Lukewarm results? I think you are moving the goal posts. My point was, before the “integrative medicine” movement, people were using science to look at variables that help patients to make lifestyle changes in their own best interests. Lots of people in several scientific fields. So no fair for the integrators to claim ownership of this stuff. What I see from the integrators is shit evidence and impressive marketing. For example Dean Ornish and his program of 19 things that will prevent cancer if you do them all, which nobody does. He has so many drop outs and confounds he can make his data say anything. And when this is pointed out to him, he is like, fuck off I am a big cheese. Then he gets invited by Tom Harkin to Congress to help set national health care policy. That’s the “impressive results” those guys bring. Integrative medicine’s research base is NCCAM. Guess how many awesome therapies that multibillion dollar institution has given to humankind.