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Yvonne and Ken Schick Leave Organized Scientology

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  1. Anonymous Member

    Yvonne and Ken Schick Leave Organized Scientology

    Mods, please merge or delete if this has been posted somewhere else. I searched and found nothing. Looks like they're kissing Mahty's ass, but I love the splintering.

    From an email leak:

    From: YSCHICK@aol.com
    To: yschick@aol.com
    Subject: from Ken and Yvonne
    Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2011 20:29:27 EST



    Dear Friends,
    “For a thetan there are two very essential rights: One is the right to his
    own sanity, and the other is the right to leave a game.” LRH, PDC, Dec
    3rd1952
    Ken and Yvonne Schick hereby announce that we are withdrawing our support
    and leaving the organization of the Church of Scientology.
    We know that we have both benefited from auditing and training we have
    received. We respect L. Ron Hubbard and believe that his intention to help
    his fellow man was sincere. We still consider ourselves Scientologists in
    that our spiritual beliefs about the nature of man and relationship with his
    fellow man and the universe are consistent with the principles of
    Scientology. Furthermore, we will continue the application of
    Scientology in our
    daily lives.
    We know that the staffs at all the orgs are filled with very caring, very
    dedicated individuals who would do anything to help their fellow man.
    Some of you receiving this are our closest friends in the world with whom
    we have shared play time, work, the ups and downs and joys of life. We
    realize that this decision will mean the end of our friendship
    with some. We
    will let you decide if that is your own determinism or one enforced upon
    you by others.
    All of that said, we can no longer support what we feel the organization
    has become under the leadership of David Miscavige. We feel that LRH started
    a church for the purpose of bringing spiritual freedom to man and that Mr.
    Miscavige has morphed it into something else entirely that appears to be
    mostly about money and his personal aggrandizement. We have each
    personally experienced the “forbidden cognition”: that our
    church is declining,
    that there is an SP behind that decline, and that the SP is David Miscavige.
    There has been no single incident or source that brought us to this point.
    Rather it has been years of personal experiences along with observation
    of events and data that finally started coming together. For most of the
    last 20 years, any doubts or reservations we had were categorized as
    something that would get handled eventually. We began to violate
    our own sense
    of personal decency and core values in order to be “on board”,
    “KSW-in”,
    members of the team.
    More recently, we decided we must resolve our doubt and our evaluation led
    us to conclude that Miscavige has grossly altered LRH tech, has focused
    the largest percentage of the activity of the group on fundraising in one
    form or another, is intent on milking every dime out of every member, and
    (quite frankly) has gone psychotic. For any of you who want to
    know more about
    how we came to the decision, we suggest you think for yourself and look for
    yourself starting with the websites that report information Mr. Miscavige
    does not want you to have. We were especially moved by the letter written
    by OT VIII Luis Garcia. He did a very thorough job of documenting the
    exact points that were there for us. We recommend reading Luis’
    letter; _A
    Letter From Garcia_
    (http://markrathbun.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/a-letter-from-garcia.pdf) .
    We also recommend: _Friends of LRH_
    (You are among friends) , _Leaving Scientology_
    (Leaving Scientology) , and _Marty Rathbun's
    blog_ (Moving On Up a Little Higher | Mark "Marty" Rathbun's Place) .
    Our decision is made. We do not welcome any handling from anyone who
    might feel so inclined or be so directed. If anyone shows up at our home
    unannounced and uninvited, we will assume it can only be a
    “mission” and you
    will be asked to leave with no further discussion. That said, we are not
    cutting our communication lines or disconnecting from anyone who
    wants to call
    us friend.
    We do not know if retaliation will be unleashed against us. One factor
    that motivated us was the malicious attacks we saw against people who decided
    to leave the group. Perhaps you will be told how very “evil” we are.
    Perhaps information we gave in session or to an MAA assuming confidentially
    will be broadcast. Ask yourself, “What kind of church does this?”
    To those of you who already know this just is not what LRH intended, we
    hope that our leap will give you courage to do the same for your own peace of
    mind.
    To those of you who want to leave but feel trapped by family and business
    relationships, our hearts go out to you. Keep looking, stay true to your
    personal integrity, and you will find a way.
    To those of you who remain loyal to Miscavige’s org, we ask that you
    simply LOOK. Just like LRH advised us. Look at the real
    results, not the PR.
    Look at the affects being created in the general public. It has been a
    downhill ride since that man took over LRH’s church.
    We are grateful to the bold men and women who have had the courage to
    leave the church run by Miscavige and then speak out publicly so
    that the truth
    is told. We appreciate that there are committed individuals who want to
    keep alive LRH’s purpose and technology for helping others.
    We wish all of you the brightest of New Year’s with all of the spiritual
    freedom you have dreamed of for the ages. “Flourish and
    prosper.” LRH, The
    Way to Happiness.
    Sincerely, Ken and Yvonne Schick
    OT VII completion and OT VIII
  2. Re: Yvonne and Ken Schick Leave Organized Scientology

