willsmithscientology.com content thread? crockhat, not sure if you are still looking for help for content on this or not. I figured I would start a thread if you still wanted anons to post idea's for content. If so I was out an checking out the NVA site. They actually had a interesting press release regarding Study Tech. P.S. This thread is for work. Please keep the baaaaawwwww somewhere else. Yes I know some people don't think the Smith's are running a CULT indoctrination school. Some of us do.
re: willsmithscientology.com content thread? NVLA Educational Philosophy. Remember to Spiral Up. Don't Spiral Down.
re: willsmithscientology.com content thread? ^^"if a student is learning how to make a robot, he or she needs to see or touch the materials and computer right in front of him or her rather than just imagining how to make it." what kind of school would teach you how to make a robot with your imagination? i lol'd anyway, does anyone have the information on how many scilon teachers are there? I didn't get all that info before they took it off their site.
re: willsmithscientology.com content thread? 4 Scilon teachers. Also, this website, imo, is too tinfoily to benefit our cause what so ever.
re: willsmithscientology.com content thread? This is a baaaaaaaaaaaaawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww free zone please. So contribute or GTFO. Also: Learning How to Learn. What does that sound like? I wish I knew how to know. Looks like active recruitment of parents to me.
re: willsmithscientology.com content thread? Very informative article by Monica Pignotti former scio on mind control THE USE OF MIND CONTROL IN SCIENTOLOGY - HiddenMysteries ThE~Magazine
re: willsmithscientology.com content thread? "Though developed by L. Ron Hubbard, it is a secular course and not affiliated with the religion of Scientology," Not affiliated with scientology at all lol? If that school is a non profit do they have to tell how much they are kicking back to scientology organizations like ABLE or Applied Scholastics? interesting read on ABLE here http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2004/06/09/MNGO572ISD1.DTL In 1988, church members created the nonprofit Association for Better Living and Education, or ABLE, to oversee four secular programs: The Way to Happiness Foundation, promoting Hubbard's 21 "moral precepts"; Applied Scholastics, an education program; Criminon, a "life improvement" course for prison inmates; and Narconon. ABLE's purpose was to deliver Hubbard's ideas to the public, said Bob Adams, its senior vice president and a Scientologist. In 2001, ABLE reported assets of $20.6 million to the IRS, records show. Today, it occupies the elegant former Screen Actors Guild building in Hollywood, which it bought from the Church of Scientology for $2 million in 2000.
re: willsmithscientology.com content thread? "Parents are also welcome to take the Learning How to Learn course at the school and we encourage this as it demystifies what Study Technology is. Though developed by L. Ron Hubbard, it is a secular course and not affiliated with the religion of Scientology, just as the Montessori method, though developed by a devout Catholic, is not a way to teach religious concepts. If you have any questions, please ask any of the teachers or Dr. Jacquie." Dr. Jacquie? any info on this person? Anyone near there able to call and find out how much the parents would pay for that course or where they would take it?
re: willsmithscientology.com content thread? That's a very long article. I read part of it; might go back for the rest. Seems to be journalistically sound. Hmmm. Would someone locate the 21 precepts and compare them to this?
re: willsmithscientology.com content thread? OK - OP here. Rational questions to be incorporated or not. NVLA is actively and openly promoting Study Technology ON THEIR WEBSITE. Study Techonology is copyrighted LRH material. CST is a the holder of ALL copyrights. RTC is the corporation that LICENSE said copyrights. RTC is charged with making sure the TECH is pure. Will Smith and Jada say that they are picking and choosing what works and what doesn't. This leads to A COUPLE OF INTERESTING QUESTIONS: 1. Are they changing the copyrighted material? If so why is the RTC licensing the materials to squirrels? Goes against the entire charter of the RTC corporation. 2. WS and JPS said that they are NOT paying for the COPYRIGHTED material. WHY? The CoS does ZERO out of the goodness of their hearts. Either the Smiths are lying about not paying for the material or the cult is looking for pay back in another way (bodies walking through the door, free publicity, etc)
re: willsmithscientology.com content thread? hubbard was a dropout drunk junkie wife beating child kidnapper wannabe occultist master hypnotist pathological liar malignant narcissist megalomaniac paranoid asshole. perfect role model for the kiddies right?
