taken out, he called her screaming that she "had no right to take the money out". He said alot, even racial slurs (I felt so bad she had to listen to his ranting and raving), he also told her not to call again or he would get a restraining order against her....what an ass! That's their job. Good luck with that one!

    Some would say, why worry about $200 a month, it's peanuts, but not to me. What kind of person keeps quiting jobs to avoid such a small amount of child support!

    That's my rant....
  12. misskittie Member

    Re: Was asked to tell you what got my attn while I was in..

    What an absolute twat. But m'love, you have this statement to fall back on "Formerlyin - takes no shit from nooone!" You'll find him again and screw the money you are owed out of him again and you will keep doing it until he gives up and pays up. You'll keep going because you have to, your kids need you to and you are driven like no other woman I know BUT...

    ...when all this shit is starting to end, book yourself and those angels on a long holiday somewhere hot, quiet yet fun and get your lives back. You don't need or want my pity but I do feel so sorry for you and the situation you are in.

    I don't believe in God so not sure how to pray for you. Instead I am sending all the good vibes and happiness I can muster and I hope it all works out for you in the end.

    Much love

    Ms K xx
  13. Plups Member

    Re: Was asked to tell you what got my attn while I was in..

    Sounds like a lot of Australia. :)
  14. A_nonchalant Member

    Re: Was asked to tell you what got my attn while I was in..

    Your ex sounds like a rat-bastard. :(

    I am glad you went to a protest and that it made you feel better! :flowers:
  15. formerlyIN Member

    Re: Was asked to tell you what got my attn while I was in..

    My ex LEFT his kids and said he was going on a dentist appt! His youngest was only months old! He's a total ass! When his daughter tried to rectify with him before she got deployed the first time, just barely 18 as she enlisted underage, he told her " I hope you die over there!" I wish him nothing but agony! If it is possible to hate anyone more than the CoS, it's him!

    He has a Harley Davidson, a nice house, and a classic t Bird but 200 a month for his kids is too much. He hasn't seen any of them in 13 years!
  16. Re: Was asked to tell you what got my attn while I was in..

    I think you'll find the protests very empowering, FI.

    And deadbeat dad is a fuckin deadbeat
  17. Sanjuricus Member

    Re: Was asked to tell you what got my attn while I was in..

    I'm sure the hive mind could come up with something on him if you were to accidentally post his name or something anonymously..... It's what Anonymous is good at!!!
  18. formerlyIN Member

    Re: Was asked to tell you what got my attn while I was in..

    It was liberating to go to two protests here. For Sept, I will be in Fl for the trial, and I know I will have pent up anger that could use great direction. I thought of making the drive to Clearwater, it's not that far from where I'll be, but wasn't sure how the Anons there would feel about it.

    The Anons here have been great! A bunch of wonderful people!
  19. Re: Was asked to tell you what got my attn while I was in..

    I only speak for myself.

    But as far as I've seen, anyone interested in peacefully protesting the cult is warmly welcomed by Clearwater Anons, who are a very diverse group.
  20. formerlyIN Member

    Re: Was asked to tell you what got my attn while I was in..

    I'm not into violence. That's not my thing. As for diverse, I judge noone. I'm in no position to place judgement, nor do I want to. That's the non exhistant face of Anonymous isn't it? Diversity united for a single cause? To bring down the CoS?
  21. Re: Was asked to tell you what got my attn while I was in..

    Indeed
  22. formerlyIN Member

    Re: Was asked to tell you what got my attn while I was in..

    Pulps:

    Don't tease! Went to Aus as a child, hardly remember the trip, but the smell of the beach, the warmth is unforgetable. Someday, I'd like to take my kids there. I'd also like to take them to where my grandmother immigrated from in Europe. Maybe after the trial...

    We have lived all over, so they have been exposed to many cultures, and I think that's the best life experience you can get.
  23. Plups Member

    Re: Was asked to tell you what got my attn while I was in..

    Not teasing, my dear. After the trial, you'll be in a position to travel and I'm sure I could find somewhere for you and the kids to stay... :)
  24. formerlyIN Member

    Re: Was asked to tell you what got my attn while I was in..