    Good news, but until she denounces L Ron and his fail tech, I'm still not voting for her! lol
  3. Legion Member

    Re: Yvonne and Ken Schick Leave Organized Scientology

    heh this puts a smile on my face for the day, poor davey must be hitting the scotch allready
  4. Legion Member

    Re: Yvonne and Ken Schick Leave Organized Scientology

    Yeah at least it's a start though. Small. Baby. Steps.
  5. TinyDancer Member

    I thoroughly approve.

    That's a very nice bit of communication there.

    PS. Where are they from?
  6. Anonymous Member

  7. Ann O'Nymous Member

    Re: Yvonne and Ken Schick Leave Organized Scientology

    Nice. At least half-nice.
  8. TinyDancer Member

  9. AuntAnonymous Member

    Re: Yvonne and Ken Schick Leave Organized Scientology

    This is good is she broadcasted her letter far and wide. (Can't imagine what kind of mailing list a politician would have.)
  10. Anonymous Member

    Re: Yvonne and Ken Schick Leave Organized Scientology

    Yaaaah, more OTs leaving the Church of Scientology.

    It's a step in the right direction. They probably have years of un-brainwashing to get through now. The Internet can help them with that.
  11. JohnnyRUClear Member

    Re: Yvonne and Ken Schick Leave Organized Scientology

    Yeah, because elRong is all about liberty. Good call.
  12. Anonymous Member

    Re: Yvonne and Ken Schick Leave Organized Scientology

    I don't know if it was obvious, but I am not surprised when I find out scilons are also Libertarians. They seem to have the same lack of empathy and understanding of people less well off in the world.
  13. blank Member

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  14. Anonymous Member

    Re: Yvonne and Ken Schick Leave Organized Scientology

    OP here. Heard from my leaker that Yvonne and Ken are pretty much financially "sucked dry".
  15. Anonymous Member

    Re: Yvonne and Ken Schick Leave Organized Scientology

    drip.. drip..drip..
  16. lambear Member

    Re: Yvonne and Ken Schick Leave Organized Scientology

    They are from Austin, TX
  17. Anonymous Member

    Re: Yvonne and Ken Schick Leave Organized Scientology

    wow
  18. Anonymous Member

    Re: Yvonne and Ken Schick Leave Organized Scientology

    howsocialgro.jpg

    The following research study is relevant.

    It describes a mathematical model of how unstable groups (such as the group of people who are clients of the Scientology enterprise) split up into two new groups.

    Mathematical model shows how groups split into factions
  19. JohnnyRUClear Member

    Re: Yvonne and Ken Schick Leave Organized Scientology

    lolwut

    Most of the libertarians I know are poor, and lack neither empathy nor understanding. I suppose YMMV.

    The real reason they left?
  20. Shinythings Member

    Re: Yvonne and Ken Schick Leave Organized Scientology

    I remember seeing some similar redaction quite recently. Is this study tech in action, or do the scientologists have some special meaning for this word?
  21. Zak McKracken Member

    Re: Yvonne and Ken Schick Leave Organized Scientology

    I at least half-agree.
  22. Re: Yvonne and Ken Schick Leave Organized Scientology

    Good for them. That is the best I can say for them.

    When I was on staff and LRH was still alive; we were always looking for the the SP who was holding our shitty org down. It's the "tech" that says it is always an SP.

    I've now read too many of these LRH was awesome and Miscavige is the reason why. I am pretty sure it wouldn't matter who was in charge after LRH. These OT's would still blame the head of Scientology and laud dead LRH as a saint no matter who was in charge.

