What does Rathbun Want?

Discussion in 'St Petersburg Times expose' started by chrisanon, Jun 22, 2009.

  1. Anon-007 Member

    Re: What does Rathbun Want?

    The desert can be a desolate and unforgiving place.....

  2. Mutante Member

    Re: What does Rathbun Want?

    "The desert is wide and shovels are cheap."
  3. Snake Member

    Re: What does Rathbun Want?

    ^^ Everything this man says and more.

    I don't give a shit what he wants. I want to take down a nasty cult and what he's doing is hammering another nail into the coffin.

    Beyond the act of becoming AO's new trailer park butt buddy, I could care less.
  4. ultrapoet Member

    Re: What does Rathbun Want?

    The enemy of your enemy is not necessarily your friend. I'm glad he spoke out, but I'm still not trusting him an inch farther than I can throw him.
  5. Snake Member

    Re: What does Rathbun Want?

    You don't have to. He's not coming on WWP and going "where are the lulz guise lol"

    He has served the only purpose he really could. If he contributes more in the future in similar ways, great. Beyond that, w/e fuck that guy.
  6. Anonymous Member

    Re: What does Rathbun Want?

    I don't know what Rathbun wants or if he is going to get it. A year ago willershime talked about neutering the cult not shutting it down and I have always felt that there have been many who wanted to do the same thing.

    There are people who say that there are some good parts of the tech I disagree. because AFAIK the tech is basically one thing and you can't pick an choose parts of it. That does not mean that every thing a scientologist does is evil but if you accept one part of the tech you accept it all.

    Good actions are still part of the bad tech and the tech is to believe hubbard was an alien visitor. (more or less) and that he (LRH) knew more than the average person.

    As long as you have the belief that LRH was a "good guy" or even a "smart guy" you can't tell the difference from the good and the bad parts of the tech.

    LRH was a crazy bastard who could not tell what was real and what was not in addition to being a son of a bitch.

    If Charlie Manson ever helped an old lady across the street you would not point to it and say that some of the things he did where not bad. You would say that old lady is lucky she wasn't raped and murdered.
  7. chrisanon Member

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    auchraw, a mainstream city daily like the SP Times NEVER pays sources. It would be a scandal on a par with Jayson Blair at the NY Times or Stephen Glass at the New Republic if they paid these people.

    Paying interviewees is the reason people look down on tabloids like the National Enquirer. The Enquirer pays sources, and the fact that they do seriously impairs their reputation. For example, they can't be cited as a source in scholarly work, while they SP Times can.

    Despite the fact that the Enquirer's broken some very important national stories (Monica Lewinsky, John Edward's affair), and is often quite reliable, their willingness to pay sources keeps them in journalism's second or third tier.

    The journalistic reasoning is that people will say anything for money, so info can't be trusted if it's paid for.
  8. Anonymous Member

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    Can't find Rathbun's ESMB post - if someone could take a minute and ling it, that would be appreciated. TIA.
  9. mefree Member

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    This has to be considered.
  10. Mutante Member

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  11. Anonymous Member

    Re: What does Rathbun Want?

    Maybe, but I doubt the cult will survive the fall of Miscavige. They can't deal with much more chaos. And putting these guys in charge wouldn't change the fact we will probably continue this until the thing is well and truly gone. No more Freewinds. No more buildings in Hollywood. No more L. Ron Hubbard Way and no more running downtown Clearwater.

    Until that happens, I'm not stopping.
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  14. Anonymous Member

    Re: What does Rathbun Want?

    G'Kar: What do I want? The Centauri stripped my world. I want justice.
    Morden: But what do you want?
    G'Kar: To suck the marrow off their bones, and grind their skulls to powder.
    Morden: What do you want?
    G'Kar: To tear down their cities, blacken their sky, sow their ground with salt. To completely, utterly erase them.
    Morden: And then what?
    G'Kar: ...I don't know. As long as my home world's safety is guaranteed, I don't know that it matters.
  15. Re: What does Rathbun Want?

    O__O WANT.

    Well, except for the blue one. I don't eat blue food.
  16. Anonymous Member

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    No Blair was several made up stories over a long period of time about issues that more people cared more about.

    But getting in the newspaper is not usually something people are paid for. TMZ and entertainment news do pay sources for gossip but front page news wouldn't be something a newspaper would pay for.
  17. chrisanon Member

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    I didn't say Blair paid for sources. I used him as an example of a gigantic journalistic scandal.

    It's inaccurate to say that Blair made up stories. Blair plagiarized (which is how he got caught), invented quotes, published off-the-record info, and claimed datelines that weren't his. The stories, by and large, were quite real.
  18. Anonymous Member

    Re: What does Rathbun Want?

    Damn. You almost turned Anonymous against the enemies of CoS!

    But you are a genius, chrisanon. Only you can salvage this quarter of the galaxy and save mankind.
  19. chrisanon Member

    Re: What does Rathbun Want?

    Fuck off.
  20. Smurf Member

  21. Anonymous Member

    Re: What does Rathbun Want?

