WSB-TV: State investigates Narconon Georgia after Channel 2 reveals new evidence

Discussion in 'Narconon' started by Anonymous, Oct 2, 2012.

  1. Missfit Member

    If I had 30k laying around I would 100% do an insider investigation and go to the CON for treatment. Anyone wanna fund it? ha, I'm kidding.....sort of :cool:
  2. Anonymous Member

    Bad idea unless you have espionage/acting training. It's harder to convincingly play a role 24/7 than most people think.
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  3. Missfit Member

    Oh I know, If I was being serious I wouldn't have said it as myself.
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  4. Anonymous Member

    The commissioner from the Department of Community Health says "Licensing doesn't regulate fraud" in response to Mr. Combs questioning the whole inpatient vs. outpatient thing.

    I don't know whether I should /facepalm or cry. Somebody in ATL needs to verbally bitchslap that fool.
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  5. snippy Member

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  6. Anonymous Member

    The question then is: who does?
  7. Anonymous Member

    No, but it sure as hell is intended to prevent it.

  8. fishypants Moderator

    ^ good point.
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  9. Anonymous Member

    You can always join staff of the Narconon. They are desperate for people. Somebody from WWP almost joined the one in New England. They were offering him a desk job - selling Narconon packages to people.
  10. Anonymous Member

    Just to explain what's happening here - Narcnon Israel does not exist. No money, no license. So they approach families of drug addicts and tell them - you can help your son to kick the habit at home. No rehab is needed. All you need is to learn touch assists.
    This particular footage is interesting, because it is clear that the person behind the camera who is directing the woman is a Jewish Israeli, while the patient is Palestinian (or Palestinian Israeli). It is known that Scientology was having huge difficulties reaching out to Arabs in Israel and Palestine, so I guess though "Narconon" they can score a few points (the Arab population is quite plagued with drug use over there).
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  11. eddieVroom Member

    Easier and cheaper to equip someone already starting the program to record and smuggle out the data.
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  12. Quentinanon Member

    BTW, touch assists are 100% bullshit.
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  13. Sonichu Moderator

    I like the whole, "Narconon Employee" route better, as it's sure to make OSA paranoid.

    Sec Checks all around!
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  14. Missfit Member

    But then I would be having to sell the bullshit and perpetuate the insanity and I just can't, even if for the greater good. The CON did offer Cat Marnell from over at Vice all expenses paid rehab experience....I would pay lots of money to hear her reaction. I should email her.
  15. The Wrong Guy Member

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  16. Anonymous Member

    What makes you think we don't already have someone inside?
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  17. Sonichu Moderator

    Oh there are plenty of people on the inside.that report to us. I just mean talking about it again now, to help fuel the paranoia. Remember, Who is ethicstrouble?
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  18. Anonymous Member

    Not to mention who feeds David and Collin with all those nice docs?
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  19. Anonymous Member

    Seem to be able to obtain docs & intel from every NarCONon on the planet.

    OSA can't do shit to stop it.

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  20. patriot75 Member

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  21. Anonymous Member

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    I agree, but it seems that their investigation happened mighty quickly after the news story. It took a 3rd death in less than a year for Oklahoma to investigate criminally. Everyone knows that there have been 7 to date so why weren't the first six investigated even if it was just to be on the SAFE side? Although I do understand that all of the things you mentioned seem like they could've definitely spurred things along in Georgia, the comparison was just my first reaction because I wish to God that every one of those lives had been saved.
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  23. eddieVroom Member

    edit: what part of dealing on site do we have an M/U on?..
  24. Anonymous Member

    It's true story. When the dude called, they were all over him, because they were so understaffed. At the end he could not be bothered. But it's not that difficult to get a job with Narconon, so it seems. I mean they pay very little, nobody wants to work for them, and they constantly use abusive language against workers. That's why their only employees are former addicts, graduates from their program. So before they'll hire you, they will probably put you on the cans, but here is the thing - cans don't work on non-believers. They tried their stupid pinch test on me and the needle did NOTHING. So if you're bored enough - Narconon can use a few employees. And I heard Narconon parties are da bomb.
  25. Anonymous Member

    Sec checks all around, won't out our if they were to do butt-checks all around, that would be a different story. It's amazing how small recorders are these days, and where you can put them!