    Hubbard wrote a policy letter or bulletin (not sure which) called The Why Is God. In reality; the "why" is Ron.
  23. RolandRB Member

    Re: Yvonne and Ken Schick Leave Organized Scientology

    Then maybe they were kicked out rather than chose to leave. The Church doesn't want old people with no money. They are down-stats.
  24. pedrofcuk Member

    Re: Yvonne and Ken Schick Leave Organized Scientology

    Nice, another two leave the cult. Scientology cult members are being told that people are NOT leaving when they ask questions and yet the evidence is enormous and growing. In the Metro today was an article on Paul Haggis saying again that he had left the cult which I will scan and post at the first available opportunity.
    They are also spoon-fed the cyber terrorist criminal line about anons and believe every word.
    I garnered this info from my scilon bro who attended my late uncle's funeral yesterday. I was told to come to my senses and stop associating with an international terrorist criminal group and that my only terminal is the Continental Justice Chief, this was in response to my "good morning."
  25. xenubarb Member

    Re: Yvonne and Ken Schick Leave Organized Scientology

    Looks like mitosis to me...
  26. pedrofcuk Member

    Re: Yvonne and Ken Schick Leave Organized Scientology

    zz
  27. pedrofcuk Member

    Re: Yvonne and Ken Schick Leave Organized Scientology

    What a great slogan,

    THE WHY IS RON!

    :D
  28. Anonymous Member

    Re: Yvonne and Ken Schick Leave Organized Scientology

    All that time, the SP was YOU!

    If you'd been paying attention to the Tech, you would have realized this earlier
    and done amends to handle it. Now Tech is failing everywhere, on account of your missed withhelds and unhandled flaps. I'll bet you don't even feel remorse for your crimes.

    Actually, your being PTS to David Miscavige is the main thing keeping him from case gain and clearing the planet. Stop suppressing COB! Why would you blame Hubbard for COB's short-comings? (Have you stopped beating your staff yet?)

    The Ron is gone.
    The "why" is thy.
  29. Anonymous Member

    Re: Yvonne and Ken Schick Leave Organized Scientology

    points represent people. A red line shows an antagonistic relationship between two people and a green line a friendly one.
  30. Re: Yvonne and Ken Schick Leave Organized Scientology

    I don't refer to it as a staff.
  31. Anonymous Member

    Re: Yvonne and Ken Schick Leave Organized Scientology

    Thanks for the inside info and update.
    What you describe happening at your uncle's funeral is pretty messed up.

    The Scientology enterprise is very successful at instilling all sorts of phobias and hate into its clients. I suppose that once they succeed at getting someone to have one irrational fear, they can use the threat of that fear to instill other phobias.

    I'm sorry this happened to you, it's awful.
  32. Ann O'Nymous Member

    Re: Yvonne and Ken Schick Leave Organized Scientology

    This model, as any model, relies on hypotheses that are too simple to fit any real world situations. Interesting, though.
  33. TinyDancer Member

    Re: Yvonne and Ken Schick Leave Organized Scientology

    Well, clearly you said "good morning" in a terroristic tone of voice.

    By the way, Citizens for an Alternative Tax System (CATS) - see Yvonne's bio above - is a CoS front.

    Sauce: http://www.xenu-directory.net/news/images/thecompiler-1991-43.pdf (Psychiatric Times, June 1991, at page 7 of 7)
  34. Don Carlo Member

    Re: Yvonne and Ken Schick Leave Organized Scientology

    CATS is inactive. "Citizens for an Alternative Tax System" was the CoS front working against the IRS, until the IRS caved and signed the Secret Agreement in 1993, giving extremely favorable tax treatment of CoS.
  35. anonamus Member

    Re: Yvonne and Ken Schick Leave Organized Scientology

    Operation Clambake Message Board • View topic - The Data Series

  36. Rockyj Member

    Re: Yvonne and Ken Schick Leave Organized Scientology

    Very interesting from same source.

  37. Anonymous Member

    Re: Yvonne and Ken Schick Leave Organized Scientology

    "Having forgotten to keep his credit cards at home, the Scientologist starves the following decade and when asked WHY he is starving says it is the IAS, that he is out ethics or that he failed to sacrifice his first born child to the Sea Orgres. In short, unable to think, he says "The Why is Anonymous."

    fixd
  38. Anonymous Member

    Re: Yvonne and Ken Schick Leave Organized Scientology

    OK, now I get it! Ron used to get his flaps handled (probably by a boytoy) so they didn't miss being withheld which got him off so everything was OK then.

    flaps handled = happy ending
  39. TinyDancer Member

    Re: Yvonne and Ken Schick Leave Organized Scientology

    Hi Don Carlo!

    I'd like to think it is defunct. Yvonne still refers to it on her bio page (2008-2009):

  40. Ann O'Nymous Member

    Re: Yvonne and Ken Schick Leave Organized Scientology

    My emphasis.

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