    I just wanted to give an update on what's going on...things have been a cluster f)ck (excuse my language) for the last few days, fighting with the attys. First, I have to go to LA for the authorities in Oct. for more derpositions and I was counting on my PI case being done and over with by then. The Judge in that case MADE orders and with the gosh darm storm, things have changed!

    My attys tried to bifurcate the case. It was explained to me, breaking up the PI case into 2 sections, one for liability, and if we win (we will) then a shorter one for the damages. This way the other side can't make it a 7 callander day thing! Yes, they now made it a 7 day trial! The Judge also said they are entitled to new exams due to the fact it's been a few months. BS! He said no more than 10 days prior to the trial but the other atty went in and said his specxialist can ONLY see me 13 days prior!

    I want to just give up! As it stands I need to be there from 9/8 for appts, trial commencing on 9/22 ending approx 9/29! That means gas/food/lodging for 3 weeks! Not possible. I think somehow this is my punishment for being duped for so long in Scn!

    I got a call yesterday and my atty emailed me HIPPA forms so the other side could get medical records from when I was 13! I'm almost 40! I said no! He said he would handle it...OK he better. Now that seems to be a moot point.

    I tried to make ammends for everything by coming forward and talking to the authorities. Maybe it's too little too late...who knows, but I wish I could catch a break!

    That's my boo hooing for the day. Today I need to make a decision wether or not to cancel the trial indefinately...

    I'm still fighting with the schools over the kids...wishing I had chosen to home school this year. I just wanted them to have a normal social life!

    No matter what, I will follow through with the Scn oct things. They will at least get me there, and I won't have to worry wether or not my car will make it. They will also pay for the hotel, good too.....and it's necessary!

    EDIT:

    As for the new exams, I saw a specialist in this area yesterday, hoping he could operate on me and he is one of the best in the Country. He said he wouldn't get involved in my case and doubted anyone else would but gave me the names of 3 more doctors. They need new exams???!!!! I have been told now by 8 doctors that specialize in this area that there is nothing they can do for me!
  25. Massive Arity Member

    Re: Was asked to tell you what got my attn while I was in..

    Stick this out!

    I'm not giving you legal advice about what to do with your trial, but muster your strength.

    This is not punishment for being duped, this is your opportunity to fight the demon that has been lurking and win.

    Ultimately, you will be ok. Your kids will be ok. Things might get reaaally rough, but there's no way with so many people watching and supporting you that things could ever fall apart. The thing that no one can help you with is the stress you must be experiencing, but remember that it's only pressure and stress. In the real world, we humans have to deal with pressure and stress without rely on tin cans and alien ghosts. Stress is both good and bad; it, afterall, forces us to focus on the important, impending situations around us. On the other hand, like most things in the mind, it was designed biologically such that it works best in moderation and in excess is painful and potentially dangerous.

    Just take a deep breath. Sit down and cool off a bit. It's just stress. The situations that you are stressing about? You'll work them out. They'll come to pass. You're not a bad person, and your situation isn't the worst situation anyone in the world has ever been through and lived through. You'll make it to the other side because you've already proved you are strong.

    And use the internet! There are tons of resources of information, starting from google onward, about anything you might need help on. You just need to start with the right question to ask.
  26. formerlyIN Member

    Re: Was asked to tell you what got my attn while I was in..

    There's no way to stick this one out this time. When they knew I could hang in for one week in FL, then they made it to where it was 3 weeks. I was winging it on a prayer with a 9 year old car, and a roach motel, but 3 weeks is totally impossible. Lawyers are just plain legal criminals.

    The owners KNEW the apt was a fire hazzard! They wrote the memo on it, what do they do? They go on vacation! I try to put it out, and I get burned in the process. There are many families that could have lost their lives. I ask myself all the time, would I have done it differently if I knew the outcome, and I don't think I would have. People could have died! They are going to get by with their actions and keep being the way they are....

    I know lifes not fair and you have to fight all the way, but damn would I like to catch a break.
  27. Ackerland Member

    Re: Was asked to tell you what got my attn while I was in..

    formerlyIN: Is there any way to donate to you, without Paypal? (I dislike paypal).

    It's not only to help you out personally, I want to make sure this fight against Scientology can stay on track. I'll support in any way we can make this criminal cult bleed, and reading your story I only get angrier at them by the minute.