Re: willsmithscientology.com content thread? I would use some of these infamous Hubbard quotes to try and make Mr. Smith, and some of his fans, think about the type of person and organization he is choosing to serve. Maybe something like: Has L. Ron Hubbard’s cult, Scientology, decided it’s time to give Tom Cruise a break from all the heavy lifting of being the main celebrity spokesperson for Scientology? Perhaps this quote from L. Ron Hubbard himself explains why they want Will Smith for the job… You shouldn't be scrubbing the floor on your hands and knees. Get yourself a nigger; that's what they're born for. –L. Ron Hubbard, in a letter to first wife, Polly Grubb Is Will Smith becoming a representative for a racist and his racist cult? Read some more of these L. Ron Hubbard quotes and decide for yourself. But they served with great enthusiasm. Those people sure can work. The African sure can work. That's one thing nobody has ever quite noticed about them. They are very hard-working people. –L. Ron Hubbard, "About Rhodesia", lecture given on 19 July 1966 … tremendous labour supply in the Bantu, the Mshombe, the Matabele, these people are very hard-working people and under proper direction are quite productive. … and here is this perfectly valid labour supply — the African, who at this time is not being well utilised at all; … –L. Ron Hubbard, Conference with the Guardian, 18 July 1966 A "black South African's" withholds read not only on the needle [of the E-meter] alone but on the Tone Arm [sensitivity adjustment] as well. –L. Ron Hubbard, E-Meter Essentials, section I: "Meter Oddities", 1988 (pg. 24) The insanity rate per capita in South Africa is appalling. …it is easily seen that a primary requisite in any programme of the rehabilitation of the Bantu in South Africa would be mental health… –L. Ron Hubbard, HCOB April 1960, "The Scientific Treatment of the Insane" The South African native is probably the one impossible person to train in the entire world — he is probably impossible by any human standard. –L. Ron Hubbard, PAB No. 119, 1 September 1957, as published in Level 0 PABS (c.1968, The American St. Hill Organization). They took people who were totally dedicated to certain tribal procedures … and said, "You're free." And they said, "Free. Free? Free. Ah! You mean there's no police anymore." Boom! Boom! –L. Ron Hubbard, State of Man Congress, Opening lecture, 1 January 1960. …the African tribesman, with his complete contempt for truth and his emphasis on brutality and savagery for others but not for himself, is a no-civilization. –L. Ron Hubbard, Scientology: The Fundamentals of Thought, Bridge Publications: Los Angeles, 1997. As long as a white foreman is there, they will prevent soil erosion; but the moment that a white foreman turns his back — boo! There goes the whole program. And you finally get up to the point of where he's [native] supposed to take care of something, a lesson which has never been taught to the native of South Africa. –L. Ron Hubbard, 15th ACC (Power of Simplicity) lecture "Education: Point of Agreement", 30 Oct 1956. Have you ever slept with a member of a race of another color? Have you ever committed culpable homicide? Have you ever bombed anything? Have you ever murdered anyone? Have you ever kidnapped anyone? –L. Ron Hubbard, HCOPL 7 April 1961, "Johannesburg Security Check" Because the one thing — the very, very commercial little culture the Bantu has … the idea of commerce and money and that sort of thing is very deeply ingrained in these people. –L. Ron Hubbard, SHSBC, "Errors in Time", 18 July 1963 [Y]ou'll find in Africans a fantastic amount of heavy space opera and so on, going on … which makes the colored African very, very interesting to process because he doesn't know why he goes through all these dances … and why he feels so barbarous …. –L. Ron Hubbard, 1st Melbourne ACC, lecture "Principal Incidents on the Track", 27 November 1959. …the Zulu is only outside the bars of a madhouse because there are no madhouses provided by his tribe. … primitives are far more aberrated than civilized peoples. Their savageness, their unprogressiveness, their incidence of illness … –L. Ron Hubbard, Dianetics: The Modern Science of Mental Health, Bridge Publications, Los Angeles, 1995. For instance, my boy Jamble … I used to tell him "yes, I know Jamble — you're a good boy even though you do drink and smoke dacca and gamble — that has nothing to do with me, you're still a good boy" and you know he came way up tone arm. I noticed he drank less and I think he stopped smoking dacca entirely but he didn't stop gambling because Master used to give him a pound to go out to the race track and lose. –L. Ron Hubbard, Conference with the Guardian, 18 July 1966 Illiterate cultures do not survive and they are not very high. The natives of the tribe of the Bugga Bugga Booga Boogas down in Lower Bugga Wugga Booga Woog are mostly no longer with us, or they are around waving red flags today and revolting against their central government. –L. Ron Hubbard, The Study Tapes, "Study: Evaluation and Information", lecture given on 11 August 1964 And they didn't learn fast. Their literacy was not up to absorbing culture rapidly. –L. Ron Hubbard, The Study Tapes, "Study: Evaluation and Information", lecture given on 11 August 1964 They've been very happily down amongst the bong-bong trees, you know, dancing up and down amongst the bong-bong trees, and the highest level of their interest and so forth was their own back yard. –L. Ron Hubbard, The Study Tapes, "Study: Evaluation and Information", lecture given on 11 August 1964