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  26. Anonymous Member

    Agent Anonymous you are out of line in so candidly giving away state secrets. Report to the Marcab Mothership on planet Omicron Phi immediately for punitive action. That is all.
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  27. Sonichu Moderator

    And hopefully not the vitamin bomb type. Those aren't any fun.

    But seriously, Narconon parties have plenty of drugs at them, so you are guaranteed an out of body experience.
  28. Anonymous Member

    You are right, Oh Great One, I was out of line..........

    Does this mean my bonuses are in danger????

    Please don't tell my generous sponsers.......

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  29. Anonymous Member


    I'm sorry....but as a small businessman, I have to jump in here to advise all anons........

    You can safely record all conversations, without fear of being caught, if you use.........


    It's virtually undetectable.

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  30. patriot75 Member

    sorry for the double post
    This just pisses me off...
    :mad: :eek::mad::eek:

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  31. Intelligence Member

    Published on Oct 3, 2012 by Intelligenceplus
    October 3, 2012 - Lucas Catton told Flesicher he knows the Narconon drug treatment program better than almost anyone. He went through it as a student, and then rose to be become president of the Flagship Arrowhead facility in Oklahoma. "Is it what it pretends to be? Absolutely not," said Catton. "Narconon is, essentially it is Scientology."

    Published on Oct 3, 2012 by Intelligenceplus
    October 3, 2012 -
    Channel 2 Action News has already noticed a change to Narconon International's website since an investigation exposed the organization advertising its Georgia program as a long-term residential facility. Now the wording has been altered and does not indicate which type of facility it is.

    Cook said he would consider asking legislators to include drug rehab facilities in last year's expansion of Georgia law toughening regulations on nursing homes.

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  32. Intelligence Member

    :) - Indeed :)

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  33. Missfit Member

    "That is not a governing body for me." In the next breath " That is my church.."

    ARE YOU FUCKING MENTAL? Wait, I answered my own question.
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  34. Anonymous Member

    To be fair, I think Mary Reiser was saying she turned to her "church" for personal ethical advice, not for orders. However, who writes up a detailed report about shit happening at their job for their pastor to review?
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  35. Missfit Member

    Wait a second, if he is in a treatment program, his files are to remain between the treatment program, the law officers, and the if she was turning to her church for moral advice, why did she name these people specifically and give lots of details about them and their cases? Now there is something to ponder.
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  36. jensting Member

    (just pondering out loud...)

    Well, since Reiser can't talk about the specific case to the media because of patient confidentiality, does that mean that the entity she does talk to, the criminal organisation known as the "church" of $cientology, is part of the "treatment" given to the patient? How many categories of entities are there: Those who are treated (the patient), those who do the treating (the doctor etc) and the general public (which does not have right to know anything). Right? So, in which category does the Co$ fall?
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  37. Missfit Member

    My point exactly. IANAL but confidential information being shared means that either she A. broke confidence or B. Scientology is a direct link to supervising this case, if not the entire facility.

    A. Would mean she personally could be sued. B. would mean...well....I think you know :D
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  38. Anonymous Member

    If you are discussing an individual's medical issues with an outside party - sounds like a HIPAA violation to me.

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  39. Anonymous Member


    How To File a Complaint

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    ANYONE CAN FILE! - Anyone can file a complaint alleging a violation of the Privacy or Security Rule. We recommend that you use the OCR Health Information Privacy Complaint Form Package. You can also request a copy of this form from an OCR regional office. If you need help filing a complaint or have a question about the complaint or consent forms, please e-mail OCR at

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