    If everything goes well, I will attend the sect conference and give it directly to Mr. Berry. (which is in 9 days)
  28. formerlyIN Member

    Re: Was asked to tell you what got my attn while I was in..

    No matter what happens in the PI case, lose it or not, it will not impact my working with the authorities to the fullest!

    They are two seperate matters. Unlike the insurance attys, I know what is right and what I should and must do.
  29. formerlyIN Member

    Re: Was asked to tell you what got my attn while I was in..

    I have so much going on on both the PI case and in Scn... I can't go into too much about what happened with the local org, but that it places one more thing on my plate. I went into it a bit with the local anons yesterday, but I was so overwhelmed, I didn't call the agents involved or anyone. Just too much srtess for one day. Then when I did call today, they want to approach this in a manner that I'm not even sure of yet....more added stress!

    I also called my atty's office, planning to tell him to drop the suit (can't get there for 3 weeks, just not possible). This is not something I want to tell his paralegal, and he is in trial until Friday afternoon, so I will place that call then. It was a hard decision. I'm totally screwed up for life, and my kids are getting cheated out of a parent, but it's impossible. I get one thing worked out ( kiddies out of school without failing) then they throw the "you'll have to be here for 3 weeks thing". Please don't blast me for this decision, I'm doing it to myself already. I know these jerks are getting off scott free! I hate it, and they will continue to do what they do without consenquences.

    Somehow I think this could be in some way a punishment for my time spent away from the kids studing scn....
  30. Anon23517 Member

    Re: Was asked to tell you what got my attn while I was in..



    Okay, first off, you need to do what you can cope with. It's no good if you overload yourself with things and stress, because that will make you feel worse. I don't think anyone will blast you for the decision, really. It's your life, your family's life you have to cope with and having too many things on your plate can make it nearly impossible and that's not fair on you or your family. Doing what's right for you is what's important.

    Also, I don't think it's a punishment. It is what it is, nothing more, nothing less. It's a shitty situation and sucks big time, but it's not anyone's fault. These things happen. Sometimes, life gets overwhelming and something has to give. It takes courage and wisdom to know which battles to let go and which ones to continue to fight.

    Rest up and enjoy time with your kids and try not to stress too much.
  31. Lurker Member

    Re: Was asked to tell you what got my attn while I was in..

    FI

    I normally just lurk, but I needed to tell you something.

    Your children are growing up to be strong, loyal, honorable adults.

    How do I know this? Because you have a child in the Military.

    There is no expressing the pride of a mother with the child in the Military. Be proud of her, be proud of yourself. You have done well.

    Don't worry about yesterday, you can't change it. You can only step out with honor, honesty, and bravery into today. Tommorrow, well that is only a dream, or a worry.

    Can you handle today? Can you breathe through the next few minutes. Then catch a breath, and gather yourself.

    I do believe in God. I find it amazing that there are those in this world who do not. Then I realize, they have never found themselves in a foxhole.

    Your in a foxhole. Your not alone, you have your friends and your children. They are God's gift to you. Allow your friends to bring comfort. Allow your children to bring bravery.

    Don't worry, God does not forget the widowed and orphaned. The Bible says, "He is father to the fatherless, and husband to the widowed." Let go, and let God.

    You should go for more child support. California allows you to place a lien sale on the Harley, a lien sale on the car, and a lien on the house. He will lose any drivers or professional license he currently holds, until you are paid at least 10% of the money owed.

    The easiest way to get your child support raised is to apply for welfare. The county you apply in will go after your ex for the child support and raise it if necessary. The County will pay all the attorney fees, they will pay the court fees. This, help from the County, is free legal help to you take advantage of it. Do this BEFORE you get any settlement moneys.

    I'm not an attorney, I'm just a mom. My final advice is to use the system in place to get things done. Your children need a roof over there heads, food in their tummy, and clothes on their back. You must provide it. Go and get the help for the children.

    I'll return to Lurk Mode. <Lurk>
  32. EastAnon Member

    Re: Was asked to tell you what got my attn while I was in..

    FI, please, tell us how we can help.
  33. formerlyIN Member

    Re: Was asked to tell you what got my attn while I was in..