    So he 100% believes in the tech, and is setting up his own FZ spin-off run on a 'donations only' basis? I think this proves the sentiment of the majority when it comes to Rathbun's motives. He wants to be there for when the cult collapses, and take over the selling of false hopes and promises.

    If Marty is reading this, just take note that Anon is watching you. Same goes to you Rinder.
  22. Smurf Member

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    Nothing has really changed with the two. Mike Rinder refuses to appear on video unless he's paid for his services. Legitimate press like the SP Times won't do that.

    They are in the position to hammer on David Miscavige, but until the feds step in, or perhaps the FDLE re-opens the McPherson case, and forces them out of their shells, they are not going to change.

    Both want to step in when DM gets tossed out or....
  23. chrisanon Member

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    Who the hell would pay Rinder to be on video?!?

    I'm actually pretty shocked to hear this. Are there any videos of him floating around, or is this a wishful thinking price-list? Can you say how you found this out?

    OTOH, after the SP Times pieces maybe he should sit by the phone waiting for the National Enquirer to call. Maybe he should even call them.
  24. Anonymous Member

  25. JohnnyRUClear Member

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    We're talking about Rathbun and Miscavige on this site, not Rathburn and Miscavaige (whoever they are).

    {puts on giant dildo costume; dances around [strike]like[/strike] Richard Simmons}

    O, I'm such a gay little spelling Nazi, weeeeeeeeeeeee!

  26. whoever Member

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    I'm very interested in knowing more about this, too.
  27. TheLady Member

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    Highly unlikely he was paid, in fact, probably impossible. BUT they could have *had* something on him that was kept off-the-record.
  28. TheLady Member

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    Really, though, if he wants to be on WWP, he's here. There's far more he can do and the wise man knows that the full deck has not been dealt.
  29. whosit Member

    Re: What does Rathbun Want?

    JESUS H. (IS THAT HENRY?) CHRIST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

    WHY THE FUCK IS THIS THREAD EVEN STILL ALIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11


  30. Anonymous Member

    Re: What does Rathbun Want?

    NO U!

    Jayson Blair - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Also Lrn2get the point.

    Blair was a big story because he was reporting the top stories in the news for the NY Time not the top story in The Saint Pete times on a slow news day. Unless Tom Cruise, and John Trovolta both commit suicide by choking on a copy of Dianetics this story is going to stay below the fold in most papers unless there is nothing better to report. "Cults mistreat members" is not going to be a top story. "Scientology cult of Movie Stars gets V& " would be a big story.
  31. chrisanon Member

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    And your comments relate to newspapers' payment of sources how, exactly?

    Because that was the question auchraw asked.

    Or perhaps you have something to say about Marty Rathbun?
  32. Smurf Member

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    The SP Times doesn't pay for interviews. It becomes an ethical problem for them to do that. They DO pay for expenses related to doing the interviews and usually require receipts showing how the money was spent for tax-related purposes.

    I'm quite surprised that Tommy Davis hasn't publicly accused the SP Times of paying Rathbun, Rinder and the other two of doing the interviews for big $$$$.
  33. beef Member

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    So Rathburn audited Tom Cruise I heard. I wonder if he has a copy of his folder? It could be worth billions.

  34. JohnnyRUClear Member

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    Then you heard wrong. It was Rathbun.
  35. Samakain Member

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    What i suspect is going to happen when the dwarf falls is exactly what marty is trying to set up right now.

    When we take down the cult, the tech won't die, A thousand little warlords will all scrabble for the pie

    It will slink away like cockroaches when the lights go on.

    we will find them

    and crush them

    and go back to making our sandwitch.

    As to what to do with marty? well we have been saying it from the beinging.

    We do not forgive,
    We do not forget.

    Fuck this tard, He was an asshole and still is.
  36. whoever Member

    Re: What does Rathbun Want?

    I recognize and applaud your beating your head against this wall.
  37. Re: What does Rathbun Want?

    Anyone who wants to continue the "legacy" of Hubbard is a complete fool. How, after all he's been through, can he still buy into this horse shit.
  38. Anonymous Member

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    Rathbairn and Rhindar are both implicated which is obvious.
  39. Orderous Member

    Re: What does Rathbun Want?

    So I've been asking around a bit, various places, and gotten some answers. And the consensus reply seems to be; Neither Rathbun nor Rinder can or wants to take control of the CoS.
    A) They're satan in human form to most scientologists
    B) When the frothing midget goes, so does the CoS
    C) A few birdies have peeped into my ear about things Rathbun and Rinder have said themselves.

    Although the debate on Rathbun in particular being someone who can comfort the headless masses when the CoS does fall is still raging.
  40. Anonymous Member

    Re: What does Rathbun Want?

    1) The topic of my post quoted was from your response not auchraw's question

    2) My comment was made to try to prevent us (you in particular) from thinking things are more important than they really are. ie: Comparing this story to some one fabricating information about US terroists and the Iraq war, who also liked to grandstand and take credit for things he had nothing to do with and blew things out of proportion to make himself look more important.

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