Wayback Machine doesn't include xenu.net?

Jeff Jacobsen · Jan 21, 2011

http://replay.waybackmachine.org/20110122024856/http://www.xenu.net

"Sorry. This URL has been excluded from the Wayback Machine."

I assume this is a leftover from the old copyright wars?

Anonymous · Jan 21, 2011

Many sites add code to prevent their pages appearing in the wayback machine...but does this mean it was not Andreas' decision?

Anonymous · Jan 21, 2011

Jeff Jacobsen said: ↑

http://replay.waybackmachine.org/20110122024856/http://www.xenu.net

"Sorry. This URL has been excluded from the Wayback Machine."

I assume this is a leftover from the old copyright wars?

Net archive silences Scientology critic | CNET | 24 September 2002

DeathHamster · Jan 22, 2011

Anonymous said: ↑

Many sites add code to prevent their pages appearing in the wayback machine...but does this mean it was not Andreas' decision?

It was not.

Some other sites (looking at you "Ontario Consultants on Religious Tolerance") block because they get embarrassed if you examine their site and its history carefully.

Anonymous · Jan 22, 2011

I actually saw something about this before and yes this does have to do with the old copyright wars. Scientology got xenu.net removed from the archives because they still had OTIII posted. Don't know why Andre never had the listings that were post OTIII re-listed. Might have been to much of a hassle on the archive.org site part or maybe Andre didn't know.

http://www.xenu.net/news/oc-news2002.html

Oct 1, 2002

"When it comes to the Internet's history, the real power-brokers are proving to be the lawyers - and especially those employed by the Church of Scientology. Last week the internet's biggest digital archive became that much smaller after Scientology lawyers insisted that it remove pages created by the organisation's critics. Those running the archive did so with barely a murmur, proving yet again how effective the church's legal threats can be in undermining free speech. The archive, known as the Wayback Machine, keeps snapshots of millions of old web pages - a remarkable resource available to anyone free of charge at web.archive.org. But last week, researchers looking for pages taken from anti-Scientology sites such as Xenu.net were told that they were no longer available 'per the request of the site owner.' In fact, the demand had come from the church alone, on the ground that copyrighted material contained within these sites put them in breach of the controversial US Digital Millennium Copyright Act.
"Under the Act, the church has 'asserted ownership' of work contained within these sites. Yet the result has been to remove entire websites, including pages that appear to be within the law. At Xenu.net, Andreas Heldal-Lund, a long-time opponent of the church, suggests that copyright law is merely a tool to censor critics. 'I'm the author, and I never asked that (the site) be removed,' he says. Another victim, the respected computer scientist Dave Touretzky, found all his research pages blocked from the archive thanks to some anti-Scientology articles. 'I don't exist,' he says. 'I've been erased from internet history. All because I dared to have some Scientology material on my website.'
"Faced with the threat of litigation from the Scientologists, the archive appears to have removed entire domains before taking detailed counsel of its own. After all, no non-profit body likes to risk offending such a determined litigator as the church. Even Google, the search engine, removed links to Xenu.net and similar sites last March, faced with similar wide-ranging copyright claims from the church's lawyers.
"In the Google case, the decision caused an outcry, and the company soon unblocked the links. No lawsuit has followed. Yet the church continues to put legal pressure on smaller websites, Internet service providers and even online booksellers to suppress dissent. And each time one of its targets succumbs, another blow is dealt to free debate."

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