Re: willsmithscientology.com content thread? Oh - and don't forget this gem... Actually, have you ever noticed how a Negro, in particular down south, where they're pretty close to the soil, personifies MEST? The gatepost and the wagon and the whip and anything around there—a hat. They talk to them, you know. "What'sa mattuh wi' you hat?" They imbue them with personality. –L. Ron Hubbard, Therapy section of Technique 80 ("Route to Infinity" tapes), Part I, a lecture given on 21 May 1952
Re: willsmithscientology.com content thread? "Teachers are the foundation of our school: their experience, dedication and contribution are to be respected at every level." that would not sound near as spooky if you didn't know that the teachers (all or most of the teachers?) there were scientologists. these kids will not be allowed to question what they are learning, only go back and read it again and again and again because they must have a misunderstood word o.0
Re: willsmithscientology.com content thread? hang em with their own words [mod]Removed broken youtube link[/mod]
Re: willsmithscientology.com content thread? If you go with the racist Hubbard quotes - you could also stick in a few pictures relevant to the quotes...example: For instance, my boy Jamble … I used to tell him "yes, I know Jamble — you're a good boy even though you do drink and smoke dacca and gamble — that has nothing to do with me, you're still a good boy" and you know he came way up tone arm. I noticed he drank less and I think he stopped smoking dacca entirely but he didn't stop gambling because Master used to give him a pound to go out to the race track and lose. –L. Ron Hubbard, Conference with the Guardian, 18 July 1966
Re: willsmithscientology.com content thread? So teachers shouldn't be respected just because they happen to be scientologists? Interesting. Oh and I know you think that they just can't help but try to indoctrinate people. But you know, maybe you should give them a chance to do their job before you decide to round up a lynch mob. Once again, you're walking right along the edge of bigotry.
Re: willsmithscientology.com content thread? HUH??? Would YOU send your kids to .....ahhh fuck it...Nevermind
Re: willsmithscientology.com content thread? I probably wouldn't send my kids there because I think study tech is a bogus basis for pedagogy. However I wouldn't care if one of my kid's teachers was a scientologist- so long as that teacher was certified of course. The fact that you would be upset by that speaks volumes.
Re: willsmithscientology.com content thread? I'm becoming a certified teacher myself. I'm one year away from my paper. I can tell you the whole process is a joke. Teaching is the job by default in the humanities for those who can't be bothered with effort of any kind. I would never let my children to the care of at least 85% of my peers and I would keep a close watch on the remaining few. Don't give too much credit to papers, especially in humanities. It means next to jack shit.
Re: willsmithscientology.com content thread? Thanks Herro for ignoring the obvious. Make sure that this site has absolutely NOTHING to do with nonsense or conjecture. Hang em with their own words. There is more than enough [mod]This is an Active Project thread. Please avoid random youtubes/images/etc to illustrate your point unless necessary.[/mod]
Re: willsmithscientology.com content thread? Usually I would agree with this. It doesn't matter what religion a person is as long as they stay professional and are qualified. The sad problem with Scientologists is 9 times out of 10 they are going to be pushing their beliefs if they are in a situation that allows it. The fact one or two (I can't remember the exact count) admitted to pushing for more Scientology books at the NVA school is a sign of that. It's just not in the culture of Scientology to be passive when you are in a situation like that. I'm not saying at all that ALL Scientologists are like that, but I would be really considered if my child was being taught by one. I've heard from too many friends growing up of teachers who happen to be Scientologists, trying to get their students to attend Scientology-oriented events or use a Scientology resource. This may come off sounding a tad discriminatory, but it's its just my own life experience. I wouldn't like a teacher, of any faith, who might be trying to push down their student's minds, their own beliefs. Scientologists are the only ones that at least I'd be paying close attention to with my parents.
Re: willsmithscientology.com content thread? lol @ before i decide to round up a lynch mob IDK why you are here since you never answer when I ask you but I am here because scientology is what i consider a dangerous cult. I definitely would NOT want a member of a dangerous cult that is well known for its sickening recruiting methods teaching my children. and lol @ give them a chance to do their job. if you've been paying attention maybe you know that a scientologists job first and foremost seems to be to Keep Scientology Working, not worrying about wog children who are beneath them.