    Lurker:

    Thank you for your kind words. I'm no longer in CA but, he has lost his license for LIFE! Seriously. I did apply for a hearing for 1. adding on our last child to the current order (she's a teen but I never added her on. The thought process was I wasn't getting what was already ordered, so why pay to get her on the order that won't get paid)2. I made great money for a long time and didn't really care if he paid the little BS amount he was ordered. I did stay on top of it, calling the worker to get on him, but really was doing it myself. I have a hearing mid Sept, which I was susposed to be in FL (not there either) and the child support worker supervisor talked to the prosecutor and they agreed to do it via telephone. He made the child support worker see his true colors when he blasted her for calling.

    FL is one of those states that harbors dead beat Dads. It makes it to where the do an interstate case (all states have this). It a pain in the ass to get it, but I will! In FL you cannot take their home/ first car and the bike is titled in his wife's name.... Remember OJ ran there for that very reason.

    EastAnon:

    I cannot/willnot ask people to put themselves in a tough spot for my problems. I appreciate the offer, but my conscience will not allow that to happen. Yes, an ex scientologist has a conscience.

    I've come to believe in Karma of late. I perverse sence of karma...Growing up Catholic and then scientology, I'm a bit messed up in that area, but I think, maybe this is all happening so I can fight the real battle. A penence of sorts.
  34. EastAnon Member

    Re: Was asked to tell you what got my attn while I was in..

    In a tough spot? For what? Supporting you?

    Please, speak up. Do you need funds? How, what, where ? Do you need a babysit? When?

    If you don't tell, nothing happens. Do it.
  35. Re: Was asked to tell you what got my attn while I was in..

    Perhaps ANON in fla who might be connected in the vacation rental department could pass the word and confab with FIN and see if there is an empty rental that could be used for housing during the time FIN has to be there for the trial? 17 days min???
  36. formerlyIN Member

    Re: Was asked to tell you what got my attn while I was in..

    I would never leave the kids. My daughter who turns a teen in a few days has mild CP. I when to hell and back to get them out of school for that long. Some people don't understand that I won't leave them that long, but remember this precious little girl is the same on that was ALWAYS the PTS because of the meds for her surgeries! This is the same kid they wanted me to put up for adoption.

    I even went as far as to get the "kid"(college kid, that's young to me) down the hall acclimated with my hateful parrot. Sounds silly, but if you know parrots they are more fickle than people. They hate strangers and have their own ways about them.

    It's just them making me go so early before the trial, stay there for nearly 3 weeks, and the gosh darn insurance atty now wants to call every freaking a/c company for their "expert opinion" in the city, lenghting the trial by 2 days. That means an extra weekend! Making the stay 10 days before the trial and 7 business days for the trial!

    The judge has bent over backwards to satisfy the other side, to appear fair, although they didn't play fair the first time.

    Everyone has bent over backwards. My DR. gets some of my expensive meds on a thing called PPA ( drug companies offer them if you can't afford) it saves me about 3,000 a month and she got approval to get them early. She called the pharmacy for the outside meds and said give them to her early....

    It's the amount of time and the cost of that time to be 1300 miles away.

    I have so much anger over the insurance company and their attorneys, I really don';t think it's healthy at this point. On one hand it has given me the outlet to fight the CoS because I'm sick and tired of being bullied! I have too many people that will have my bad in the fight against the Cos and maybe that's where I need to consentrate my energy and anger.
  37. Plups Member

    Re: Was asked to tell you what got my attn while I was in..

    What are the precise dates for the accommodation?
  38. formerlyIN Member

    Re: Was asked to tell you what got my attn while I was in..

    It would be the 13 to the 29 (30th is a holiday) so maybe the 1st, not knowing how many witnesss they intend to call

    Have to stop once on the way down, it's an 18-20 hour drive
  39. anonangl Member

    Re: Was asked to tell you what got my attn while I was in..

    Let me know if that stop off on the way down would be in MS and I can talk to my sweety about giving you and kiddos a place to crash for free. We don't have a lot of room, but y'all are more than welcome hun.
  40. Plups Member

    Re: Was asked to tell you what got my attn while I was in..

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