Re: willsmithscientology.com content thread? Hi all, sorry for delays etc. Am reading PMs now etc. I am definitely all up for contributions. I've written some of the basic site content now and it'll be up shortly (will notify in this thread). All comments and contributions welcome. The basic format is an open letter to Will Smith, that consists of a series of questions. Here's one example question (don't have actual content with me now, am at work, so I 'mocked this up', heh): (The text has liberal links to appropriate things, like Lisa McPherson data, etc.) Also, although not as important at this stage, it would be good to find a designfag who wants to help make it look good. I can code html and fiddle with css etc., but I'm not great at giving it a really good look (e.g. like Who Is David Miscavige?, which looks great!) So, any designers/graphics artists feel like helping?
Re: willsmithscientology.com content thread? Thanks for that, it's just what we need. I was about to start a thread myself, but found yours. Thanks! Thanks everyone for some of yer lings/texts so far - there is some fucking awesome stuff there.
Re: willsmithscientology.com content thread? Meine Herro, this is a project thread for the website. Can you please derail elsewhere. If you want to discuss this stuff, feel free to start a new thread. Just quit fagging up this one.
Re: willsmithscientology.com content thread? That is a good point. I still wouldn't rush to judgment because it just wouldn't be fair to the person and if he or she really was a good teacher it would be silly to yank my kid from the class. However it would also be foolish to not recognize the push to proselytize that runs throughout scientology doctrine. I would want my kids to tell me immediately if this teacher was trying to introduce any kind of scientology into the classroom and if that happened I would go into full on bitchy parent mode. But don't forget that scientology is hardly the only religion that calls upon it's members to go out and try and convert as many people as possible. For instance, many different sects of Christianity stress the important of "spreading the wod of Christ." That doesn't mean those people are incapable of conducting themselves in a professional manner.
Re: willsmithscientology.com content thread? This was more or less already posted in other words... this is also from their site( hard to find on their site) and it is broken down smaller into the three principles of their study tech, which may make it easier for you to use. "Study Technology - An educational model developed by L.R. Hubbard, study technology focuses on three principles. First is the use of “mass” (manipulatives and hands-on experiences) to foster understanding – children need to see and feel what they are learning about. Second is the attention to the “gradient,” which ensures sure students master one level before moving on to the next. Third is the “misunderstood word,” in which students master word definitions and are taught not to read past words they don’t know the meanings of in order to understand completely what they are reading and learning. NVLA uses study technology as an umbrella methodology woven through the subjects
Re: willsmithscientology.com content thread? Dr Jacquie was the school director, a non-scientologist. When anon's met with the faculty, she was very adamant about not allowing this school to turn into a scilon recruitment center, and fwiw I believe that she honestly felt that way. I am still awaiting confirmation, but it appears that she has left the school. I hope to know more soon. I believe the ratio of scilon to non scilon teachers has increased beyond the '4' mentioned by Snake above. Again, I hope to have confirmation on this soon, so for now please take this as speculative.
Re: willsmithscientology.com content thread? BOLLOCKS. can do sod all on the site until my ISP at home fixes my broadband which has been down for days now.... rassenfrassen bollox.
Re: willsmithscientology.com content thread? So you are saying scientology is a religion? and it acts just like other religions? Scientology tries to trick kids and teenagers and adults into signing a billion year contract and joining their sea org. The sea org in case you don't know Herro is where people can make around $50 a week while working shit jobs 80-100 hours a week. Oh, and if those sea org members piss someone off or start to doubt scientology (which is a crime! in scientology) they can and will be sent to the RPF to work for less pay, more hours and shittier jobs.
Re: willsmithscientology.com content thread? Yes scientology is a religion. Does it act just like other religions? Kind of a hard question to answer seeing as religions don't all act alike. In many ways scientology is just like other, more mainstream religions. And I am well aware of what the sea org is. Just because scientology does fucked up shit doesn't mean it isn't a religion and it doesn't mean that all scientologists are fucked up people. Take the recent scandal of pedophile priests within the Catholic Church. Does this mean that all Catholics are pedophiles? As it pertains to this topic, the concern is with whether or not scientologist teachers would try to recruit kids into scientology. I just think it's inappropriate to assume that they would simply because their religious beliefs call on them to do so. Many other faiths call on their followers to spread their faith. Yet those people manage to work teaching jobs. So a scientologist deserves the same fair treatment as any other person wanting to be a teacher.
Re: willsmithscientology.com content thread? Both of you need to stop this nonsense. fitch2000: Stop nitpicking and grow a thicker skin Herro: Stop responding to this bullshit and feeding (being?) the troll. I don't give 2 fucks how right either of you think you are, the point is that you are allowing conversations to be dragged offtopic with your inane shit.
